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My Inescapable Conclusion: The Freemasons are Monsters

Started by petrus4, August 18, 2012, 08:55:54 AM

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petrus4

Quote from: thorfourwinds on August 19, 2012, 02:36:08 PM
There are probably many more peeps following this thread than apparent,

"They are not all accounted for, the lost seeing stones. We do not know who else may be watching."
    —Gandalf, The Fellowship of the Ring

This is something which I truthfully should have been more cautious of, on Above Top Secret.  It is tantalising to speculate, who else perhaps might have been provoked by my controversy, but who did not comment; over and above those who I did hear from. ;)
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

Lunica

Free masons, code 144, coral castle.

From a thread in 2008 at ATS ;)

Interesting video, sometimes bad music...,  8)


sky otter

 ;D ;)

why should we jump in only to inflame
when
mighty Zorg can douse the flames with true intell and humor


an applauding observer  ;D


Littleenki

Quote from: sky otter on August 19, 2012, 03:46:34 PM
;D ;)

why should we jump in only to inflame
when
mighty Zorg can douse the flames with true intell and humor


an applauding observer  ;D


Mornin, Queen of the Otters!;)

So true, Sky, we oft see the obvious and forget about the ones in the shadows watching our enrichening or our unravelling with an eye for our behaviour which can only be described as sorry and sad.

We should all, myself included, be aware of the impact of our outwardly devices, and realize those who may not be a part of the physical conversation, have every bit of right to deserve a quality discussion laid out for the betterment of us all.

As for these secret societies and such, many of us strike out at them, again, myself included, without first doing the deepest of research into the whole picture, and seeing how there are two sides to every book and story.

Zorgon has shown us that with just a little effort we can shift perceptions of certain things with the effort every subject deserves.

Pegasus, RESEARCH Consortium...I, as well as all, need to remember that center word, and live our lives by it if we are to advance even one small step back from lemming cliff.

This short thread has enlightened many Im sure, and will continue to do so, as a growing entity of truth and understanding.

Cheers,
Le

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Ellirium113

Quote from: petrus4 on August 19, 2012, 06:45:43 AM
I accept Zorgon's response to me.  My initial post in this thread was ego based.  This post is a re-write of an initial response to him, which was similarly ego-based, and I realised that removal of it was appropriate.

I accept, also, his charge of hypocrisy.  I need to work on figuring out how to serve my own intended purpose, without anger, and without egotism.  An excess of passion is an ongoing problem of mine; truthfully, it always has been.

I have been observing this thread for a couple of days. I really don't know a lot about the teachings etc. of the secret societies but what I think is that there are so many of these secret societies you may have inadvertently bundled them all into a general Illuminati group. They are not. I believe that YES there is a group that does NOT have humanities interest at heart in their belief on how they world SHOULD be. Some of the teachings might even be the same as the other groups but the overall use of those teachings may be geared more to our demise than to actually help us. An example of this would be the Skull & Bones society. IMO you need to look at more groups and not bundle them in one basket. I don't think this was an ego thing so much as it was simply not researched as much as it should have been before you reached your conclusion.

petrus4

Quote from: Ellirium113 on August 19, 2012, 04:36:16 PM
An example of this would be the Skull & Bones society. IMO you need to look at more groups and not bundle them in one basket. I don't think this was an ego thing so much as it was simply not researched as much as it should have been before you reached your conclusion.

This is good advice.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

Littleenki

#81
Heres a short list of prominent members of the Skull and Bones from the 40's onward.

Check out some of the names within you recognize and think of their achievements versus their evil deeds, then look to some which arent so familiar and imagine how theyve impacted us through the years...lets get to work Petrus!:D


1940s

McGeorge Bundy (1940), Special Assistant for National Security Affairs; National Security Advisor; Professor of History, brother of William Bundy[3]:53

Andrew Downey Orrick (1940), acting chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission[99]

Barry Zorthian (1941), American diplomat, most notably press officer in Saigon for 4-1/2 years during Vietnam War[3]:173[100][101]

David Acheson (1943), author, lawyer, son of Dean Acheson[3]:188

Harold Harris Healy, Jr. (1943), lawyer, partner Debevoise & Plimpton[2]

