Alien IQs

[astr0144]

I am not sure if I should relate this to ET or Just general interest or maybe both...

I seem to recall reading somewhere about what IQs Alien beings may possess...It may had been anywhere from over 250 to 1000 or more...

The Human Average is 100 as most average people interpret the scale of it...

below is a link of some of the Human greatest Geniuses that have ever lived..

http://hem.bredband.net/b153434/Index.htm

I found it a very interesting website !!!

IF considering just Human intelligence !

Other topics have probably discussed some of this !

But I wonder what it is that determines this ?

Barring the Nuture side of how people are brought up with care and Love and guidence...what are the main other factors.

Genetics being the main suggestion...but what made their brains as they were...?

Is it down to diet ?  Breast feeding or Cows Milk ? 

Could a child now be altered by diet alone ? or do you get what you are born with?

Can ones brain be altered by Diet as an Adult to function better ?

Have Vaccines affected  performance ?

Is the populations being dumbed down ?

Is there Mind control ? How much does TV affect us ?
are there EMF waves that are controlling us ? or the fluids within our brains system in relation to iron in our blood passing through our brain arteries etc ?

Just some thoughts that have occurred from things that I once read...

[deuem]

Do they give out Nobel Prizes for processing light?

Just kidding but for myself I don't think anything listed has an affect. I see this as something that happened at conception. I have seen 2 brilliant people off spring hampered children while hampered parents produce an intellectual child. I start testing children at about 1 year and up. If you interview/test enough children you can tell after awhile which ones got it and which ones don't. The problem is what we do as a society do with the ones that don't.

They are the ones that need different challenges then the others. Like the dancing story Linda told. Not all children should go to the same type of school or be judged in the same manner. Besides, what did Einstein ever do for us except invent a refrigerator that no one wanted.

It seems to me that our current IQ testing is bias. Our teaching is bias. Who we look up to is bias. The entire system needs to be looked at and restructured for all aspects of life not just silly tests. Remember, college is just showing us how good one can memorize the answers. Life is needed to make it happen. Deuem

[Linda Brown]

A new way of looking for and recognizing intellect. A new way of reaching out to students? That is precisely what is needed in the future... and  perhaps that is something we can all talk about someday.

And yes.... I think that a Nobel Prize would not be unseemly.

Linda

[astr0144]

I meant to reply to this along time ago...or hope to continue the thread with some other material....


Do they give out Nobel Prizes for processing light?

In your case Deuem ..I am sure many here on P.R.C would think so..or at least offer you the P.R.C Nobel Prize..

Just kidding but for myself I don't think anything listed has an affect.

I see this as something that happened at conception.

You are probably correct, but I do wonder if anything effects this...For eg...Diet that the Parents may have been on at the time...Could this be a major factor...

As for IQ being genetic...What is causes Genetics ? Is this mainly down to diet within the families past history? eg Most families came from farming agricultural backgrounds where their diet was mainly grain diet.
Corn / wheat/rice etc.

Other Family or cultures backgrounds may have eat more meat if they were hunter backgrounds... It is said that meat was the main factor for the development of the Humans larger brains and being  stronger than those on grain diets..

I have seen 2 brilliant people off spring hampered children while hampered parents produce an intellectual child.

I suspect Many other factors can effect this other than diet alone.
Age of parents at time of consent... Maybe how fit the parents are..environment, Temperature of ones surroundings...anyone maybe on medication...having had vaccines etc etc...

There will always be extremes... but as an Average...what would possible be the main causes to create those with intellect in the top 25% or top 5 or 1%..

I start testing children at about 1 year and up. If you interview/test enough children you can tell after awhile which ones got it and which ones don't.

I think in most cases that you may be right...but I also wonder how the interaction of the parents within the child's 1st year may effect it. Or no doubt other factors such as if there are more than one Child that the parents bring up.



The problem is what we do as a society do with the ones that don't.

They are the ones that need different challenges then the others. Like the dancing story Linda told. Not all children should go to the same type of school or be judged in the same manner.

Yes I do think this could be true.

Besides, what did Einstein ever do for us except invent a refrigerator that no one wanted.

This was not what I was led to believe what Einstein did for science !...So you do not believe that what we are told about him is truth ? ie his theories on relativity and gravity ? Please educate me further if this was not the case !

It seems to me that our current IQ testing is bias. Our teaching is bias. Who we look up to is bias. The entire system needs to be looked at and restructured for all aspects of life not just silly tests.


There is no doubt some points to what you say...

Remember, college is just showing us how good one can memorize the answers.


Not being able to memorize somethings does not mean one is not clever in other ways.

Life is needed to make it happen.


Yes experience in life is what counts in the end and how you apply what you have learned or are capable of ...

Deuem
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[deuem]

In some of my spare time I do some work with young kids and it is pretty easy just to see them and know how they will grow up. Smart or stupid. It seems to take root at a very young age. I have also noticed that it can be turned around if the parents care.

If the kid has the right stuff to work with they can still go either way depending on the enviroment. Some parents let them waste away while others care a lot.

