Ancient Artifacts

[COSMO]

I know there was a post about THE ANTIKYTHERA MECHANISM previously, but here is something I saw information on years ago, and wanted revisit.  There are numerous artifacts on this site but the metal coils and spirals caught my attention for some reason.  Sure looks like some type of technology to me.

http://rabbithole2.com/presentation/ancient/ancient_artifacts_that_challenge_modern_archaeology.htm

SPIRAL-SHAPED MICRO-OBJECTS FOUND IN RUSSIA


In the years 1991-1993, gold prospectors on the small river Narada, on the eastern side of the Ural mountains, have found unusual, mostly spiral-shaped objects. The size of these things ranges from a maximum of 3 cm (1.2 in.) down to an incredible 0.003 mm, about 1/10,000th of an inch! To date, these inexplicable artifacts have been found in their thousands at various sites near the rivers Narada, Kozhim, and Balbanyu, and also by two smaller streams named Vtvisty and Lapkhevozh, mostly at depths between 3 and 12 meters (10 and 40 ft.) The spiral-form objects are composed of various metals: the larger ones are of copper, while the small and very small ones are of the rare metals tungsten and molybdenum. Tungsten has a high atomic weight, and is also very dense, with a melting point of 3410 deg. C (6100 deg. F). It is used principally for the hardening of special steels, and in unalloyed form for the filaments of light bulbs. Molybdenum also has a high density, and a respectable melting point of 2650 deg. C (4740 deg. F). This metal too is used for hardening steels and giving them corrosion-resistant properties, these being used principally for highly-stressed weapon parts and vehicle armor. All tests carried out to date these objects to around 20,000 years old.





Quite apart from such subtleties, these objects are obviously the product
of an inexplicable and highly advanced technology; they bear remarkable
resemblances to control elements used in micro-miniature devices in our
very latest technology, so-called nanomachines. This technology is still in
its infancy with us, but already engineers are thinking of applications
which are pure science-fiction.

http://www.artgomperz.com/a1999/oct/ice2.htm

[petrus4]

Interesting that you should make this thread right now, COSMO.  I was just looking up OOParts on the Web earlier.  Great minds, I guess.

I've always been fascinated by discoveries that the mainstream archaeological/paleontological narrative has no room for.  I think it's yet another example of the standard strategy which governments use for thought control.

a}  Always have your own narrative.  It doesn't matter how implausible or how much of a blatant lie it might be.  The point is that it is a coherent narrative, and that is what people need.

b}  Destroy enough evidence of the narrative which is not conducive to your control, that said opposing narrative is no longer coherent.  You don't need to destroy all of the evidence for it, at all; you simply need to destroy enough that those who want to believe in said opposing narrative, only ever have disjointed, individual fragments of evidence to cite, which can and will be easily refuted by debunkers.  The debunkers will be desperate to defend your own narrative at virtually any cost, because the one thing which they need, more than anything else, is a coherent narrative which has been given to them by someone else, which they haven't had to figure out for themselves.

[Littleenki]

I love ooparts..a favorite..good post, Cosmo, and cool site the rabbit hole there!
Cheers!

[Amaterasu]

Yeah, more and more and more...  We are seeing evidence that the history They give Us CANNOT be correct.  And, yes, petrus, They do try to keep it hidden.  Thankfully, the web is here to help spread it and when enough comes together, even Their narrative crumbles.

[zorgon]

I have a question...

How many of you actually care if the Ooparts that are suddenly turning up everywhere with NO record of location, who dug them up etc...

even care if they are real or faked?

Is it enough to say "Oh see? main stream archaeologists have been hiding this stuff"

Just asking....  because what I see around the net is any good story will do

[undo11]

I have a question...

How many of you actually care if the Ooparts that are suddenly turning up everywhere with NO record of location, who dug them up etc...

even care if they are real or faked?

Is it enough to say "Oh see? main stream archaeologists have been hiding this stuff"

Just asking....  because what I see around the net is any good story will do

i've discovered that's true about everything.   you can present thousands of years of archaeological evidence, written texts, histories, artifacts, even science, to corroborate something and have people stick their noses up at it but swallow the flimiest of evidence on a subject they are more inclined to believe.  we realize this about each other, but rarely put ourselves to the same scrutiny.

[petrus4]

I have a question...

How many of you actually care if the Ooparts that are suddenly turning up everywhere with NO record of location, who dug them up etc...

even care if they are real or faked?