James L. Buckley (1944), U.S. Senator (R-New York 1971–1977) and brother of William F. Buckley, Jr.[3]:168, 174[102][103]

John Bannister Goodenough (1944), solid-state physicist at the University of Texas at Austin[104]

Townsend Walter Hoopes II (1944), historian, Under Secretary of the Air Force (1967–69)[3]:188

William Singer Moorhead (1944), US Representative from Pennsylvania[71][105]

James Whitmore (1944), actor[106]

John Chafee (1947), U.S. Senator, Secretary of the Navy and Governor of Rhode Island, father of Lincoln Chafee[3]:168, 171

Josiah Augustus Spaulding (1947), lawyer, partner Bingham Dana & Gould[107]

Charles S. Whitehouse (1947), CIA Agent (1947–1956), U.S. Ambassador to Laos and Thailand in the 1970s.[3]:174

Thomas William Ludlow Ashley (1948), US Representative from Ohio[3]:167–72

George H. W. Bush (1948), 41st President of the United States, 11th Director of Central Intelligence, son of Prescott Bush, father of George W. Bush. His Skull and Bones nickname was "Magog".[3]:167–8[108]

William Sloane Coffin (1949), CIA agent (1950–1953), clergyman and peace activist[3]:127, 196

Daniel Pomeroy Davison (1949), banker, president United States Trust Corporation[109]

Tony Lavelli (1949), basketball player[3]:169[110]

David McCord Lippincott (1949), novelist and composer[111]

Charles Edwin Lord II (1949), banker, Vice-Chairman of the Export-Import Bank of the United States[112]


1950s

William F. Buckley, Jr. (1950), founder of National Review,[3]:41 former CIA officer

William Henry Draper III (1950), Chair of United Nations Development Programme and Export-Import Bank of the United States[3]:174–5, 179

Evan G. Galbraith (1950), US Ambassador to France; managing director of Morgan Stanley[3]:181, 187[113]

Thomas Henry Guinzburg (1950), president Viking Press[114]

Victor William Henningsen, Jr. (1950), president Henningsen Foods Inc.[115]

Raymond Price (1951), speechwriter for Presidents Nixon, Ford, and Bush.[3]:173

Fergus Reid Buckley (1952), author and public speaker[2]

Charles Sherman Haight, Jr. (1952), Connecticut District Court judge[2]

Jonathan James Bush (1953), banker, son of Prescott Bush[3]:145, 179

William H. Donaldson (1953), appointed chairman of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission by George W. Bush; founding dean of Yale School of Management; co-founder of DLJ investment firm[3]:166, 173[116]

John Birnie Marshall (1953), Olympic medal-winning swimmer[2]

James Price McLane (1953), Olympic medal-winning swimmer[117]

George Herbert Walker III (1953), US Ambassador to Hungary[3]:164

David McCullough (1955), U.S. historian; two-time Pulitzer Prize winner[3]:127

Caldwell Blakeman Esselstyn, Jr. (1956), Olympic medal-winning rower, physician, author[118]

Jack Edwin McGregor (1956), Pennsylvania State Senator, founder Pittsburgh Penguins[106]

R. Inslee Clark, Jr. (1957), former Director of Undergraduate Admissions for Yale College; former Headmaster of Horace Mann School[3]:153, 176

Linden Stanley Blue (1958), aviation executive[2]

Robert Willis Morey, Jr. (1958), Olympic medal-winning rower[2]

Stephen Adams (1959), American businessman, founder Adams Outdoor[3]:180

Winston Lord (1959), Chairman of Council on Foreign Relations; Ambassador to China; Assistant U.S. Secretary of State[3]:174–5, 189[113]


1960s

John Kerry (Bones 1966) faced off against George W. Bush (Bones 1968) in the 2004 US presidential election, the first time two Bonesmen had run against one another for that office.[119] David George Ball (1960), Assistant US Secretary of Labor[3]:1960

Eugene Lytton Scott (1960), tennis player, founder Tennis Week[120]

Michael Johnson Pyle (1960), National Football League player[2]

John Joseph Walsh, Jr. (1961), art historian, director J. Paul Getty Museum[121]

William Hamilton (1962), New Yorker cartoonist[122]