I also interview the parents and the ones with red meat are smarter than the ones with out. That means at least once every other week or so. Pork does not do it for some reason. Fish neither. Red meat cooked and not burnt to death is best. We are on the top of the food chain for a reason. We eat meat. If you want to be a veggie, wait til you have passed 16 or so and things stop developing. Yes, there are exceptions but there are exections to everything. I am talking about the average.

Also I want everyone to think about another important issue. Oh,Oh, Dr. Deuem is on stage.  It is very, repeat, very important to never teach your baby, "baby talk". Stop it 100%!! Stop the ga, ga goo, goo language and go dirrectly to your native language, even while still in the mothers belly.

We think we have proven beyond doubt that this, "Baby talk" hurts the childs language skills for up to 6 years or more, maybe forever. First they learn the baby talk, then they have to re-learn the local language. With a childs brain, nothing is tossed out, they are like little sponges. I teach the hardest words to the youngest students. The longer you wait the harder it gets.

The human brain does not like to toss out its primary language. This is why all adults still know baby talk, even thought they have not used it for so many years. So you put the brain in conflict when you switch over. I even recommend telling everyone, grandma, friends and baby sitters to never use it to the child.

This should put the average child years ahead of the rest.

Ok, off the stage. Your turn..
Deuem

[Amaterasu]

I never spoke "baby talk" to MY child - and talked to Her all the time.  And, in fact, at the age of four, People were saying She had a larger vocabulary than most adults They knew!

So...  Though I may not prove an "average," I can say for sure that in MY case, the results were astounding.

[deuem]

I never spoke "baby talk" to MY child - and talked to Her all the time.  And, in fact, at the age of four, People were saying She had a larger vocabulary than most adults They knew!

So...  Though I may not prove an "average," I can say for sure that in MY case, the results were astounding.

So I think you would agree that this is one key in IQ training. Imagine what would happen if an Alien Race was capable of spending the first 5 years in intensive training. Almost non-stop. I know the kid would have no life but I wonder what it would do to the IQ level. Also hoping it is not 5 years of brain-washing.

Children have the capibility to change to where they are and who is teaching them. It is possibile in my book to alter the IQ of childred with the right help and give them an edge in the world. There are also people that are just born smart, who knows why. They are not the rule but the exception.


And
Amaterasu  HIGH FIVE on the no baby talk! As you wrote, it does in fact change things...

Deuem

[Amaterasu]

I do not know for sure that it had an effect on Her INTELLIGENCE, per se - I did not have another Her as a control...  I do know that She did learn proper English and many words.  I used a stage technique of distinct pronunciation when I spoke to Her.  That way She learned phrases like, "For all intents and purposes," not what I though it was growing up:  "For all intensive purposes..."

Thanks, Deuem.  [smile]

[astr0144]

Hi Deuem, 

See comments below.



In some of my spare time I do some work with young kids and it is pretty easy just to see them and know how they will grow up. Smart or stupid. It seems to take root at a very young age. I have also noticed that it can be turned around if the parents care.

That is good if you get the chance to observe young Children in a way that you are aware of how you notice differences in their abilities and behaviors at a young age. It is fascinating to compare and I understand the rewards the teachers get when they teach youngsters in their early years of kinder garden or 1st year of junior school ...


If the kid has the right stuff to work with they can still go either way depending on the environment. Some parents let them waste away while others care a lot.

Yes, its a bit of a lottery when you look at it that way...BUT  also I think a lot depends also upon what background one parents come from..maybe what social status....No doubt those parents that have  money.. they have a better chance of giving their children better things and maybe more time if they are not both having to work long hours to earn...THEN there is the case that if the parents were clever..then often the children will also be..on an average basis ...but not in all cases..

I also interview the parents and the ones with red meat are smarter than the ones with out. That means at least once every other week or so. Pork does not do it for some reason. Fish neither. Red meat cooked and not burnt to death is best. We are on the top of the food chain for a reason. We eat meat. If you want to be a veggie, wait til you have passed 16 or so and things stop developing. Yes, there are exceptions but there are exections to everything. I am talking about the average.

Are you a teacher of some sort ? if you get to interview parents ! and from what your saying also ask them about their diet !...at the same time you have been able to access the differences of the children's abilities based upon this !.... Its interesting what you have said about the meats that they eat in their diets.


I am sure most of us were led to believe that it is fish that help our brains...it is only recently that I have read this is not strictly the case... and yes that Red Meat is one of the main reasons for the development of the human brain.  One thing that I only very recently found out was that LIVER is one of the best foods for Brain development. I suspect not pigs liver ( if what you say about pork not being effective as red meat)....What I found rather surprising is my brother used to always want to eat liver when he was younger rather than other meats...and he is far cleverer than me...    so I have wondered about this....

I assume that this only has effects during younger years...but I would be curious to know could it help improve ones mental abilities when older.. I think Fish is also good for the brain in other ways...But Liver is the main thing responsible for Higher IQs.. I find this an interesting subject and it really makes one wonder just what a lottery it would be if it was mainly down to luck of what diet that we were brought up on.

