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zorgon

Quote from: Amaterasu on May 02, 2015, 10:43:59 PM
I see.

No you don't  You wear blinders :P

QuoteThe rich are psychopaths, clearly.

I know lots of rich people. They are very nice and are not psychopaths. You cannot label everyone by the few

QuoteThey do unEthical things.

So do poor people  and there are a lot more of them so per capita poor people do a lot more unethical things

QuoteAnd They have the power to do them. 

Everyone has the power  You simply have to learn the Rules of the Game and USE them  and you don't have to be unethical to do it

But I am spitting into the wind :P

ArMaP

Quote from: zorgon on May 03, 2015, 12:36:12 AM
Hmmm well if you say so :P
Yes, I do say so, I really lived under a fascist regime like the one in Iran during the Shah's rule, I know what I'm talking about.

Amaterasu

Quote from: zorgon on May 03, 2015, 12:40:17 AM
No you don't  You wear blinders :P

I know lots of rich people. They are very nice and are not psychopaths. You cannot label everyone by the few

So do poor people  and there are a lot more of them so per capita poor people do a lot more unethical things

Everyone has the power  You simply have to learn the Rules of the Game and USE them  and you don't have to be unethical to do it

But I am spitting into the wind :P

I do not "wear blinders."  You said a fool, etc., and only money motivates unEthical behavior towards fools.

Yes, the poor make unEthical choices, mostly out of desperation.  Rich People do it often for the fun of it, the duper's delight.  And I'm not talking about millionaires, even.  Let's get up to the top end of billionaire and into the trillionaire rich.

As for these rules, why are they nowhere clearly defined?  Why is it always, "You just have to think about it correctly and the whole world will fall at Your feet?"  But what that "correct way" is I have found zero specifics on.  I spent years believing, knowing, with absolute certainty, that every job app was going to lead to an offer.  So far, that "knowledge" has failed Me.

So rather than spit into the wrong direction, maybe a nice, clear-cut set of instructions is the best thing to produce.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

rdunk

"Let's get up to the top end of billionaire and into the trillionaire rich."

Who are the "trillionaires" you are referring to?? I am not aware of those individuals!

Glaucon

Quote from: Amaterasu
As for these rules, why are they nowhere clearly defined?  Why is it always, "You just have to think about it correctly and the whole world will fall at Your feet?"  But what that "correct way" is I have found zero specifics on.
It's frustrating, I remember well.

Keep struggling with that notion above, and hopefully it comes to you.
"The beginning of wisdom comes with the definition of terms" -Socrates

"..that the people being ignorant, and always discontented, to lay the foundation of government in the unsteady opinion and uncertain humour of the people, is to expose it to certain ruin" -Locke

zorgon

Quote from: Amaterasu on May 03, 2015, 02:13:53 AM
As for these rules, why are they nowhere clearly defined?

Well actually they are clearly defined and available albeit they are not broadcast nor taught in public schools  (Though to Clark County Nevada's credit they are teaching the basics in high school

QuoteWhy is it always, "You just have to think about it correctly and the whole world will fall at Your feet?" 

"Think and Grow Rich" is a popular title of just such a concept... :D  You could start by reading that to get the mind set going. Yes the Secret (Law of Attraction) plays a role but more than that you need to get in the right frame of mind

I cannot answer why you don't get jobs... I don't have enough information on that. I only know that I went door to door seeking work and so did my daughter when she was recently fired (wrongfully) from K Mart... We drove around leaving applications anywhere that would take them (not online)  and ACE Hardware hired her in a week part time.  She has already moved up to full time.

My wife, (now moved out) has the same problem as you... can't seem to find a job or in her case hold one for long. But in her case I know it is an attitude and anger issue that is her undoing  and as she gets older  it gets harder for people to want to take a chance.

So if a job is not available ( I suppose burger flippers of America is not an option? :P ) then you have to look elsewhere

Now I have tried to show people how to make some cash in this crazy world.  It works if you give it a chance...

I have also posted several threads on the methods to use other peoples money to make money  and its not unethical...

I will do a batch of pages on the website on this  step by step. It is likely to be seen there :D  Now these methods are for America and Canada  likely will work in Australia and UK  I don't know much about how Europe and the 3rd world operates so it is only good here in the USA :P


QuoteBut what that "correct way" is I have found zero specifics on.

Well there is no single 'correct way' as several ways work and lead to the same results. But there is a sure way to increase any money you do have.  Before you tell me you only have .64 cents to your name :P I am talking in general :D   

If you really do want to learn a few of the tricks you will have to LISTEN and try it :P  Not just dismiss it,  I will notify people when I start the pages  I have some issues to clear up first as I now have to pay ALL the bills at home myself, but I will start them this next week or so

In the meantime  Do you have a bicycle and can you ride one?

QuoteI spent years believing, knowing, with absolute certainty, that every job app was going to lead to an offer.  So far, that "knowledge" has failed Me.

