Air Force Official Says 2 UFO Crashes at Roswell and One Was Shot Down

[COSMO]

There were TWO UFO crashes at Roswell, claims former Air Force official who says he was there

There were actually two crashes at Roswell, which most people don't know,' French told The Huffington Post.

'The first one was shot down by an experimental U.S. airplane that was flying out of White Sands, New Mexico, and it shot what was effectively an electronic pulse-type weapon that disabled and took away all the controls of the UFO, and that's why it crashed.

With video:

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2184586/Roswell-incident-There-TWO-UFO-crashes-Roswell-says-Air-Force-official.html#ixzz22o16SNEs

Very interesting story!  I do wonder about airborne EMP weapons in 1947.     I guess it could have been done with the technology at the time. 

[robomont]

its possible?
the idea i believe is that we had a very strong radar on the mexico border.the craft blew into two parts.one part was the craft and the other part was command and control.
of course there could be a strong radar on the plane.probably broad spectrum.for targetting?

[Pimander]

EM pulse could include radar.  RADAR is EM.  Maybe it was possible.  Rumours have circulated for years that RADAR brought down ET craft.

[The Matrix Traveller]

EM pulse could include radar.  RADAR is EM.  Maybe it was possible.  Rumours have circulated for years that RADAR brought down ET craft.

If you look into both "Side Wave" Radar Systems and "The Wood Pecker"
("Over the Horizon" Radar Systems) AWACS technologies etc. more understanding
will manifest itself re. the connection with many other weapon based technologies.

Also be aware, much of what is Claimed to be "Satellite Communications" is actually
of Ground based HF and UHF transmissions and NOT from Satellites at all.

Just part of the Drama, put on by the human species.

[sky otter]

mostly the same info..long version  plus same U Tube plus a few more
from

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/03/roswell-ufo-crash_n_1715663.html






Roswell UFO Crash: There Were 2 Crashes, Not 1, Says Ex-Air Force Official
Posted: 08/06/2012 9:30 am Updated: 08/06/2012 10:35 am

The 1947 UFO controversy of Roswell, N.M. is like a bad penny: It keeps turning up.

The legend, rehashed by conspiracy theorists in countless documentaries, revolves around allegations that an unusual object fell from the sky -- an object so bizarre that the U.S. Air Force issued a press release that a flying saucer had crashed.

That story was quickly recanted, creating what would become one of the greatest urban legends in American history.

Until now, most debunkers doubted that there was even one crash. Now, in an exclusive interview, retired Air Force Lt. Col. Richard French told The Huffington Post that there were actually two crashes.

This revelation is especially remarkable considering that French was known in the past to debunk UFO stories.


"There were actually two crashes at Roswell, which most people don't know," French told HuffPost. "The first one was shot down by an experimental U.S. airplane that was flying out of White Sands, N.M., and it shot what was effectively an electronic pulse-type weapon that disabled and took away all the controls of the UFO, and that's why it crashed."

French -- an Air Force pilot who was in Alamagordo, N.M., in 1947, being tested in an altitude chamber, an annual requirement for rated officers -- was very specific in how the military allegedly brought down what he believes was a spacecraft from another world.

"When they hit it with that electromagnetic pulse -- bingo! -- there goes all their electronics and, consequently, the UFO was uncontrollable," said French, who flew hundreds of combat missions in Korea and Southeast Asia, and who held several positions working for Military Intelligence.

Another retired officer doubts French's story.

"No chance! Zero chance!" said Army Col. John Alexander,
http://www.johnbalexander.com/ufophenomenology
whose own top-secret clearance gave him access in the 1980s to official documents and UFO accounts. He created a top-level group of government officials and scientists who determined that, while UFOs are real, they couldn't find evidence of an official cover-up.

"In the 1980s, I was the guy developing all of the pulse-power weapons systems. We couldn't have done it then. In the 60s, they had a laser system, but your range was extremely limited, and we didn't have operational laser weapons in that time frame," said Alexander, who is working to get amnesty for military personnel who wish to talk about their UFO experiences.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/16/ufo-amnesty-sought-by-army-colonel_n_1513197.html

Except for the initial newspaper headline declaring the military had captured a flying saucer outside of Roswell, the Air Force closed the books on Roswell, claiming that the true identity of the object was a high-altitude surveillance balloon, code-named "Mogul."

But after eyewitnesses -- including numerous military personnel -- began to tell stories of their participation in an alleged cover-up of the Roswell incident, some researchers insisted that it was, in fact, an alien ship that crashed at Roswell.

French says he was told about the UFO "shootdown" by another military officer -- a confidential source -- from White Sands Proving Grounds, an area of the New Mexico desert where the U.S. military tested many weapons systems.

His source told French there was a second UFO crash near Roswell a few days after the first one.

