Is ET inherently demonic?

[Gigas]

lol, I'll send a visitor to your dreamzzzzzz

[COSMO]

I would like to know How many PRC members believe that E.Ts exist and how many do not !

I have just accepted it as fact for a long time.  When I came to the conclusion that spacetime could be mastered that automatically made it possible in my mind for others to visit from afar.  I too have had some "dreams" that I was not sure what to think of until I read Whitley Strieber's COMMUNION.  Some things were perfect matches. 


Maybe all demons are inherently ET's? 

[astr0144]

Very weird !...One asks what it was all about...many questions to be asked.

What had they done to you and why  ?
whats it done to you psychologically / Physically ?

How big were these beings and how would you describe them...?

Did they take you into the craft to do this ?

How many were there ? can you recall the surroundings in other detail ?

Hope to continue on with this later / over the weekend..

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I was in shock. I stepped from my truck in the rest area to pee. I stood at the door of my truck frozen because I had the over powering fear something was above and behind me looking down at me. I jumped back in my truck and drove 50 miles to bangor maine to the truck stop. My left side was still buzzing as I walked around inside and still could not believe it.

To this day, my entire left side still has the tingling and buzzing feeling

[astr0144]

            Now I do not want to become abducted during my zzz time !   ......

I probably wont be able to zzz after reading and thinking about this !

lol, I'll send a visitor to your dreamzzzzzz

[astr0144]

Perhaps we can ask Zorgon to do a PRC survey on how many of the members believe E.T is on our planet ! 

It maybe that some are demons and some are angels !   

I would like to know How many PRC members believe that E.Ts exist and how many do not !

I have just accepted it as fact for a long time.

Maybe all demons are inherently ET's?

[Gigas]

Where there is power and authority, they will be found.

Hey, I was thinking, they may have taken all the gold from the knox box since that was what Bryce Zabel was told their here for.

[zorgon]

It maybe that some are demons and some are angels !   

Since the Gods, Demons and Angels of religions are NOT OF THIS EARTH

The whole lot of them are in the truest meaning of the word, Extraterrestrial

This is what we call and Alien today.... would you class it as a Demon or an Angel?



If you saw this one in the 12th Century would it be considered an Angel or a Demon?



If you saw this Pleiadian Priestess would she be a Demon or an Angel?



What if she had a serpent like Goa'uld symbiote inside her like Hathor?



And what of this little beauty? An Angel?



Or a Demon?



Not so easy, is it?

[petrus4]

So are aliens demons or demons aliens.

What do you think a superior race would do with heathens like us. Certainly they would remain hidden because to allow us to know them would ruin the game.

BTW, petrus4, good observations on things.

For the record, I'm inclined to remain stubbornly persistent in my belief that the Pleiadians (assuming that they definitely do exist at all, of course; which barring ridicule, I'm inclined to at least hypothetically suspect that they do) are not, in fact, demonic.

The stuff that I've read about them does, however, challenge me, and I think they want it to.  The sexual aspect in particular is a major challenge to my worldview.  For most of my life, I've thrown sex into the proverbial "too hard," basket.  Truthfully I tend to view romance in general as being entirely more trouble than it is worth, and even if I was to stop thinking like that, my parents are always on hand to trash any potential relationship I get into, before it has a chance to begin. 

So it's a lot easier for me, to basically go through life viewing myself as the perpetual autistic five year old that they view me as.  At least that way, I get to avoid conflict.  Sex is something for adults, and one of the core definitions of autism is that with it, you don't get to become one.

I also genuinely do believe in what I said about their being an inverse relationship between sexual freedom and actual reproduction, and that the cabal are using that as a weapon against us, for the purposes of depopulation.  The more open people are about sex, the more they use it purely for pleasure.  While I actually don't believe that there is anything wrong with pleasure, in and of itself, I also believe that things need to be used for the purpose that they were meant for.  It's not good for the long term survival of the species, if everyone is having sex, but nobody (or close to nobody) is reproducing.

Humanity is a child species.  When I've read Lyssa's channelling, the one persistent mental image I got, was of around a 28-32 year old, (them) talking to a 14 to 17 year old.  (Us)

In other words, yes they're adults, to a greater degree than we are.  At the same time, they haven't been adults for all that long, relatively speaking, so there's still a certain amount of the punkishness, rebellion, and proverbial "spit and vinegar," there, but that is waning.  If you read Billy Meier, that is implied there as well; it's not just in Lyssa's stuff.  The fact that they have a bit of an attitude, in that respect, is also a big part of what makes it easier for Christians to regard them as demons. 