As I said I have no idea why it didn't work without knowing what you brought to the table and where you applied.  Sometimes we expect more and are not willing to accept a lower position just to get income flowing.  I find it difficult to believe any able bodied person cannot find SOME work  especially one who is not tied down to a location by house or family

QuoteSo rather than spit into the wrong direction, maybe a nice, clear-cut set of instructions is the best thing to produce.

Good idea  It has helped other in the past and maybe someone will get something from my effort :D

Just for a primer  did you know that the amount of effort to turn 1,000 into 10,000 is the SAME as turning 100 into 1,000  or 10,000 into 100,000

This is one of the TRUE CONSTANTS  in the money game :D  What it means is that you have to first have 100.00 that you can play with (not for food or bills etc)  You have to first get this 100.00 of 'play money' and be prepared to lose it once or twice.  Once you reach that goal  the work begins :D

But I promise I will cover all that in the web pages   No one to interupt me there :D


zorgon

Quote from: Amaterasu on May 03, 2015, 02:13:53 AM
I do not "wear blinders."  You said a fool, etc., and only money motivates unEthical behavior towards fools.

Yes you wear blinders :P All you see is the evil of money... and so you have come to hate money itself.  Maybe you do it subconsciously  maybe its deliberate  I don't know but you cannot easily see beyond your hate of money

" A Fool"   Yes that is an old saying about someone losing hi/her money

Look at it this way...  the average person goes to work, earns a decent income that if used wisely can pay his bills, feed his family and maybe have a little left over for a beer with the guys. 

But how easily is this average person coerced or enticed into giving up that little extra?  They wave credit cards at you so you can have it now  pay later. They show you what all the well off people in Holiywood have and do... so they make you crave those things  And before you can blink an eye...  The average person signs on that line and goes spending

Now NO ONE is forcing that person to spend his money foolishly  It is just that human nature takes over.  It is NOT brain washing per say, though repeating things over and over does lure the rube in :P

And it is not only Hu-mons :P Ravens will do it  and so do Ferrets... You should see them fight you when they want something and are stealing it and you try to take it from them   MINE!!!!!

We are Ravens  easily distracted by pretties  and we are Ferrets, slyly hoarding stuff we really have no need for

And the rich know this  and keep dangling the bait :D  Stop biting on the hook... burn the credit cards  I love the new ATM cards that act like a credit card when you need one, but are limited to what you actually have in the bank :P

ArMaP

Quote from: Amaterasu on May 03, 2015, 02:13:53 AM
I do not "wear blinders."

QuoteLet's get up to the top end of billionaire and into the trillionaire rich.
You do wear blinders, as the above quote shows, the blinders you created for yourself to convince you that you are right.

The last time you were asked about those imaginary trillionaires you said "The trillionaires probably insist no such list be compiled".

The worst kind of fool is the one that fools him/herself.  :(


Amaterasu

Quote from: Glaucon on May 03, 2015, 08:23:54 AM
It's frustrating, I remember well.

Keep struggling with that notion above, and hopefully it comes to you.

LOL!  Been "struggling" with that idea for 25 years or more.  At this point I doubt it will be doing much changing...
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Amaterasu

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Quote from: zorgon on May 03, 2015, 09:12:48 AM
Yes you wear blinders :P All you see is the evil of money... and so you have come to hate money itself.  Maybe you do it subconsciously  maybe its deliberate  I don't know but you cannot easily see beyond your hate of money

And You are so wrong!  I LOVE money when it is used Ethically.  I LOVE it when *I* have it.  I wish I had a pile to roll around in!!!  What I hate is the UNETHICAL use of money - and it will ALWAYS promote unEthical choices, and will always promote psychopaths to the top (psychopathy is genetic - why do You think "the families" inbreed?).  And...  Virtually ALL unethical choices have to do with money and/or the power over Others it affords (that power draws psychopaths like flies to honey).

So, wrong, wrong, wrong.

Quote" A Fool"   Yes that is an old saying about someone losing hi/her money

Uh, yeah.  That's a given.

QuoteLook at it this way...  the average person goes to work, earns a decent income that if used wisely can pay his bills, feed his family and maybe have a little left over for a beer with the guys. 

Maybe the average Person used to have a decent income.  These days, the average Person is struggling just to put food on table and a roof over that table.  More and more are going homeless in this psychopath-run set of systems.

QuoteBut how easily is this average person coerced or enticed into giving up that little extra?  They wave credit cards at you so you can have it now  pay later. They show you what all the well off people in Holiywood have and do... so they make you crave those things  And before you can blink an eye...  The average person signs on that line and goes spending

The average Person today has nothing like this.

QuoteNow NO ONE is forcing that person to spend his money foolishly  It is just that human nature takes over.  It is NOT brain washing per say, though repeating things over and over does lure the rube in :P

Yes, it IS brainwashing.  From birth We are taught to want.  We are taught to define Ourselves in terms of what We have materially.  We define "success" as having lots of accounting units.  The corporate realm seeks to have Us wanting all the time, for the purpose of profit.  They advertise and market specifically to encourage this approach. 

QuoteAnd it is not only Hu-mons :P Ravens will do it  and so do Ferrets... You should see them fight you when they want something and are stealing it and you try to take it from them   MINE!!!!!