Is it enough to say "Oh see? main stream archaeologists have been hiding this stuff"

Just asking....  because what I see around the net is any good story will do

Silence.  I demand Atlantean ancestry, with direct, ancient, superluminal spacefaring capabilities via my Merkabah, and Stargates.  Nothing else will be accepted.

*Blocks ears with fingers*  La la la I can't hear you!  Rationalism?!  Of what speakest thou?

[Amaterasu]

I have a question...

How many of you actually care if the Ooparts that are suddenly turning up everywhere with NO record of location, who dug them up etc...

even care if they are real or faked?

Is it enough to say "Oh see? main stream archaeologists have been hiding this stuff"

Just asking....  because what I see around the net is any good story will do

Oh, I appreciate only the ones that have some info on when and where and who.  The stuff Nassim is showing is still suspect.

[undo11]

Silence.  I demand Atlantean ancestry, with direct, ancient, superluminal spacefaring capabilities via my Merkabah, and Stargates.  Nothing else will be accepted.

*Blocks ears with fingers*  La la la I can't hear you!  Rationalism?!  Of what speakest thou?

i rest my case.

[ArMaP]

i've discovered that's true about everything.   you can present thousands of years of archaeological evidence, written texts, histories, artifacts, even science, to corroborate something and have people stick their noses up at it but swallow the flimiest of evidence on a subject they are more inclined to believe.

Don't you that, if it's presented as going against mainstream science, it's automatically considered a "truth that is hidden by the PTB".   

The need for being considered against "mainstream" (either government, science, religion or favourite club) that some people have is so common and strong that I think psychology must have a name for that.

[zorgon]

Don't you knowthat, if it's presented as going against mainstream science, it's automatically considered a "truth that is hidden by the PTB".   

Don't you know that mainstream science gets to say something and just because someone has a PhD on their name they are 'experts'

I just found a site... (making a thread) that I had never heard of before its almost as old as Gobeki Tepi  In the first three paragraphs they say "we have no Idea... etc" but then they 'guess' it was a temple. The word temple is used 23 times in those paragraphs

Mainstream also tends to stuff things in a box if it messes up their pet theory. Baghdad batteries is a prime example... stuffed awy in a basement forgotten...

Oddly enough those are now "looted' as well 

[undo11]

i had a conversation with an egyptologist, regarding the osirieon at abydos, egypt.  she insisted that Seti I had created it because that's what they teach in university archaeology classes and related mainstream egyptology texts.  i proved to her that that was incorrect.  she was gracious enough to admit it, too.   

[undo11]

i have a real doozy of a theory, i'm pondering making thread on, entitled DID CLEOPATRA FAKE HER OWN DEATH?
i think she did. 

[COSMO]

I saw a show at least 20 years ago and they filmed a location where hundreds of coils and spirals had been found in some extremely remote place in Russia or Siberia.  Some of the wire in the coils was 1/4 of an inch in diameter, there were many sizes.  I can't find any mention of this on the web, does anybody else remember this?  What will we really know when the only source of information we have is the digital media?  Then it will be very easy to change or delete information that somebody does not want you to know about.  I wish I could find a copy of that video.

Michael Cremo's book FORBIDDEN ARCHEOLOGY  has some interesting artifacts too.  Speaking of the Antikythera Mechanism, they did take some very good xrays of it.  This device was constructed around 80 BC.  Finely crafted metal gears, combined to create a sophisticated celestial computer.  Not the state of the art that we were taught existed in that time period in school.  I wonder what else that they had, what else  did they create thousands of years ago that is still in existence today, but hidden?

http://www.xtekxray.com/applications/antikythera_images.html











OK, the next to last one was found somewhere  else!  lol   

[COSMO]

Here ya go.  This seems credible...and it's recent news.

Research that could set humanity back 20,000 years: Ornaments and tools show that Modern Man emerged 44,000 years ago (much earlier than we thought)

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2181138/Research-set-humanity-20-000-years-Ornaments-tools-Modern-Man-emerged-44-000-years-ago-earlier-thought.html#ixzz22XroU1TM



Human behaviour, as we know it, emerged 44,000 years ago - much earlier than previously thought, according to a new study.





Doctor Lucinda Backwell, senior researcher in in South Africa, said: 'The dating and analysis of archaeological material discovered at Border Cave in South Africa has allowed us to demonstrate that many elements of material culture that characterise the lifestyle of San hunter-gatherers were part of the culture and technology of the inhabitants of this site 44,000 years ago.'