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Started by burntheships, August 16, 2012, 04:36:52 AM

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burntheships

You dont want to miss this, just released documentary by
Special Forces and Navy Seals,
calling out Obama on his leaks, and
his bragging and deceptions


On the campaign trail, Obama is emphasizing how
he presided over the killing of bin Laden, as well as
how  he ended the war in Iraq.

OPSECTeam sets the record straight,
and if you ever wanted to hear someone speak up 
this is the real deal!


You really really dont want to miss this, and make
sure you watch to the end,
well at least till about 19:40


Mr. President, shut the bleep up!

QuoteIntelligence and Special Operations forces are furious and frustrated at how President Obama and those in positions of authority have exploited their service for political advantage. Countless leaks, interviews and decisions by the Obama Administration and other government officials have undermined the success of our Intelligence and Special Operations forces and put future missions and personnel at risk.

The unwarranted and dangerous public disclosure of Special Forces Operations is so serious -- that for the first time ever -- former operators have agreed to risk their reputations and go 'on the record' in a special documentary titled "Dishonorable Disclosures." Its goal is to educate America about serious breaches of security and prevent them from ever happening again.




Special OPs group exposed Obama over bin Laden bragging, leaks;
http://news.yahoo.com/special-ops-group-attacks-obama-over-bin-laden-011757844.html
"This is the Documentary Channel"
- Zorgon

rdunk

BTS, THIS IS A GREAT VIDEO. Anybody, with any sense at all, should easily understand how important it is to maintain operational secrecy, for actions such as described here.

Most any numbskull, that is even allowed access to U.S. classified information, must first obtain the required clearances, for the levels of classification. And to get those clearances, an individual must "swear" to meet all elements of security requirements. And, I am fairly certain that any intentional violations would come under Federal offense laws.

All of these people, including the President have violated the existing laws of this country, and should be charged with the maximum, for all of their intentional security violations. This president, or any other, is for sure not above the law, especially when he intentionally breaks the law.

We all should be sending this video out to everyone on our mailing lists!! The brave men pf our country deserve our help and our support. Their lives are at stake on a daily basis!!!




biggles

I would have really liked to have liked Obama but I get the feeling that most presidents are already elected before their elected, its just the people that dont know.

Put em on the front line and tell them to go for it.
I know that I know nothing - thanks Capricorn.

A51Watcher

#3

President Obummer did what?  :o

Oh say it aint so!





biggles

#4
If he had a half a brain he would keep his mouth shut.

I watched a doco the other night of a 19 year old British boy who got engaged just before he went to Afghanistan I think it was.  Two weeks in and he was blown up and came back minus two legs and one arm.

Nineteen - in the end his fiancee couldnt carry him up the stairs anymore and left.

Now there are a lot of young soldiers returning home like this - for friggin what - their young lives destroyed because of pre elected politicians who have only one agenda in mind and it aint to our benefit.
I know that I know nothing - thanks Capricorn.

biggles

This is what happened to a different 19 year old, happens everyday do the bloody politicians care............



I know that I know nothing - thanks Capricorn.

burntheships

Quote from: rdunk on August 16, 2012, 05:24:16 AM
This president, or any other, is for sure not above the law, especially when he intentionally breaks the law.





Rdunk, right on. I think you will approve of this message.

More new oppostion!

Quote"There's a lot of reasons you can release classified information, a lot of justifiable reasons, but making a movie for political gain isn't one of them," Mr. Zinke said.

According to Mr. Zinke, there are currently at least four other anti-Obama groups made up of former elite military operatives: Special Operations Speaks, Veterans for a Strong America, Special Operations OPSEC Education Fund Inc. and his group, Special Operations for America. He said he expects that number to climb. Because active-duty soldiers are barred from engaging in political activity, Mr. Zinke believes it is especially important for retired military personnel to speak up.

"It's really incumbent upon the retired guys to articulate a message. You look at the approval ratings of the president, Congress is in single-digits, the president is not far behind, and I think Americans still appreciate the credibility of our military," he said.
http://politicker.com/2012/08/seal-assault-just-beginning/
"This is the Documentary Channel"
- Zorgon

burntheships

Quote from: biggles on August 16, 2012, 05:35:27 AM

Now there are a lot of young soldiers returning home like this - for friggin what - their young lives destroyed because of pre elected politicians who have only one agenda in mind and it aint to our benefit.