Truthfully however, even though it's challenging, this is actually one of the main things I like about them.  To the degree that we speculate about extraterrestrials at all, it is usually assumed that the group in question will be a long way ahead of us, not just technologically speaking, but developmentally as well.  So you tend to come up with mental images of a group like the Vulcans, who are very detached and boring, and don't really have much personality at all.  The idea, on the other hand, of a group who, while having progressed technologically, to a degree still have a dash of appreciation for blue denim, motocycles, and Axel Rose, is a lot more appealing, and approachable.

[Amaterasu]

In a deceptive systemic system we find ourselves in at this moment, we think we know it. But, knowing it how. If you think eating takes the hunger away, what about when you eat and nothing seems to stop that empty feeling.

Never really had that experience...  Eating always seems to fix the hunger issue.

It goes way deep in how much you allow in the belief system of believing. Do you believe 911 was a phony made to happen event or just the way the experts said it went down. Did you believe the Oklahoma bombing from 1 guy and a truck or the controllers version.

What I'm getting at is this, how much will you believe from your own thinking verses what you are told and shown. Life is a lie no matter how you toss it.

I tend to assign probabilities.  I believe nothing 100% but there are things that I give 99.999999%.  I also adjust probabilities as I collect data.  Life is not so much a lie to Me as a mystery to be investigated.  I have given the probability that 9/11 was a phony made to happen event about 99.5% and the probability it went down as "They" say it did about .5%.  This is based on extensive investigation.  About the same on Oklahoma.  99.5% it was staged, .5% it was a random guy with a single truck bomb.

Aliens look just like us and mingle in our reality. I know this for a fact. They have no empathy to humans and will kill you, me and anyone else that may interfere with their time here. Their technology can move them in and out of our time and space.

I give this about a 90% chance of being true relative to one species.  I give a good 80% probability that there are other species that do care and have empathy.  More data are needed to pin these probabilities down.

None of you have to believe me. Its something you have to find and wrap your mind around as you put it together and see the big picture. This is a prison and its filled with drip fed distractions to keep you chasing illusive dreams.

I give the probability that this is indeed a prison planet 95% or better.  I see things that lead Me to give that same probability to being distraction...  I will not claim I "believe" (or disbelieve) You, but give, again, the same probability to Your words being true.

I have been under the alien deep stare.

Would love to hear Your description of that experience.  [smile]

EDIT to add:  Did not read further.  Thank You for the description of Your experience.

[Amaterasu]

If you want that to be the bankers, ok. But what if thats not what it is, what if its a power beyond human power.

What if They ARE the bankers...  Or become "satan" to encourage worship of that?  Duping those bankers into that "religion?"  We have good evidence to place high probabilities on the idea that They (the bankers) are "satanists..."  Some have claimed to have seen "satan."  So...  Could it have been these aliens shapeshifting into "satan" to further these bankers' beliefs in "satan?"

[undo11]

Since the Gods, Demons and Angels of religions are NOT OF THIS EARTH

well that's a bit of a technicality.  they WERE but now they're not but yet they can be and occassionally are. 
and we have variants.   mannnny variants.
as a word ,"angel", refers to many different races. 

2 of them mentioned in the bible,  may be the same: cherubim and seraphim.  (short versions: cherub, seraph).  i don't know if they are the same, to be honest. i'd be more inclined to think the cherub were like greys, in that they are diminutive, naked, flying (usually a requirement of an angel is the ability to fly) and also near/around the throne of god.  and seraph are more like reptilians, as far as the ufology thing goes because seraphim are serpents/dragons. 

one reason cherub may be the same as seraph is that the cherub is another name for chariot.  in effect, the conveyance of god.  lucifer was said to be a covering cherub, perhaps a conveyance and guardian of god.  and if you imply the plural meaning to elohim (and it is a plural word), there's alot more than one cherub conveyance.

thing is, even after the fall of "lucifer", there are still seraphim around the throne of god.  and presumably that's because only 1/3rd fell with lucifer.   so some dragons/serpents, are still "friends" (covering/conveyances) with god and some are not.  what's a seraph look like, you might ask?  it's a dragon/serpent with 6 wings.   wings?  it's a flying conveyance.

why  would dragons/serpents be around the throne of god?  the metaphors start getting heavy in this area. 

there's the zoa variety, which has eyes covering its body. i think that is the wheel within in a wheel reference in ezekiel 1, cause the wheel had eyes covering it and the six winged angel with 4 faces was inside it. if the seraph told the wheels with eyes to "go this way," it went that way, wherever the seraphim told the wheels to go, that's where they went.  so a zoa is a seraph inside the wheels with eyes.

