NASA Federal Lawsuit: Does NASA "Promote Religion Masquerading as Science?

Started by Pimander, June 29, 2012, 07:28:30 PM

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undo11

Quote from: Linda Brown on June 30, 2012, 08:18:37 PM
There is nothing wrong with splitting the discussion Undo... that way you can spend better detailed time on discussions that are not at all interesting to some of us. Having both discussions running parallel would only be beneficial.

Unless you have a reason for wanting to maintain it on this path, neglecting the other?? 

Linda

and YOU, young lady, i will be having some serious prayer time for. i'm gonna pray for you to be richly blessed and receive whatever it is you want in life, because in your case, that's all that matters.
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Quote from: Pimander on June 30, 2012, 08:25:48 PM
If you have any personal issues with me then this is not the place for it.  I like to do my laundry in private.

oh you're not the only one partaking in the emotional and mental cruelty.  you're just the messenger.  albeit, a strange messenger, who hands me a  message and then tells me to ignore most of its content .  maybe catalyst, is a better word for it.
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red button catalyst. Thats really not a bad title but in this case Primander is just doing his job here Undo. YOU are doing the rest of it.  Linda

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Quote from: Linda Brown on June 30, 2012, 08:32:54 PM
red button catalyst. Thats really not a bad title but in this case Primander is just doing his job here Undo. YOU are doing the rest of it.  Linda

did you read his premise?  he interprets the text to mean something that many christians don't agree with and then takes the writings of some catholic priest from 800 years ago (?) as evidence that nasa is hiding information. hey, they may very well be hiding information, but to blame christians and jews for it, is bizarre, particularly when basing it on his own interpretation or the interpretation of a guy who predated the space age by nearly a millenia.
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Quote from: Linda Brown on June 30, 2012, 08:32:54 PM
red button catalyst. Thats really not a bad title but in this case Primander is just doing his job here Undo. YOU are doing the rest of it.  Linda

your default position is to always side against me in any argument, even going as far as to side against me when i was defending you.  i've decided not to respond to you anymore.  last bit of my brain space you will have power over will simply be the space that prays for you to be richly blessed.   don't ask anything more of me, or i will hit the ceiling. 
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zorgon

Quote from: undo11 on June 30, 2012, 08:05:27 PM
why it was necessary for the guy to even bring religion into it, in the first place?

The fact that most people that believe NASA (and the government in general) are covering up ET, believe that it is because of religious reaction throughout the world, not just Christians.

This is something many at ATS and here have said for years, including John and myself.  Sure some people in all religions are starting to accept that there may be life out there, even the Catholic Church is ready to baptize them... but the vast majotity of people in most major religions would not react nicely to revelation that ET is real, has been and is visiting this planet now.

Quoteyou're trolling the forum with this because

He is NOT trolling



undo11

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yes he is trolling because he brings up the guy's case that is predicated on points 1 and 2 that i've mentioned in this thread several times now and then fusses at me when i ask how in the sam hill that could be blamed totally on christians at nasa.  how many christians work at nasa? anybody know?  where's the flippin evidence. it's a trial without a defense attorney or even a judge. 

how many christians at nasa, know about things like the secret space program?  wasn't all that on a need to know basis?   he's not saying the case is predicated on what other people believe in the world, he's saying the christians at nasa are hiding information, deliberately, so as to hide evidence for THEIR personal religion.  oh and jews are, too. 

............is a person jewish due to religion or to race?  i had this argument with someone else, in fact, the guy was a former member of  OTO that i interviewed about jack parsons and all that jazzola.  he said, it's a race, not a religion.  i said it was a religion.  he said no.  the common concensus is that "jew" is racial background not religious background. they are genetic descendants of abraham, on king david's side of the tree, from the tribe of judah (jew).  their religion, whether practiced or not, is irrelevant, according to the OTO, as their genetic make up makes them "jews", not their religion of choice.

so the lawsuit is also stating that a race of people have a specific reason to hide this information.  or is it the religion of that race of people?  or does it really matter, since we have evidence of at least 2 religions and several racial backgrounds in nasa.  i'm sure there are many more.  you know this about nasa.  i can't believe you've sided with this guy on his accusations. 
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thorfourwinds

Quote from: undo11 on June 30, 2012, 08:10:12 PM
un-freakin-believable.