They are predisposed.  Humans have to be trained - and They do a very good job of training Us to behave such that They profit.

QuoteWe are Ravens  easily distracted by pretties  and we are Ferrets, slyly hoarding stuff we really have no need for

BS.  We are trained from birth, and even then, the training does not stick on a fair few of Us.

QuoteAnd the rich know this  and keep dangling the bait :D  Stop biting on the hook... burn the credit cards  I love the new ATM cards that act like a credit card when you need one, but are limited to what you actually have in the bank :P

I have not a single credit card.  Not a single bank account.  I withdrew consent from this psychopath's paradise of a money system and a top-down controlmind.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Amaterasu

Quote from: ArMaP on May 03, 2015, 02:17:59 PM
You do wear blinders, as the above quote shows, the blinders you created for yourself to convince you that you are right.

The last time you were asked about those imaginary trillionaires you said "The trillionaires probably insist no such list be compiled".

The worst kind of fool is the one that fools him/herself.  :(

Uh, I am always open to being proven wrong.  So.  Prove Me wrong.  I have studied things diligently and have arrived at many conclusions, but I do leave open the possibility that I do not have all the data, or even bad data.  But where I make conclusions, I have gotten enough data to give likelihood of incomplete or bad data as being very low.

Again, prove Me wrong.  I can handle it.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

ArMaP

Quote from: Amaterasu on May 03, 2015, 09:05:06 PM
Uh, I am always open to being proven wrong.  So.  Prove Me wrong.
Shouldn't be you the one that needs to prove what you're saying, in this case that there are trillionaires?

QuoteI have studied things diligently and have arrived at many conclusions, but I do leave open the possibility that I do not have all the data, or even bad data.  But where I make conclusions, I have gotten enough data to give likelihood of incomplete or bad data as being very low.
You're the second person I have seen on Internet forums that accepts the possibility of using bad data but doesn't talk about the possibility of being wrong in their conclusions based on the available data.

QuoteAgain, prove Me wrong.  I can handle it.
I doubt it, but, as I said above, you are the one that should prove that you are right.

Amaterasu

Quote from: zorgon on May 03, 2015, 09:02:21 AM
I will do a batch of pages on the website on this  step by step. It is likely to be seen there :D  Now these methods are for America and Canada  likely will work in Australia and UK  I don't know much about how Europe and the 3rd world operates so it is only good here in the USA :P

Looking forward.

QuoteWell there is no single 'correct way' as several ways work and lead to the same results. But there is a sure way to increase any money you do have.  Before you tell me you only have .64 cents to your name :P I am talking in general :D   

Since I'm the One being crapped on because it's all My fault, I would rather You offer things for Those of Us starting with nothing.  Not useful if You have to have something to make something.

QuoteIf you really do want to learn a few of the tricks you will have to LISTEN and try it :P  Not just dismiss it,  I will notify people when I start the pages  I have some issues to clear up first as I now have to pay ALL the bills at home myself, but I will start them this next week or so

Well, I imagine those bills are a drop in the bucket.  Since You have been so grossly successful in thinking Yourself rich.

QuoteIn the meantime  Do you have a bicycle and can you ride one?

No and no.

QuoteAs I said I have no idea why it didn't work without knowing what you brought to the table and where you applied.  Sometimes we expect more and are not willing to accept a lower position just to get income flowing.  I find it difficult to believe any able bodied person cannot find SOME work  especially one who is not tied down to a location by house or family

Limited to desk jobs, I have applied to every one I have found that I even remotely qualify for - all around the effing planet.  Night desk at motels, bookkeeper, admin. assistant, and anything that deals with graphics.  As long as I don't have to stand long periods of time, and I come close on requirements, I apply.  And I would not put Myself in the "able bodied" category.  I am limited.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

zorgon

Quote from: Amaterasu on May 03, 2015, 08:49:03 PM
And You are so wrong!  I LOVE money  I LOVE it when *I* have it.  I wish I had a pile to roll around in!!!

Okay then :P Then you need to change your focus to THINK MONEY. You still living at Thor's Cabin?

QuoteThese days, the average Person is struggling just to put food on table and a roof over that table.  More and more are going homeless in this psychopath-run set of systems.

Not sure where you get your figures but I drive around Las Vegas and California and I see the vast majority doing just fine,  Sure tougher than in the past, more belt tightening, but the foreclosures are dropping in numbers and all the ones I know that got taken away  everyone was because the people had more house than they could afford

Two neighbors foolishly took out a loan on the house when values sky rocketed a few years ago then got caught in the crash.  One took 40,000 and bought a new truck. He walked because the value was less than he owed and he lived there 18 months not paying mortgage until they finally took it over.  So he came out ahead  Bank took a big loss

The other one was an elderly couple. He let his son take a business loan against the house.  When the crash came, the son refused to make the payments  End result his parents were now without a home. Sad part is he was going to go for a reverse mortgage but his son talked him out of it to get the loan'

So there are always two sides of a coin