Is ET inherently demonic?

[petrus4]

(Minor warning:  I get a little heavy, here.  Nothing graphic, but possibly an 18+ topic)

The reason why I wanted to ask this question, is because there's always a lot of talk on ATS from Christians, about how UFOs are supposedly always, inevitably, unavoidably demonic; no ifs, buts, or maybes.  They also quote the renowned UFO researcher J. Allen Hynek, who apparently, ultimately came to the same conclusion, although I don't think he believed that to begin with.

When I mentioned the Pleiadians here a bit back as well, someone (I can't remember who off the top of my head, I'm sorry) also pointed me to another thread they'd made, about how apparently, it isn't possible to believe in extraterrestrials without being a victim of CIA mind control.

So I'm noticing a general pattern, pretty much everywhere, which does not allow for any possibility of extraterrestrial life being benevolent or positive in intention.  As another point, I found out probably last year, that one thing which both Christianity and Satanism have in common, is a belief that the final attempt at total deception of the human population by demons, was going to involve said demons masquerading as corporeal extraterrestrials.

I want to mention another odd story from my own experience, relating to this subject, which has been taking shape over the last little while.  About six years ago now, I first became acquainted with the writings of a woman named Lyssa Royal.  Lyssa is or was a channel within the New Age movement, who claims to have channelled a number of acorporeal extraterrestrial entities.  The one I'm going to be focusing on here, is a Pleiadian woman by the name of Sasha.

Sasha described certain elements of her society, and in fact described something very similar to what Amaterasu has spoken of, with the Abundance Paradigm.  Sasha mentioned an economic model which she called the Equal Value System, which apparently had parallels with the Hindu concept of Karma Yoga.  The idea was that the entire society was able to function on the basis of people being willing to give to each other, entirely without thought of reward or concern for reciprocity, because of the degree of both trust and maturity which existed within the society.  This tied in with another of Sasha's themes, concerning individual responsibility.

Sasha also, however, described her society as being extremely sexually liberal.  Pansexuality was the norm, and it was implied that literally every possible kind of sexual or romantic configuration was accepted and present, within the society.  Sex was engaged in freely, and it was again implied that the reason why this was possible, was because the Pleiadian equivalent of the Brotherhood of Man was not merely an abstract or theoretical idea to them, but a concrete, tangible, practical physical reality.  The entire species viewed itself as one family, and the concept of "strangers," apparently did not exist.

As another note, which ties in with the entire demonic meme, I knew someone who claimed to be a member of the Church of Satan in California, in 2005.  When Lyssa Royal's name came up in conversation at one point, this person replied that he knew of Lyssa, and that she had been involved with the church for several years.

Here's the more recent part.  About a week ago on YouTube, I first came across, and started watching, a number of videos released by a woman named Lacigreen; and almost immediately, my memories of Lyssa's channelled material from Sasha came flooding back into my head.

Lacigreen is:-

-  Pansexual, and extremely sexually liberal.  Possibly nymphomaniacal, although her implied sexual addiction may, to a degree, be part of an act.
-  Identifies herself as both a "peer sex educator," and "sexual futurist."
-  Is visibly beautiful and sensual, and has a strong sexual aura.
-  Has ideas which are virtually identical to Sasha's.  As long as precautions against disease are taken, there does not seem to be any form of (consensual) sexual activity, orientation, or relationship configuration (such as triads, polygamy, communal nudity, group sex, and so on) which Laci considers unacceptable.
-  A vehement atheist, although less aggressive than most I have come across.

As a final, perhaps synchronistic point, while browsing on the Web recently, I found a reference to the site YouPorn.  I'm not going to claim that I never look at pornography myself, and given that I hadn't seen that particular site before, I went and looked.  What I found in this particular case, however, was something I found profoundly disturbing.

There was a video called, "The more, the merrier!" which contained a group sex scene with I believe five people; three females and two males.  What struck me in this particular case, was the strongly chaotic and frenzied nature of the sexual activity being engaged in.  While watching this scene for the 20 seconds or so that I did, before having to turn away, I was shocked to be mentally reminded of something else which I had seen, years earlier.