David L. Boren (1963), Governor of Oklahoma, U.S. Senator, President of the University of Oklahoma[3]:124, 158[123]

Michael Gates Gill (1963), advertising executive, author[124]

William Dawbney Nordhaus (1963), Sterling Professor of Economics at Yale University[2]

Orde Musgrave Coombs (1965), author, editor, first black member of Skull and Bones[125]

John Shattuck (1965), US diplomat and ambassador, university administrator[106]

John Forbes Kerry (1966), U.S. Senator (D-Massachusetts 1985–present); Lieutenant Governor of Massachusetts 1983–1985; 2004 Democratic Presidential nominee[3]:112

David Rumsey (1966), founder of the David Rumsey Map Collection and president of Cartography Associates[2]

Frederick Wallace Smith (1966), founder of FedEx[3]:172, 180–1[126]

David Thorne (1966), United States Ambassador to Italy[3]:85

Victor Ashe (1967), Tennessee State Senator and Representative, Mayor of Knoxville, Tennessee, US Ambassador to Poland[3]:181–2[127]

Roy Leslie Austin (1968), appointed ambassador to Trinidad and Tobago by George W. Bush[3]:177, 181–2[128]

George W. Bush (1968), grandson of Prescott Bush; son of George H. W. Bush; 46th Governor of Texas; 43rd President of the United States. His nickname was "Temporary" since he failed to choose a name.[3]:175–8

Rex William Cowdry (1968), Acting Director National Institute of Mental Health (1994–96)[3]:177

Robert McCallum, Jr (1968), Ambassador to Australia[3]:177, 181[129]

Don Schollander (1968), developer; author; US Olympic Hall of Fame inductee; four-time Olympic Gold medallist swimmer[3]:126, 177

Brian John Dowling (1969), National Football League player, inspiration for B.D. in Doonesbury[2]

Stephen Allen Schwarzman (1969), co-founder of The Blackstone Group[130][131]

Douglas Preston Woodlock (1969), US federal judge[132]


1970s

Charles Herbert Levin (1971), actor[2]

George Lewis (1974), trombonist and composer [133]

Christopher Taylor Buckley (1975), author, editor, chief speechwriter for Vice President George H. W. Bush[3]:173


1980s

Robert William Kagan (1980), co-founder of the Project for the New American Century[2]

Michael Cerveris (1983), American singer, guitarist and actor[2]

Earl G. Graves, Jr. (1984), president of Black Enterprise[134]

Edward S. Lampert (1984), founder of ESL Investments; chairman of Sears Holdings Corporation[3]:180[134]

James Emanuel Boasberg (1985), judge, United States District Court for the District of Columbia[106]

Paul Giamatti (1989), Academy Award-nominated American actor[135]


1990s to present

Dana Milbank (1990), political reporter for The Washington Post[136][137][138]

Austan Goolsbee (1991), staff director to and chief economist of President Barack Obama's Economic Recovery Advisory Board[139]

Catherine Moira Sharkey (1999), Law professor New York University School of Law, clerked for Justice David H. Souter of the United States Supreme Court[citation needed]
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Littleenki

#82
First one on the list.....

QuoteMcGeorge "Mac" Bundy (March 30, 1919 – September 16, 1996) was United States National Security Advisor to Presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson from 1961 through 1966, and president of the Ford Foundation from 1966 through 1979. He is known primarily for his role in escalating the involvement of the United States in Vietnam during the Kennedy and Johnson administrations.

Hmmm, sounds like hes probably on a sh!t list or two...

QuoteRaised in Boston, Massachusetts, Bundy came from a wealthy family long involved in Republican[1] politics. His mother, Katherine Lawrence Putnam, was the daughter of two Boston Brahmin families listed in the Social Register. His father, Harvey Hollister Bundy, was from Grand Rapids, Michigan and was a diplomat who helped implement the Marshall Plan.

Bundy attended the elite Dexter School in Brookline, Massachusetts and then the Groton School, where he placed first in his class and ran the student newspaper and debating society. He was then admitted to Yale University, one year behind his brother William. At Yale, where he majored in mathematics, he served as secretary of the Yale Political Union and then chairman of its Liberal Party. He also wrote a column for the Yale Daily News. Like his father, he was inducted into the Skull and Bones secret society, where he was nicknamed "Odin". He remained in contact with his fellow Bonesmen for decades afterward.[2]

Elitist? possibly, but as we know, the Skull and Bones produces fine upstanding citizens with love in their heart for their fellow men....



