The Gold Ring

[rose]

Thank you, Deuem,

The transform that happened between frames 5 & 11 is interesting to see. If the power supply was constant, then it appears as if the lifter "shifted gears"  at that point.

rose

ETA: Perhaps you would have more comments, D. if you posted your results in the EG thread. Also, forgive me if I missed it, but where and what is Series 1?

[Mikado]

Well, a big "thank you" Rose, I guess I did this just for you. I am glad at least one person read it. The rest seem to be very busy.

It is Ok, we are moving on and up.

Deuem

What needs to be done further is that a chart needs to be made showing the relationships of Voltage vs. Height for a fixed device.

Being a fixed device certain variables remain constant and a correlation between the above can be easily seen.

Just my two cents,

Mikado

[rose]

Thank you, Mikado, for coming back to this topic.

Also Deuem, though I thought you said the rate of climb was constant,  but it appears to slow down toward the end.  It looks like the peak performance came between 11-15. Did I misread you?

rose

[Linda Brown]

Rose,

I thought that you would appreciate this. During one of those very early tests ( 1955) the unit leapt to the end of its tether so forcefully that it broke itself in half. Dad just walked up to it, surveyed the damage and said........ DRATS!

makes me laugh now!   Linda

[Mikado]

Thank you, Mikado, for coming back to this topic.

Also Deuem, though I thought you said the rate of climb was constant,  but it appears to slow down toward the end.  It looks like the peak performance came between 11-15. Did I misread you?

rose

Experiments done by someone within my group indicate that a plateau will occur. The experiments were going to escalate into joystick control but based upon the results that were obtained it was deemed unfeasible to continue due to the limitations exhibited by the lifters.

This does not mean that I am not condoning further studies I am just saying that as it stands at the moment, lifters may, if not are, a dead end. That doesn't mean that something useful cannot be obtained from their use.

Nice job deuem.

Mikado

[rose]

Maybe they are a dead end as far as a technology, but I appreciate the learning experience that Deuem has provided. I've never been able to get it so concretely from watching the videos.

rose

[Linda Brown]

And as Deuem is able to demonstrate. Maybe there is value in looking at things again... with fresh eyes.  Linda

[Cosmic4life]

Well its okay because the 8th grade kiddies are doing it

But I did find it interesting that Hal said TT Brown TOLD him to forget about it


Lifter Movie for 8th grade science project



Now surely will all the brains we have here, all the tech we have here, and all the original notes we have hear...

...surely we can build a bigger flying boat, yes? I have a few spare bucks I can sink into such a project

To day a mouse... tomorrow a ferret next week... a trip to the Moon

I think the perfect vehicle for lifter technology is Airships.

An Airship can lift the power supply and form the structure for Ion Lifter propulsion....Helium Airship...Small Nuke Reactor....Steam Turbine/Generator...

Wish i had a couple of million bucks ...

Cosmic..

[Linda Brown]

Save your money Cosmic.... there are even more important concepts trying to broach the surface.

Linda

[Cosmic4life]

Save your money Cosmic.... there are even more important concepts trying to broach the surface.

Linda

I like Airships...call me a romantic.....what's the rush zipping around in a zippy UFO ?   When you can cruise the sky in an Airship.....sit out on a balcony at 20,000 ft.....



Cosmic..

[Linda Brown]

I think that Canaca is developing a fleet that uses electrogravitics somewhere in its system. The name MANTA comes to mind but you may have to check me on that. I do not believe that is classified. If it is.... oops.  Linda

[zorgon]

I like Airships...call me a romantic.....what's the rush zipping around in a zippy UFO ? 

Russians agree with you



I think I will do a thread on Airships  Then and Now

[Cosmic4life]

Russians agree with you



I think I will do a thread on Airships  Then and Now

Excellent...

Looking forward to the thread.

Cosmic..

[Linda Brown]

Oh me too, me too.... Remember the movie the Golden Compass? Wondrous airships!!!!! With engines pushing them gently..... glowing blue!!!!  Linda

[hobbit]

Very esoteric, Hobbit, and a very interesting link

But I would think the Eye of Sauron would be more the all seeing eye


Image Credit: NASA/JPL/HUBBLE

This is an electric universe, not exactly as Dirac thought.
http://directrelativity.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/dirac-sea-programming.html

This is a matrix based universe of geometric form.
Resonance permeates this in a duality of spin.

The ring is formulated upon polygons, the illusion is of circuler .

Creation requires the duality to become, annihilation is when the grim reaper of one spin takes back.
hobbit ramblings