"It was within a few miles of where the original crash was," French said. "We think that the reason they were in there at that time was to try and recover parts and any survivors of the first crash. I'm [referring to] the people from outer space -- the guys whose UFO it was."

While French offered no further details on what he says was a second UFO crash, he teased something else.

"I had seen photographs of parts of the UFO that had inscriptions on it that looked like it was in an Arabic language -- it was like a part number on each one of them. They were photographs in a folder that I just thumbed through."

That's an interesting parallel to the recent story of ex-CIA agent Chase Brandon, who claimed he found a box at CIA headquarters in the 1990s -- a box labeled "Roswell."

Brandon told HuffPost he looked in the box and went through written materials and photographs confirming his suspicions that the object which crashed at Roswell, "was a craft that clearly did not come from this planet."

That story set off a fury of controversy between those who believed and didn't believe Brandon's story.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/08/roswell-ufo-cia-agent-chase-brandon_n_1657077.html

Watch this 1997 news report on the Air Force's 'Case Closed: Final Report on the Roswell Crash'



And now we have French, who served more than 27 years in the military, including as an investigator and debunker for the Air Force's famous study of UFOs, known as Project Blue Book, which began in 1947.

"I'm one of the authors of Project Blue Book,
http://www.archives.gov/foia/ufos.html
and started with the Air Force Office of Special Investigations, stationed in Spokane, Wash. One of the duties I had in 1952 was to debunk UFO stories," French said.

"In other words, if someone had a UFO sighting, I and another agent would try to come up with some logical explanation for this strange aerial appearance. Most of the reports were from civilians than military. We gave our analysis and tried to debunk it by saying it was swamp fog or that the thing they saw was actually hanging on wires. It went up through channels all the way to the presidential level."

But why was French ordered to debunk UFO reports in the first place?

"They never give you an explanation, but I'll tell you what my analysis of it is: If they accepted the fact that there are creatures coming to Earth from other universes or from wherever, it basically would destroy religions, and the fact that our military's helpless against them would destroy the reputation of the military," French said. "You're talking about military, national defense and religious reasons."

As it often turns out with eye-opening UFO stories, it comes down to who you believe.

Antonio Huneeus is a 30-year veteran UFO investigative reporter
http://www.openminds.tv/antonio-huneeus/
who recently spent time with French and is trying to uncover more facts about the information the former Military Intelligence officer would have us believe.

"We did a search and found his name on an official Air Force page
http://www.afhra.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=9881
that confirmed he was a combat pilot, but that page had nothing to do with UFOs," Huneeus, editor of Open Minds Magazine, told HuffPost.

"My reservations are about some of the claims that he makes, and because of his age, his memory isn't as good as it used to be," Huneeus said. "It's clear to me that he's fairly well read on the subject of UFOs, or he might have heard stories or talked to people. So, I'm trying to separate exactly what he lived and saw directly from what he heard and read."

Sixty years after French began investigating UFOs for Project Blue Book, he still thinks there's a cover-up.

"It's going on today. There's no question about it. I've listened to their denials many times and, at that time, I was in direct opposition to their position. In my mind, there wasn't any question that UFOs were real."

[sky otter]

   time to debunk the debunker? ? ?



http://devoid.blogs.heraldtribune.com/13175/snatching-flies-out-of-mid-air/

De Void
Snatching flies out of mid-air
Wednesday, August 1, 2012 at 2:27 by Billy Cox No doubt the 6004th Air Intelligence Service Squadron was an elite kickass unit. Formed in 1951 during the Korean War and headquartered in Japan, the 6004th sent its operatives behind enemy lines, interrogated POWs, analyzed gun-cam footage and examined foreign technology, among many other things. As retired USAF colonel and historian Michael Haas wrote, its skills "were so unique that never since has the U.S. Air Force attempted — or been allowed to — duplicate an organization like the wartime 6004th AISS."

So when one of its former members steps forward with allegations about UFOs, it demands at least some cursory attention. He identified himself as retired USAF lieutenant colonel Dick French. Here's what he told veteran UFO investigator Antonio Huneeus earlier this year.

Did you catch that? Not only was French's job to systematically debunk UFOs, but in the process he covered up the explosion of a jet interceptor as it attempted to open fire on a bogie maneuvering near the Hanford nuclear facility. Obviously this is huge.

But the clip raised red flags as well, not the least of which was French's having met the late Army lieutenant colonel Philip Corso, author of the egregiously flawed The Day After Roswell, "right after that incident happened in New Mexico," he told Huneeus. French said Corso had pieces of UFO debris — in 1947 — that were shipped to Wright-Patterson AFB for analysis before being forwarded to Area 51. Which was a little weird because Corso, in his book, claimed he was in Fort Riley, Kan., during the Roswell controversy, where he saw unguarded alien bodies in storage. Corso wrote that the first time he handled the debris was in 1960, when it was in Army custody.