Oh the first one shows promise for being a dastardly dude, eh?

Lets dig....

Le
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petrus4

QuoteMichael Gates Gill (1963), advertising executive, author[124]

Any relation to Bill, I wonder?

I noticed three members of the Bush family were there.  I admit that I wasn't familiar with any of the other names, however; other than Kerry, of course.

I can remember reading about the parties that George HW Bush had supposedly been to; involving child sodomy, etc.  These people have been documented as complete psychopaths, or some of them, at least.  Supposedly the induction rituals are specifically designed to induce secondary psychopathy in any non-psychopath who might join.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

Littleenki

And heres number two...just getting rolling.....

QuoteAndrew Downey Orrick (October 18, 1917 – January 27, 2008) was a partner with Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe and the acting chairman of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission in San Francisco.

Sounds ok right?

An excerpt from one of his reports on the SEC in 1955...seems that Mr Orrick had a desire to keep wall street in check....

www.sec.gov/news/speech/1955/120355orrick.pdf

QuoteIn conclusion,the present Commission is determined to use its vast regulatory powers to protect the public investors through aggressive and strict enforcement of the disclosure and anti-fraud provisions of the states without stifling or strangling the economic development of legitimate enterprises by  unnecessary or burdensome regulations.We intend to conserve Vigorously the tested virtues of the full disclosure theory.We intend to strengthen energetically our enforcement activities against unlawful practices in the purchase and sale of securities,and by regulating wisely,to continue to maintain favorable conditions for economic growth.

Sounds good to me, but I had to add every space in that quote, as when copied and pasted it all ran together...Hmmm a pdf text conspiracy? LOL!

So it appears the SEC had our best interest in mind, and dropped the ball at some point by holding back on the whip and letting the boys play naughty in the schoolyard!

Onward....

Le
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Littleenki

Quote from: petrus4 on August 19, 2012, 05:15:05 PM
Any relation to Bill, I wonder?

I noticed three members of the Bush family were there.  I admit that I wasn't familiar with any of the other names, however; other than Kerry, of course.

I can remember reading about the parties that George HW Bush had supposedly been to; involving child sodomy, etc.  These people have been documented as complete psychopaths, or some of them, at least.  Supposedly the induction rituals are specifically designed to induce secondary psychopathy in any non-psychopath who might join.

Hmmm, I bet that name Gates goes back farther than we realize, eh?

Was Billy boy groomed for his position and was he just made a puppet for the progression of an information gathering campaign which has become known as windows update?

Service pack my arse..more like Im being serviced by a unliscenced proctologist with dirty fingernails.....oops was that inappropriate? :o
Hmm?

Care to choose a name and play, Petrus, its fuuuun! :)

OK, gotta go buy some Indian food, for some reason Im feelin like a big plate of Vindaloo!

Cheers!
Le
Hermetically sealed, for your protection

thorfourwinds

#86
Greetings:

Again, LE goes to head of the class - with class, as usual.    8)


"We should all, myself included,


be aware of the impact
of our outwardly devices,


and realize those
who may not be
a part of the physical conversation,


have every bit of right
to deserve a quality discussion
laid out for the betterment of us all."


Thank you, brother....

Now, fix that button!


Or dinner plate
for those bullet sponges
in Rio Linda    ::)



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Littleenki

Thor, you are trip, brother!
Ill save some vindallo for yoo!
At the indian market now, anything I can pick up for ya?
:-):-):-):-)
Le
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zorgon

Quote from: COSMO on August 19, 2012, 03:45:46 AM
But I would like to point out that the yogis of Tibet got their knowledge from Buddha, who was an Indian and studied the Vedas.  Generally speaking.....lol

Are you positive about that?

::)

undo11

for anybody that hasn't watched this video, linked in the first page of the thread,  or were not thrilled with the gentleman's delivery (voice,  in this example), you just gotta watch this video and over look any aggravation so you can realize what he is saying!



he has proven, that the surface area of every megalithic monument is exactly equal to its distance in degrees, from giza!   holy tunafish!
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