there are so many theories on what all that means, including michael heiser's mundane version which states that it's just a reference to the hebrew version of time passage, based on the movement of stars and constellations across the sky.  the four faces of the "spirit" inside the wheels, were man, eagle, ox, lion which are the names of constellations on each of four compass points in the sky (n,s,e,w).  and the inference that god's conveyance, his celestial chariot as it were, is the sky, in all 4 directions.  and the wheels are like the ecliptic constellations. 

that, unfortunately, does not cover the rest of the information.  we look at this type of heavy metaphor and try our best to describe it in context, but sometimes the surrounding context is only one layer of the actual information. i admit, heiser has a very good point, however, it doesn't explain the arrival of the zoa/seraph, which even if the wheels are constellations, still has the entire thing happening from ...well, watch this (and notice he says, "the heavens were opened".  i don't think he means clouds moved aside!)


notice he says the wheels were like the appearance of chrysolite or electrum.  far as i know, the ecliptic is not the color of chrysolite
there are too many things in there that heiser doesn't address.

the northern hemisphere of the sky, has a constellation called draco, which is to say, dragon.  it marks precession in the book of revelation. its tail hurls 1/3rd of the stars to the earth (fallen angels, et.al, fallen conveyances, perhaps). it doesn't mean real stars cause just one star hurled at earth would be curtains for the planet.  it's talking about the precession of the equinoxes.  as precession advances, the tail of draco appears to "scoop" (notice the scoop of the little dipper is in draco's tail) the stars up and then as precession advances more, the tail is turned upside down and now the contents of the scoop are facing downwards as if dropping it's contents on the earth from the sky.  this is a time reference. however, this is not the way it's being implied in ezekiel 1.  there may be a time reference embedded in it, but it is not the only information. 

[undo11]

if these things are metaphors in layers, one layer would be referring to time, another referring to hierarchy, another referring to who is where and what they are doing and how they do it, and finally, what this means to us, in the broader scope of ufology, angelogy and demonology.

strictly speaking, demons are said to be the disembodied spirits of the nephilim of the old testament. a nephil or nephal, was a human that was part "angel" or part "god."   when they died,  they had no glorified body to ascend to because they were neither fully human nor fully angelic nor fully god.  so they supposedly, possess, in some way, the bodies of humans on this planet, in order to have physicality. 

[stealthyaroura]

Petrus4, you mention the film Event Horizon and all the chaotic madness in the film,
Funny, of all the film's i like, this is one of my favourites in it's genre,YET there is something
very terrifying about the film. The whole stardrive and the creation of an event horizon
to me a "stargate" seems to close to the truth.
as much as i love the film it troubles me also and i don't spook easy.

And yes i think there are "them" who mingle amongst us i have no proof though.

[Amaterasu]

I also genuinely do believe in what I said about their being an inverse relationship between sexual freedom and actual reproduction, and that the cabal are using that as a weapon against us, for the purposes of depopulation.  The more open people are about sex, the more they use it purely for pleasure.  While I actually don't believe that there is anything wrong with pleasure, in and of itself, I also believe that things need to be used for the purpose that they were meant for.  It's not good for the long term survival of the species, if everyone is having sex, but nobody (or close to nobody) is reproducing.

If You believe that Humans are too plentiful on this planet, then it's a good thing to reduce birth rates.  If You give high probabilities to the idea that We could support many more Humans on this planet (like at least 10 times), then it is irrelevant.  It just means that children who are born will be wanted, and We will reach the limits of the planet in a longer span of time.

I opine that sex is for BOTH procreative and pleasure functions.  I see no issue in focusing on the pleasure.  (This from One who has taken an oath of celibacy...  LOL!)

Humanity is a child species.

I opine that Humanity has been FORCED into "child species" status.  Through manipulation and control, We have not been allowed to mature.

[zorgon]

well that's a bit of a technicality.  they WERE but now they're not but yet they can be and occassionally are. 
and we have variants.   mannnny variants.
as a word ,"angel", refers to many different races.

Right... that clears it all up...   

2 of them mentioned in the bible,  may be the same: cherubim and seraphim.  (short versions: cherub, seraph).  i don't know if they are the same, to be honest. i'd be more inclined to think the cherub were like greys, in that they are diminutive, naked, flying (usually a requirement of an angel is the ability to fly) and also near/around the throne of god.  and seraph are more like reptilians, as far as the ufology thing goes because seraphim are serpents/dragons. 

Cherubim at the time of Solomon looked like this....



Today that has been distorted so they look look like this...