Huneeus was able to find a fact sheet from the USAF's 25th Fighter Squadron indicating one Lt. Col. Richard E. French had been a unit commander in 1971, but he was still vetting French's background with AISS. There have been no followups, and De Void can understand why — reality verification is wretched, tedious, thankless, and (for De Void) just not worth the freakin' effort.


Every now and then, it's best to just be a critic and leave the truth-seeking to others ... /CREDIT: netanimations.net
Huneeus' video stated French lived near Sedona, Ariz. De Void called the only Richard E. French listing in the area. The Richard E. French who picked up said he was retired Navy, not Air Force, and had no idea who Huneeus was. Great!

De Void noodled through the 6004th AISS veterans' chat room and contacted retired airman Stanford Lee of Fresno, Calif. Lee had never heard of French but said he'd make a few calls. A couple of days later: "Nobody I've spoken with knew him at the 6004th." Or from anywhere else? "No." Whee!

De Void then found some video interviews Dick French granted to a UK production company during an International UFO Congress in Arizona 2008. It was apparently the same Dick French that Huneeus had interviewed, but an expanded version. This Dick French not only investigated UFOs, he participated in "advanced ionic studies" and cancer research, had a masters degree in fine arts specializing in Shakespeare, he had a doctorate in philosophy, was "trained" in astrophysics, and he refused to use his G.I. Bill because he wanted to pay his own way through college.

He said he was also involved with military mind-control experiments. French asked an interviewer if he (the interviewer) knew what a psychomanteum was. The interviewer said no. "Basically," French replied, "it's a damn pyramid, like a tent made from canvas and metal poles. "You sit in there and put yourself in a meditative state and it's supposed to increase what you know and you're supposed to draw power." This is breaking news, because for centuries, the traditional psychomanteum has been a specially designed room where practitioners stare into mirrors in hopes of contacting the dead through reflections.

But at this point, screw it, De Void's really tired out and doesn't care anymore. Besides, truth is increasingly overrated and irrelevant. And there's so little money in it.










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[biggles]

I just want to remark on one quote in the OP, that if it was to be known that ufos were real or ETS real it would destroy all religions.

I have heard this before and I honestly cannot see why that should be so, but I will wait to see what other people might post first.

[The Matrix Traveller]

Just a Comment I would like to make.

There are 2 Classifications of alien Craft that have come into our Airspace at times.

(1.)    Mechanical based... (Involving Craft Crewed by a Species who interfered
with our Genetics some 5,500 years ago) and have Crashed on Earth
in the past and no doubt will in the future.

and
(2.)    Craft which are "Transport Interfaces" which are impossible to shoot down,
and involve a benevolent alien Species, unlike those who interbred
with the Human Species during the last 5,500 years or so.

These Craft Interface with the "Environment Program".

They do NOT use any form of  Propulsion nor do the use any form of Electronics,
nor do they use Gravity or any Energy based systems.

They rely on "Programming" within the main Construct, All is displayed through.

There is also WAR "Outside" the Earth but inside this little Universe, involving these species
who operate Craft mentioned in type (1.)

They also try to attack those mentioned in type (2.)

Sadly, Species of type (1.) still have breeding programs, involving species on Earth today.

They are also into trying to produce "Hybrid Species".

This is because these aliens do NOT have LIFE, and because they do Not know
what LIFE is, believe the Human Species is Living and think they can Breed Life into their species
from the Human Species.

These Undesirable Species are responsible for making sure Gov. keep the UFO Phenomena
out of the Public domain as much as possible.

The Gov. is NOT at Fault and are just Terrified of this Species of Alien.

Salvage and "Back Engineering" of alien Craft involves type (1.) Craft and NOT type (2.)

It is impossible for type (2.) to malfunction, crash or be destroyed by Any weaponry.

Much assistance in "Alien Tech." comes from those operating type (1.) Craft.

[Pimander]

• I agree that there is a group of ETs that have "mechanical" (physical?) craft.
• I also agree that there is a class (as opposed to specific species) that it is possible to interact with using certain esoteric, mystical, remote viewing and other techniques.  This class of being has been mistakenly referred to as Gods by many cultures although it is easy to see why due to what seem like miraculous powers.
• I have no definite idea about their respective roles in human affairs or whether they are benevolent.
• I have evidence but no proof regarding the existence of both.

[The Matrix Traveller]

I agree that there is a group of ETs that have "mechanical" (physical?) craft.
I also agree that there is a class (as opposed to specific species) that it is possible to interact with using certain esoteric, mystical, remote viewing and other techniques.  This class of being has been mistakenly referred to as Gods by many cultures although it is easy to see why due to what seem like miraculous powers.

IMO You are 100% Correct.   

[Pimander]

IMO You are 100% Correct.   

Looks as though some of us are on the same page regarding "aliens".