Greetings:

We agree.

And also think that splitting the thread is a wonderful idea!

Beth, what would you like the 'new title' of 'your' new thread to be?

There is where you can make your stand and not derail what looked to be an interesting discussion started by P.

Do you think you can hold your own there, in your own space, defending what you have previously shared in this thread?

Do you think those that came to this thread wanting information contained in the title will follow you over there to discuss the religious connotations you have alluded to?


We, for many, would like you to point out (in ANY 'version') of the Bible where "ET" is SPECIFICALLY mentioned - in your new space.

There, you have your audience.

We, for many, want to see that.

Please tell us what you think of the chance for you to 'really cut loose' and tell it like it is -
in the correct place.


Oh, Beth, BTW, you made a rather derogatory comment about our 'signature sign-off' a while back and we responded and you wisely dropped that one.

So, we'll sign-off as usual.

Peace Love Light
tfw
Liberty & Equality or Revolution


ETA: Pimander, we share your concerns and agree with the split.

Tell you what, either we or Zorgon will do it to take you out of the middle.

Will you use the same exact title? ... we're not really sure how that works.



EARTH AID is dedicated to the creation of an interactive multimedia worldwide event to raise awareness about the challenges and solutions of nuclear energy.

thorfourwinds

Seems like a good place to post this again from another thread.



Quote from: deuem on June 28, 2012, 07:50:25 PM
Hello Zorgon and posers all, I just found this thread and I see it is getting into all sorts of ideas.
(...)
My approach to such a project or any project is where do we go from here?
(...)
When we are on the forum it is team time...

If all of the brain power here can't figure it out who can?

Thanks,
Deuem

Greetings:

Attaboy, Deuem!

We have taken the liberty to highlight the above for obvious reasons.

Thank you for your time, consideration, patience and participation.

Peace Love Light
tfw
Liberty & Equality or Revolution


ETA:  Have some gold!
EARTH AID is dedicated to the creation of an interactive multimedia worldwide event to raise awareness about the challenges and solutions of nuclear energy.

undo11

Quote from: thorfourwinds on June 30, 2012, 09:07:02 PM


Oh, Beth, BTW, you made a rather derogatory comment about our 'signature sign-off' a while back and we responded and you wisely dropped that one.

So, we'll sign-off as usual.

Peace Love Light
tfw
Liberty & Equality or Revolution



what the hell?  are you threatening me too?  what is freakin wrong with you people!?  i'm not rich or powerful, nor do i work at nasa.  i don't even attend a church. i didn't fry people at the stake, kill people in the inquisition or do any other dastardly deeds!  quit with the frigin threats.

i know a person who use to work at nasa. he was mormon.  hubby was in the military and interacted with people from nasa.   this poop is like saying some little guy who cooks the food in the mess hall masterminded the
hiding of et evidence.  in fact, my hubby was the one who showed me the texts about ets in the bible.

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Quote from: undo11 on June 30, 2012, 08:23:46 PM
no pimander, i'm not an idiot.  this entire thing has been one big photo op to insult me as much as possible and watch me squirm.

Do You really believe this!?!  Really!?!  You think this was posted so that We could INSULT...YOU!?!

I have seen no insults here at all.  I have seen differing opinions, Beth, but if You are going to take differing opinions as "insults," that is on You, not Us.

[sigh] Will probably wish I didn't type this.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

undo11

where's the mass mind control here?  not me, i can tell you that.  if someone told you that christians cause you to break out in warts, you'd probably believe it
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thorfourwinds

Dear Beth:

We were merely pointing out another instance where you might have missed the exact point and went off on a tangent then and got over it.

We were congratulating you on your integrity, compassion and sincerity!

Now please address the REAL issues of that significant post, if you can.

Peace Love Light
tfw
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undo11

this is what you all remind me of, only in this case, you've refined your approach and applied little innuendos, little digs and pokes and jibs, and under your breath threats.   

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Quote from: undo11 on June 30, 2012, 09:31:52 PM
what the hell?  are you threatening me too?  what is freakin wrong with you people!?

It appears that no matter what anyone is saying, you only hear what you want to. There was no threat made by Thor or anyone else. There is nothing wrong with 'us people'

I think I will go outside now and pick some Fukushima mutated tomatoes for lunch