Biggles, I so much appreciate your comments, and agree.

I am not a pacifist, so defense in one thing. However this
game they are playing now is for keeps, and not in a fair sense.

And thats not even getting me started on the Drone wars.

:'(
"This is the Documentary Channel"
- Zorgon

Sgt.Rocknroll

Did you expect anything less from the leftist elitists in charge now...Scum of the earth....
Non nobis, Domine, non nobis, sed nomini Tuo da gloriam

stealthyaroura

fully agree! some things are best kept from the public AS WELL as TPTB!
as for that dumb ass nobama leaking sensitive info taking the credit also?what a tit.
Any one else would be locked up under the official secrets act or similar.
There all the same these politicians, if i had my way i would have the lot of them shot.
Nikola Tesla humanitarian / Genius.
never forget this great man who gave so much
& asked for nothing but to let electricity be free for all.

sky otter



more and more are speaking out




Bin Laden Raid Book: First-Hand Account Of Navy SEAL Mission Will Be Released On Sept. 11
By HILLEL ITALIE and LOLITA C. BALDOR 08/22/12 06:43 PM ET 

WASHINGTON — A member of the U.S. Navy SEAL team that killed Osama bin Laden has written a firsthand account of the operation, triggering more questions about the possible public release of classified information involving the historic assault of the terror leader's compound in Pakistan.

U.S. military officials say they do not believe the book has been read or cleared by the Defense Department, which reviews publications by military members to make sure that no classified material is revealed.

The book, titled "No Easy Day" and scheduled to be released next month on the 11th anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, comes amid a heated debate over whether members of the military – both active duty and retired – should engage in political battles.

"I haven't read the book and am unaware that anyone in the Department has reviewed it," said Pentagon press secretary George Little. White House and CIA officials also said the book had not been reviewed by their agencies.

The book announcement comes just as a group of retired special operations and CIA officers have launched a campaign accusing President Barack Obama of revealing classified details of the mission and turning the killing of bin Laden into a campaign centerpiece. The group complains that Obama has taken too much credit for the operation.

Their public complaints drew a rebuke from Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, as well as other special operations forces, who called the partisan criticism unprofessional.

Dempsey said that such public political involvement by members of armed services erodes public confidence and trust in the military.

The author of the upcoming bin Laden book, who has left the military, is using the pseudonym Mark Owen. And in a news release from publisher Dutton, an imprint of Penguin Group (USA), Owen describes the book as an effort to "set the record straight about one of the most important missions in U.S. military history."

He said the book is about "the guys" and the sacrifices that the special operations forces make to do the job and is written in the hope that it will inspire young men to become SEALs.

If the book sticks to his personal thoughts about the job and the mission, Owen may be in the clear. But often special operations forces must sign nondisclosure agreements. And they are not allowed to release classified information, such as intelligence data or military tactics and procedures used to ensure success of the May 2011 raid.

Christine Ball, a spokeswoman for Dutton, said the work was vetted by a former special operations attorney provided by the author.

"He vetted it for tactical, technical and procedural information as well as information that could be considered classified by compilation and found it to be without risk to national security," Ball said.

Defense Department spokesman Lt. Col. James Gregory said that if the book reveals classified information about the raid, the Pentagon would "defer to the Department of Justice."

According to Pentagon regulations, retired personnel, former employees and non-active duty members of the Reserves "shall use the DoD security review process to ensure that information they submit for public release does not compromise national security."

The CIA also could weigh in because the agency ran the secret bin Laden mission.

If there is classified information in the book, the former SEAL could face criminal charges. And even if he donates the money to charity, for instance, that is unlikely to prevent the Justice Department from suing to collect any future book proceeds.

Earlier this year, a federal judge ruled a CIA whistle-blower had to forfeit future money he earned from a scathing book he wrote about the spy agency after he failed to get approval from his former employer before publication.