It was a scene from the science fiction horror film, Event Horizon, about a superluminal spacecraft which had somehow entered another, extremely chaotic dimension, which was referred to in the film as Hell.  The specific scene from the film which reminded me of this porn scene, was some retrieved video footage which is shown early in the film, where it is implied what this "Hell," is like.  There is blood gushing from mouths, and other liquids coming from various other bodyparts, etc, as well as some screaming and moaning.  It's shocking stuff, but it was the rapid fire, chaotic or entropic nature of it, which reminded me of the YouPorn orgy clip.

This made me wonder; is frenzied, chaotic sex of that nature, the sort of thing which Sasha (and Lacigreen) had in mind for human society, when she talked about the complete sexual liberalism of her own supposed social model?

Two final points. 

Despite the degree of sexual liberalism and openness that now exists, and people like Lacigreen and Sasha calling for more, I recently discovered from Wikipedia, that the human birthrate in the industrialised world, has fallen in excess of 60% since 1950.  That date is particularly interesting, when you consider that it is usually the 50s which are cited as an archetypical example of a sexually repressive society.  Given this, I am beginning to suspect that there is actually an inverse correlation between sexual liberalism, and real reproductive fertility.  In other words, everyone's having sex, but hardly anyone is having children.

I am inclined to believe that this ties in with the psychopathic cabal's depopulation agenda, as documented by the Georgia Guidestones, which calls for the reduction of the human population to 500 million people; and truthfully, I have also long suspected that feminism and the growing social acceptance of non-heteronormative expressions of sexuality, are both key elements of that agenda.  Sex is now primarily viewed as a means of sensual aggrandisement, with reproduction having become almost completely irrelevant.  I believe feminism also plays a key role in the unsustainably low birth rate, (as low as 1.4 in some countries) by causing alienation, division, and antagonism between women and men.

My final point.




The top photo is one of Laci Green, from her web site, Sexual Futurist.  The bottom photo is a scanned photo of Lyssa Royal, from during the 80s, when she would have been in her 30s, and thus closer to Laci's own age.  Is it just me, or is anyone else seeing some synchronicity, here?

This is also a similar appearance, in some respects, to a few other women associated with the Pleiadians which I've heard of, as well.






The top picture is Barbara Marciniak, a channel of theirs.  The second picture is Semjase, Billy Meier's Pleiadian contact.  Note the similarity of the eyes.  The third picture is Kelly LeBrock, in her role as Lisa, in Weird Science.  I include her photo here, because LeBrock's role as Lisa, in terms of both personality and appearance, is quintessentially Pleiadian.  Note the similarity, again, to Lyssa Royal.

Virtually all Pleiadian contact that I've read about, seems to revolve around a similar theme; either a male contactee will be contacted by a beautiful, sensual, blonde or red haired woman, or the acorporeal entities associated with this species are themselves channelled by women with similar appearance.  Lacigreen is not a channel for them, but to me her overall vibe is sufficiently similar, that she really might as well be.

I'm not intending to draw any hard conclusions, here.  Just patterns I've noticed.  Some stuff to think about.

[Amaterasu]

ET inherently "demonic..."  I would first like a definition of "demonic."  Does that mean, as might be concluded from the above, sexually "liberated?"  If so, I have no issues with "demonic."  If childbirth is reduced, that's fine by Me.  It means virtually all children born are WANTED.  As long as the sexual behavior does not deviate into breaking the three Laws, why should We care?

If it means death and destruction...  I would guess no.  High probability that if They wanted to exterminate Humans, They could.

But...  I believe there are a number of factions.  Some factions would protect Us.  Others, not so much.  Some are not "ET" in a literal sense, as it was Their ancestors who were ET, but They, Themselves were born here.  (These latter are likely the Ones in nominal control...)

So I suspect that "ET" is in contention, if not warring, with other ET and ET descendents.  Some are "demonic," others "angelic."  And a mixed bag in between.

That is what I would estimate.

[Gigas]

It should be obviously plain to see, if your tuned to see it and not sheepled.

Here it is, we are prisoners, we are being handled like interned refuges, our lives mean little to the conquerers running this sheepledom. Life is not all what it appears to be. We are in a neural network where anything can be made to happen, anybody can be conjured into reality, reality is not what you learned it to be.

