NASA Federal Lawsuit: Does NASA "Promote Religion Masquerading as Science?

[zorgon]

Why is it so hard for people anywhere to accept that everyone has different beliefs on religion and poly ticks?

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Now go back to your corners and come out shaking hands  

(or whatever appendages you might have on your planet)

[undo11]

ama

you said:

Ideology aside, that is not what MY money was supposed to be going towards

MINE EITHER!  ARGH!

[zorgon]

he first states without hesitation, that there are no ETs mentioned in the bible or the tanakh

i agree faulty premise I find a lot of ET's in the Bible and since God et al are not of this Earth they are by default ET. It was a NASA scientist engineer, a Christian, who proved Ezekial's wheels were a viable spacecraft

then he says that christians who run nasa are withholding information because it might prove their religion wrong.

So IF NASA had proof that the Reptilians run this sector of space and the NAVY is holding them at bay with that secret space fleet we all know is out there...  would that not "prove their religion wrong"  IF there are such secreta, I could easily see that as a reason

But then the Bible does state that it was a Reptilian that chatted up Eve (as if it was normal to be chatting with Reptilians) and got us all into trouble...

yet no one wants to believe in Reptilians

Its no wonder we are all confused

yet when you watch a group of skeptics banging away at the subject of doctored  nasa photos or ets, they are often also found banging away at religion as well. 

Skeptics... the kind that we refer to generally as debunkers, are in my mine the worst evil on the planet They bang away at EVERYTHING and believe in NOTHING... they are not worthy of licking my boots

Now people like ArMap... those are true skeptics... the kind that keep seeking but just need better proof

Letting the skeptics of the first kind get to you... means letting them win.  Don't let them win

in effect, he's tossing whole groups of people under the bus, under a false premise

Which is why I said "replacing one falsehood with another" that you took objection to

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z

am i allowed to respond or not?   tell me first.

[zorgon]

am i allowed to respond or not?   tell me first.

You can reply all you like... I just didn't want this to turn away from the topic and turn into a battle

But hey I just work here

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z

you said:

Not ALL people at NASA suppress things
Not ALL things at NASA are suppressed

oh thank god, some common sense.
could you also add to that, Not ALL people at NASA are christians? 
thanks.

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z

you said:

Which is why I said "replacing one falsehood with another" that you took objection to

if you thought my info was a falsehood, why'd you invite me here to talk about it?

[undo11]

well anyway, since nasa is not the only official agency that deals with et questions, does that mean our military is also hiding it for religious reasons?  think about all the people in the military that aren't christian or jewish. lol    what if the reason is because it's to their military  advantage not to tell anybody else?  what if only certain people in the heads of all governments around the world, are allowed to know?  what if it has nothing to do with religion?

had he left the whole christian/jewish thing out of it, and not opened his argument with the bible and tanakh not mentioning ets (his own personal interpretation), he would've had a better case, but as it stands, how's he gonna present that argument in a court of law?  he'd have to first prove ets are not mentioned in the bible.  think about that.  do you want our court system making a ruling about what is and isn't in the bible?   once there is legal precedence for such a position, that's when the real caca hits the air circulating device.  then the court can start ruling what you are allowed to and not allowed to believe about the bible or tanakh or any other book.

hopefully the judge will toss the whole thing out on the pretext that the courts of the usa are not for determining the validity or non validity of ETs in scripture.

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christian dude

[Pimander]

NASA has kept proof of the evidence of Alien life forms interacting with us AWAY from our view and our knowledge. For just now PLEASE focus on that!!!)

Sadly, I don't think Beth wants us to do that.   In fact, I'm sure of it.

[Pimander]

hopefully the judge will toss the whole thing out on the pretext that the courts of the usa are not for determining the validity or non validity of ETs in scripture.

The definition of pretext:
1.  something that is put forward to conceal a true purpose or object; an ostensible reason; excuse: The leaders used the insults as a pretext to declare war.
2.  the misleading appearance or behavior assumed with this intention: His many lavish compliments were a pretext for subtle mockery.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pretext

That about sums it up.  You would want a judge to use religion as an excuse to throw out a case about ET cover-up.  This is pathetic.

[Linda Brown]

ITS NOT HER FAULT PIMANDER!

The sad part of her not wanting us to " go there" Pimander is NOT that is her actual wish.... its that she will not know why she is taking the stand in the first place!... and trying to explain that " red button " to her will do nothing but bring more off -course discussions....

She will do what she is inspired to do and we will follow what information we have been able to see. Those who can not see it will never be able to understand. Morgan once said with a sigh...." It just is what it is...."  Linda

[undo11]

Sadly, I don't think Beth wants us to do that.   In fact, I'm sure of it.

if he addressed the situation correctly and didn't preface it with prejudiced statements, i'd be interested and supportive.  but as it stands, he might as well have said,  nasa are a bunch of women who are withholding information that proves men are superior.  and nowhere in their women's book of the great lipstick tube does it say women are worth anything.

[Linda Brown]

As I recall Undo.... not many places in the Bible supported women either. Thats what gave men the idea that they could take the attitudes that they have.... until relatively recently. All very Biblical.

Just keep hitting that red button. Something will head in your direction. Can't say nobody warned you.  Linda

[Pimander]

As I recall Undo.... not many places in the Bible supported women either. Thats what gave men the idea that they could take the attitudes that they have.... until relatively recently. All very Biblical.

You are right Linda, but to echo you earlier, probably wasting your time.