The CIA accused the officer of breaking his secrecy agreement with the U.S. The former officer, who worked deep undercover, published the book in July 2008 using the pseudonym Ishmael Jones.

The CIA said his book, "The Human Factor: Inside the CIA's Dysfunctional Intelligence Culture," was submitted to the agency's publications review board under a secrecy agreement that covers books written by former employees. But Jones, who published the book before the review process was completed, said it contained no classified information.

In 2010, the Defense Department claimed a former Army intelligence officer's war memoir threatened national security. The Pentagon paid $47,000 to destroy 9,500 copies of the book, called "Operation Dark Heart: Spycraft and Special Ops on the Frontlines of Afghanistan – and the Path to Victory."

The book was written by Anthony Shaffer, whose lawyer said the Army Reserve cleared the manuscript beforehand but the Defense Department later rescinded the approval, claiming the text contained classified information.

Shaffer and the publisher agreed to remove the material.

Dutton, which announced the book's pending release Wednesday, is planning a major first print run of 300,000 copies, Ball said. The co-author, journalist Kevin Maurer, has worked on four previous books.

___

Associated Press writers Ted Bridis, Kimberly Dozier and Adam Goldman contributed to this report. Italie reported from New York.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/22/bin-laden-raid-book_n_1822628.html

sky otter

 :(

Fox News said on Thursday that it had identified the real identity of the Navy SEAL who is writing a book about his participation in the raid that killed Osama bin Laden. The Associated Press later confirmed the report.

The forthcoming publication of the book, titled "No Easy Day," was announced on Wednesday. It will be released on September 11, and has not been vetted or cleared by the Pentagon. The author is using a pseudonym, Mark Owen.

But on Thursday, Fox News ran an item with what it claimed was the author's true name, Matt Bissonnette. It even named the town where he lives. The network cited "multiple sources" in its reporting. The AP later ran a similar report, citing current and former military officials.

The Navy SEALs who killed bin Laden have previously been left unidentified.

The Fox News report led to a rebuke from Nation magazine writer Jeremy Scahill — hardly a knee-jerk supporter of the U.S. military:


@jeremyscahill
jeremy scahill
Why on earth would FOX News publish the alleged identity of one of the ST6 members who was in the OBL raid? Seriously.
August 23, 2012 3:52 pm via web Reply Retweet Favorite
And Gawker's John Cook linked to a Fox News report from 2011, chastising Gawker for attempting to uncover the identity of a CIA agent involved in the raid.


In response, Penguin, the company publishing the book, issued a statement to the New York Times. It said that the author faced "obvious risks to his personal security" by writing "No Easy Day," and that this was the only reason it was being published with a pseudonym.

"We respectfully request that all news organizations and all Americans consider these facts when deciding whether to pursue or publicize his real identity," the statement concluded.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/23/fox-news-navy-seal-bin-laden_n_1825146.html

stealthyaroura

Nikola Tesla humanitarian / Genius.
never forget this great man who gave so much
& asked for nothing but to let electricity be free for all.

sky otter



Ex-Navy SEAL faces legal jeopardy for writing about bin Laden raid

By Pete Williams
NBC News
What legal consequences could a former U.S. Navy SEAL face for writing a book about the still-classified 2011 raid that killed Osama bin Laden? 

Legal experts say the author could face trouble on two fronts -- a civil lawsuit for not seeking a military review before the book was published and possible criminal prosecution for revealing classified information.

But a former Justice Department national security lawyer, Pat Rowan, said the government might be reluctant to prosecute a man who helped kill America's No. 1 terrorist enemy, unless the book reveals highly valuable and sensitive intelligence secrets.

"What's more, if the government did decide to prosecute, the author's lawyer would be entitled to dig into the information that was disclosed by the White House and other officials, in both sanctioned and unsanctioned leaks," Rowan said.

Rowan was referring to the fact that President Barack Obama and other administration officials have been accused by Republicans of leaking details of the bin Laden raid for political gain.

Dutton, a subsidiary of Penguin Group USA, announced on Wednesday that the book, titled "No Easy Day: The Firsthand Account of the Mission That Killed Osama bin Laden," would go on sale on Sept. 11. The author, who will be identified only by a pseudonym, "was one of the first men through the door on the third floor of the terrorist leader's hideout and was present at his death," it said in a statement.