Everything the 5 senses experience can be manipulated anyway the system instructs the mechanism in your mind to interpret. See, thats the function of the brain, interpret the abstract into recognizable foolery and accept it.

Aliens, demons, angels, gods, devil, its all made up to distract you from finding the truth.

Pay very close attention to III, 3, three and the triangle. 3 sides and we see the triangle with a pyramid. 3 4 7 a set of numbers to research.

[undo11]

i think it would be all contingent on whether we are spiritual entities in flesh encounter suits or not.  if we are, then the encounter suit is supposed to be the follower not the leader.

[petrus4]

It should be obviously plain to see, if your tuned to see it and not sheepled.

Baa.  My apologies.

[Amaterasu]

It should be obviously plain to see, if your tuned to see it and not sheepled.

Here it is, we are prisoners, we are being handled like interned refuges, our lives mean little to the conquerers running this sheepledom. Life is not all what it appears to be. We are in a neural network where anything can be made to happen, anybody can be conjured into reality, reality is not what you learned it to be.

Everything the 5 senses experience can be manipulated anyway the system instructs the mechanism in your mind to interpret. See, thats the function of the brain, interpret the abstract into recognizable foolery and accept it.

Aliens, demons, angels, gods, devil, its all made up to distract you from finding the truth.

Pay very close attention to III, 3, three and the triangle. 3 sides and we see the triangle with a pyramid. 3 4 7 a set of numbers to research.

Well...  If nothing can be trusted, then what?

I googled 3 4 7 - got all kinds of things - bible stuff, 3+4=7, an album by Midnight Oil, but nothing I saw as relating to this topic...

[Gigas]

Baa.  My apologies.

There you have it.

Before your essence, the conscious you is dropped into this manufactured reality, the parting word upon departure is BELIEVE.

[petrus4]

Well...  If nothing can be trusted, then what?

I googled 3 4 7 - got all kinds of things - bible stuff, 3+4=7, an album by Midnight Oil, but nothing I saw as relating to this topic...

If there's one thing I've learned to appreciate, it's people who, while sober, can communicate in a style which for me, usually requires the consumption of LSD in order to achieve.

[Amaterasu]

What is left if One believes in nothing, Gigas? Where would the point be in continuing with no beliefs about anything?  One has to believe something - even if it is about the rules of the video game We play.

Relating this to ET, We may consider that the video game offers many worlds, many histories, many races (just like the MMORP).  Could not some then have traveled to Our segment of the game?  Or do You say that any such Beings do not exist in this game We play?

[Gigas]

When one is reminded to believe, one must wonder why. Believe the lie, the deception, the distractions. If you feel the need to believe and the world looks fine with all thats going on and not making sense but you have to believe its humans doing this, well, thats up to whomever wishes to believe. Long time ago my mom told me, you don't believe in anything. How right she was.

I'm suspicious of this whole affair and those numerals, 3 4 7 were planted in my head as part of the puzzle that needs to be arranged.

[Amaterasu]

When one is reminded to believe, one must wonder why. Believe the lie, the deception, the distractions. If you feel the need to believe and the world looks fine with all thats going on and not making sense but you have to believe its humans doing this, well, thats up to whomever wishes to believe. Long time ago my mom told me, you don't believe in anything. How right she was.

I'm suspicious of this whole affair and those numerals, 3 4 7 were planted in my head as part of the puzzle that needs to be arranged.

Um...  One believes that breakfast solves hunger, and that a good breakfast nourishes the body better than a bad one.  So, should I think it is a a lie when I am reminded a good breakfast is better than a bad one?  Or that breakfast solves hunger?  Where does One draw the line here?  So...  Do You believe You exist?

As for the numbers...  Ok.  I found nothing I see as significant except that the first two add up to the last.

[astr0144]

I am not sure that I follow all what is referred to as we have all had different experiences and no doubt some members on here have deeply studied some of the topics on here.

Am I right in saying ( as I think that I understand ) that if say we believe that we are totally controlled in our existence that maybe we no longer have much believe for the future...or something along these lines..