Also I want everyone to think about another important issue. Oh,Oh, Dr. Deuem is on stage.  It is very, repeat, very important to never teach your baby, "baby talk". Stop it 100%!! Stop the ga, ga goo, goo language and go dirrectly to your native language, even while still in the mothers belly.


I don't think that I had been informed about this before, but maybe I can understand why !

We think we have proven beyond doubt that this, "Baby talk" hurts the childs language skills for up to 6 years or more, maybe forever. First they learn the baby talk, then they have to re-learn the local language. With a childs brain, nothing is tossed out, they are like little sponges. I teach the hardest words to the youngest students. The longer you wait the harder it gets.


I can imagine that what you say about baby talk could be true in terms of the development of verbal intelligence..but I am not sure if it would be good for the baby's to adults emotional state..maybe in later years, but I am no psychologist !..

The human brain does not like to toss out its primary language. This is why all adults still know baby talk, even thought they have not used it for so many years. So you put the brain in conflict when you switch over. I even recommend telling everyone, grandma, friends and baby sitters to never use it to the child.

I can understand the reasoning behind what you are saying...but I am not sure if it would be a good thing in terms of the development of a child's personality. maybe there would need to be a more of balance on when and how often one uses baby talk !

This should put the average child years ahead of the rest.

IF it does.. then yes it would seem good in the longer term of development of the child in their later years if it did improves their abilities to create a better life as an adult..


Its interesting to compare Amy's views on what you have said in comparison to her children.

Ok, off the stage. Your turn.
Deueme

[Shasta56]

My three older grandkids attend a school that offers language immersion.  They are all becoming proficient in Spanish, and the program has improved Shannon's English diction.  The two year old is picking up some Spanish as well.  It has been documented that additional languages are more easily learned at a young age.  Additionally, dementia patients who speak a second language as adults, will revert to using the first language as the dementia progresses.

Shasta

[deuem]

I now have several test babies that are well into their late 20ties and they are doing very well. Still ahead of the curve. One was appointed a position as a very large region at a very young age of bout 25. Never before was such a young person put to this task. But she out shined all the rest and still does.

On kids learning a second language:  If at all possible have one parent speak one language and the other speak another language so when baby looks at mom she speaks say English and when looking at dad speaks the second language. This will help the child not to get confused as to what language to speak. If there is a third language then use it when you are all together. So the is the group language.

The basic rule is to map the brain as early as one can so it has many neural connections and not blank. The quicker the brain gets mapped the quicker it can learn. To do this at an older age is harder. You have all heard the saying, "You can't teach an old dog tricks"

It is very possible to continue learning till the day you die all we are looking for is to figure out if we can give a child a boost so they can do better than the parents. With today's high tech world, they need every advantage they can get.

I do not recommend giving the answers to questions right off the bat. Let them think and just wait. If they give up, ask again and wait. no matter how hard it seems to wait. By waiting, you can see the brain at work in the child. It will search out the correct paths and find the answer. Once those paths are connected again and again they won't forget. Ask the same question a month apart for 3 times and see what happens. We use a book for each child and mark the dates.

A cute trick to pass along. If you get caught up in a child's yelling match. Try this. Don't yell back, just whisper. On most every child, they will stop yelling and try to hear what you are saying. For some reason young brains don't understand why you did this. When they are with their friend and they whisper to each other it is some kind of secrete. So when you whisper they want to hear the secrete. So tell one. But slow and very soft.  by the way this will work with a spouse also but only a few times.

Deuem

[astr0144]

With the exception of any ETs...these guys may be the smartest dudes on planet earth..

I wonder why they have not included any females of our species !

I know of at least one that is on par to some of these IQ scores.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-16-smartest-people-on-earth-24252591.html

[biggles]

Maybe we should ask them to nominate for next President.

Oh, nah, cant be done, its all a stitch up anyway.  We dont have a say.

[robomont]

small genetalia =large brain size.
the brain keeps growing until the skull plates seal.
the skull plates seal when jaw muscles reach a certain strength.
notice grays have small mouths and noses.
in nature ,wide noses and mouths equals wide penises,narrow noses and small mouths equals small narrow penises.
this is probly why grays are cloned as they no longer have the tools for the job.
notice how the dutch and the tribe of really tall africans rely mostly on cattle.its probly the enzymes in the meat.
the brain is fat so beef with good marbling is probly the best diet.

so if women want smart kids then find a man with a small mouth and narrow nose who raises cattle.

[astr0144]

Some Interesting Facts Robomont !..

Curious where you found them from !

It does make one wonder !

and Why !....

How we may vary being from different environments and certain events that may have occurred to our ancestors...as to how we end up being developed....and how their diets may have effected us !..

small genetalia =large brain size.
the brain keeps growing until the skull plates seal.
the skull plates seal when jaw muscles reach a certain strength.
notice grays have small mouths and noses.
in nature ,wide noses and mouths equals wide penises,narrow noses and small mouths equals small narrow penises.
this is probly why grays are cloned as they no longer have the tools for the job.
notice how the dutch and the tribe of really tall africans rely mostly on cattle.its probly the enzymes in the meat.
the brain is fat so beef with good marbling is probly the best diet.

so if women want smart kids then find a man with a small mouth and narrow nose who raises cattle.