A similar case arose in the 1970s, when a former CIA officer named Frank Snepp published a book about his activities in Vietnam.

The U.S. government sued on the grounds that he did not seek pre-publication review -- as he was obligated to do under an agreement he signed as a condition of employment -- and lower courts agreed to a demand that all the profits from the book be turned over to the government. By a vote of 6-3, the U.S. Supreme Court agreed, even though the government never claimed the book revealed classified information.

"When a former agent relies on his own judgment about what information is detrimental, he may reveal information that the CIA -- with its broader understanding of what may expose classified information and confidential sources -- could have identified as harmful," the court said.

These days, said former Homeland Security official Stewart Baker, most government non-disclosure agreements say that if pre-publication review isn't sought, the profits must be forfeited. Legal experts doubt, however, that the government could stop publication of the book.

The author could also be charged with violating federal laws that make it a crime for government employees to reveal classified information.  Anyone given a security clearance is bound for life by its non-disclosure terms, so the fact that the former SEAL is no longer in the military would not free him from the obligation to keep government secrets to himself.

A DOJ official who spoke with NBC News on condition of anonymity on Thursday said he knew of no legal action against the former SEAL. That process would most likely start with a request from the Defense Department and, so far as the official knew, none had been made. DOD would have to verify that the book revealed government secrets before making such a request, the official said.

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sky otter


yeah like this was unexpected...geeeeze



Al-Qaida linked websites threaten ex-Navy SEAL turned author with 'destruction'

By Mike Brunker and Jim Miklaszewski
NBC News
Users on several militant Islamic websites affiliated with al-Qaida have posted the name and photo of a former Navy SEAL identified as the author of an upcoming book on the commando raid that killed Osama bin Laden. The posts called for his "destruction" in revenge for the al-Qaida founder's killing.

"We pray to Allah for his destruction sooner rather than later," said one of the posts.

"Oh Allah, make an example of him for the whole world and give him dark days ahead," read another.

Among the website publishing the death threats was the "Al-Fidaa" web forum, which al-Qaida uses to distribute its media and public communications, said Evan Kohlmann, an NBC News consultant and a terrorism analyst at Flashpoint Partners, a global security firm.

The source of the photo, which appears to show a special operations soldier in leveling an automatic rifle during a training exercise, was not immediately clear.

"Here is the first picture of the dog who murdered the martyr Shaykh Usama Bin Laden," wrote one of the posters, using an alternate spelling of bin Laden's name. "May Allah have mercy on him."

Fox News on Thursday identified the author of the book, which is titled "No Easy Day: The Firsthand Account of the Mission That Killed Osama bin Laden," as a 36-year-old former SEAL from Wrangell, Alaska. The Associated Press later said it had confirmed the author's identity. (NBC News is not identifying the former SEAL.) 

Penguin Group (USA)'s Dutton imprint, the publisher, asked news organizations Thursday to withhold his identity.

"Sharing the true story of his personal experience in 'No Easy Day' is a courageous act in the face of obvious risks to his personal security," Dutton spokeswoman Christine Ball said in a statement to the AP. "That personal security is the sole reason the book is being published under a pseudonym."

In addition to death threats, the author faces legal jeopardy over his decision not to seek pre-publication review by Pentagon officials of his account of the May 2, 2011, raid on bin Laden's compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, as he was obligated to do under an agreement he signed as a condition of employment.

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On Thursday, the ex-SEAL's former commander, special operations chief Adm. Bill McRaven warned his troops, current and former, that he would take legal action against anyone found to have exposed sensitive information that could cause fellow forces harm.

"We will pursue every option available to hold members accountable, including criminal prosecution where appropriate," the four-star commander wrote, in an open, unclassified letter emailed to the active-duty special operations community Thursday, and obtained by The Associated Press.

The author of "No Easy Day" is slated to appear on the CBS News program "60 Minutes" on Sept. 9, though it is not clear whether he will identified by his real name. The book is already listed as one of the top 10 books on Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble.com.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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