Is it being suggested that this control is E.T related or human created ! or maybe combination...

Admittedly I suspect that If we new for sure that we are under a total control and we did not like this...then it seems that we have little hope for better things if say Total freedom was our desire !

IF we did not know what we believe that we know...for eg had never studied this type of thing...then we would just go along with our daily lives without being aware...

I myself at times wish I did not know what I believe that I now know...as I was freer in my mind before I was aware of what I believe may be going on.

Initially after some study I believed it was Governments that were controlling most things...  Or maybe my a combination of lack of my own abilities , mental &  physical strength, not higher enough IQ ..etc to create my own destiny as I would like it... I suspect 95% or more of the population may feel like this at least some of the time.

IF however I / we become aware of other agendas, such as we have become controlled by other forces beyond our control...such as Gov manipulation...maybe DNA or genetic manipulation by the powers that be or by E.T ....then I do not see much chance of altering ones destiny...unless something can change..

Just trying to get out of the Rat race for most is a huge challenge...before we can even consider really living as we desire..

Obtaining money helps to some degree, no doubt...but money alone cannot prevent outside forces effecting us..

We can all be targeted...by what we may see as Evil forces...

What I do know is that the older and wiser I become the more fearful I have become... and much of the fears do stop us really living our lives..

I don't know if I am indicating some of the things that may be being suggested in some of the posts..! 

[Gigas]

In a deceptive systemic system we find ourselves in at this moment, we think we know it. But, knowing it how. If you think eating takes the hunger away, what about when you eat and nothing seems to stop that empty feeling.

It goes way deep in how much you allow in the belief system of believing. Do you believe 911 was a phony made to happen event or just the way the experts said it went down. Did you believe the Oklahoma bombing from 1 guy and a truck or the controllers version.

What I'm getting at is this, how much will you believe from your own thinking verses what you are told and shown. Life is a lie no matter how you toss it.

Aliens look just like us and mingle in our reality. I know this for a fact. They have no empathy to humans and will kill you, me and anyone else that may interfere with their time here. Their technology can move them in and out of our time and space.

None of you have to believe me. Its something you have to find and wrap your mind around as you put it together and see the big picture. This is a prison and its filled with drip fed distractions to keep you chasing illusive dreams.

I have been under the alien deep stare.

[astr0144]

In modern society with ALL the media type control...TV, PC, Newspapers magazines etc... I agree that we are totally bombarded with mind control.
I question also is it mind stimulation or mind control...Some TV programs and internet forums like PRC..I / we may like...a lot of the other things that enter my / our eyes / mind...maybe I / we  ignore or just filter somehow...although I do not doubt a lot of mind control will be subconsciously enter my / our psychy...

If I was on a desert Island...with none of this connection,One wonders how differently we would be.

I have to say....JUST HOW complicated Life can appear....Science being one example and Economics and the whole Political / control system is another.

For eg..I am told that the stock / financial markets is designed..to take the money from the uneducated into the hands of the educated...
Politicians and Bankers create varied conditions to continually ROB US ALL...
Yet most of us do NOT understand what is going on...
This keeps us under their control..again Money being a major controlling force...in the educated 1st world economies..where as one time , it would had been more a case of the strong would manipulate the weak..until the Gun was invented... then it became who was faster ! and so on etc..

Gigas...I wonder if you would consider sharing your E.T experiences.
If you have wrote about them...can you indicate which threads that I can look at.


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What I'm getting at is this, how much will you believe from your own thinking verses what you are told and shown. Life is a lie no matter how you toss it.

Aliens look just like us and mingle in our reality. I know this for a fact. They have no empathy to humans and will kill you, me and anyone else that may interfere with their time here. Their technology can move them in and out of our time and space.

None of you have to believe me. Its something you have to find and wrap your mind around as you put it together and see the big picture. This is a prison and its filled with drip fed distractions to keep you chasing illusive dreams.

I have been under the alien deep stare.

[Gigas]

I don't write much about that time anymore but.

I will say this. I did not believe in aliens, ufos I knew from reading, but aliens, no.

They took me up while I was asleep up in medway maine back in october 88. Here's what I saw as I was floated up in pitch blackness.