My political profile

[undo11]

some republicans are not actually conservative
just like some democrats are not actually liberal
i mean, just based on our current definitions of those terms.

currently, as long as you have an address where they can send the bill, any emergency room and hospital will give you medical care without  insurance.   you can go up there and get a problem addressed immediately.  there are rare cases where they won't but they are very rare indeed because any losses that result, they can write off their taxes. 

probably why the democrats don't like the current state of health care, cause they will be seen as the bad guys if they insist the hospitals pay higher taxes to compensate for their write offs (that's usually how it works).

also, no good population control gone mad scenario will work without the forced obeisance of the medical community.  doctors are supposed to fix ya, not let you die if you don't match some preconceived notion of value to society.

[zorgon]

currently, as long as you have an address where they can send the bill, any emergency room and hospital will give you medical care without  insurance.   you can go up there and get a problem addressed immediately.  there are rare cases where they won't but they are very rare indeed because any losses that result, they can write off their taxes.

Emergency yes.. they cannot legally refuse you if its an emergency... so if I wait till its bad enough that i need an ambulance to get there they will fix it and send e a HUGE bill... but fix it NOW before it becomes an emergency and is only a small bill?  Show me one hospital that will do elective surgery without cash up front.

doctors are supposed to fix ya, not let you die if you don't match some preconceived notion of value to society.

Doctors do not know how to fix you in most cases. They just keep you going. Afterall that is why they call medicine a 'practice'

A guy in Florida had a bad leg... they amputated the good one...

My sister had an unknown condition... she went from doctor to doctor who prescribed medication to see if this will work. In the end she diagnosed herself on the internet (because it had gotten chronic) but by that tile the meds had destroyed one of her kidneys

If a doctor would look at you and say gee sorry I don't know what is wrong and send you to someone who does... would that not make more sense? If a mechanic doesn't fix y car, I don't pay him... why does a doctor get to bill me 40.00 for 15 minutes of doing nothing?

The reason that medical cost are so high is the enormous MALPRACTICE insurance these guys need to cover their blunders. I have a very LONG list of people I know personally on that blunder list

So 'technically' they are supposed to fix you, but don't count on it

[undo11]

hey i know all about research to solve your own problems, did that with diabetic neuropathy by taking methyl b-12 and learned that from a doc who specializes in curing kids and adults with autism, who noticed the pleasant side effect of giving methyl b-12 to his patients was the ones with diabetes were actually recovering circulation, healing nerve damage in their extremities and use of their extremeties.

my sister figured out i was allergic to eggs, while the docs kept having me drink mylanta 2 and take repeated upper GIs and saying things like, "your stomach lining should be pink and smooth but it's red and granular. you are a candidate for ulcers.  here take this bland diet.  (main breakfast ingredient, poached eggs).   

so yeah i know about that.  but let's say you're suffering from your hernia. you go in and say i'm suffering from this.  you will get help. right then. if it needs an operation and is life threatening, you will get help then.   but yeah the bill is gonna be insane.  no argument there. 

the point i'm making is, once you give government the power over whether your doctor even bothers to save your life while in cardiac arrest or coma  or what not,  you have just given them the right to wipe ya based on things like age, race, religion or lack thereof, gender, financial bracket or political affiliation.  you do not want that.  the hospital bill is much preferable. 

[zorgon]

you do not want that.  the hospital bill is much preferable.

Why can't i have a system like France, or Switzerland, or Germany, or Canada or Australia?

Huh?

How come?

[undo11]

Why can't i have a system like France, or Switzerland, or Germany, or Canada or Australia?

Huh?

How come?

probably because the democrats, some republicans and rome, want willing slaves, not white guys with educations.  so when the time comes to wipe ya, mr. whitey,  the doctors will all be on the same boat (by government writ).

it's like asking, why can't we have our economy and jobs back?  because the democrats and their backers, don't want us to have an economy.  black people and minorities from other countries would actually benefit too much from it and not be willing to stage their "wipe out our competition" revolution.   it's part of taking down a country.  screw up a country's economy, then raise up a population within its borders who are willing to blame the other race or races, then yank the rug out from under everyone and watch it fly. 

man you need to go back to conspiracy school. lol

[undo11]

here you go.  i rest my case your honor.

[zorgon]

So who should I vote for now that Ron Paul chickened out?



Can I vote Zorgon for King?

[undo11]

So who should I vote for now that Ron Paul chickened out?



Can I vote Zorgon for King?

nope, cause zorgon wants slaves.

[zorgon]

here you go.  i rest my case your honor.

'm usually addressed as "Your Excelancy" comes with the Baron/Viceroy title

yeah the Mason/Rosicrucians started this country... it was the red Shields that coerced Woodrow Wilson to sigh in to power the two private entities, the Fer and the IRS, and sold yawl back into slavery...

you anti masons are blaming the wrong team... wasn't WW a christian? yeah married a ministers daughter in Rome Georgia  go figure

He's the one to blame for this mess

'I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world — no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men. "  Woodrow Wilson

[zorgon]

And yes the Chinese will buy your house above value, and then leave it empty like those massive buildings that keep their construction industry going!LOL!

Works for me Then I can buy a nice Winnebago or something and go where the road takes me

[undo11]

yeah, i mentioned the fed earlier.  it was a 2 banger.
first was the repubs freeing the black slaves and to do so, taking more power than was enumerated to the federal government in the constitution and etc.  this gave the federal arm of the government control over the decisions individual states made, because it was individual state laws keeping the black people enslaved.

then, later, the federal reserve sealed the deal, ushered in by the democrats.   then individual states, people, etc, could be hit with bigger fees and fines and taxes, businesses could be run out on a rail,  wars could be declared on the drop of a dime, and it could be used to punish specific institutions and world views.  the temptation to abuse that kind of power, apparently has been too much for both sides of the coin but the repubs have at least, consistently tried to re-establish the economy.

sadly, the economy is not only tied into the fed but wall street and wall street is manipulated constantly, by people who want us to go bankrupt.   perfect example of that was when they deliberately handed out subpar mortgage loans to everyone and his uncle, with no proof of citizenry, job or anything lol  crashed the housing market, crashed banks, stole old people's life savings, ruined most of our remaining small businesses and wrecked the value of the dollar.  put lots of people in the poor house, including minorities.

i got on the average of 10 calls a day, from 8 am to 10pm, everyday (including saturday and sunday) for 2 years, begging me to take one of their loans that had fine print balloon payments of mammoth size and other vehicles to literally steal the property back or just to steal the property, after the loan of the money had broken the back of the economy.

that wasn't repubs that did that.  and if there were any repubs involved, they were just play acting to be conservative repubs (like bush who came from a family of white supremacists (read slave owners. they say obama is a regurg of bush. well that's cause they are both democrats lol ).   conservatives don't want to ruin the economy.  that's like the last thing on their minds

[Littleenki]

Works for me Then I can buy a nice Winnebago or something and go where the road takes me

Ive always wanted to do that! great idea! See ya on the road!:D
Le

[undo11]

oh and regards your earlier question about explaining how we have obama for president :  the slaves were sold by other black people in africa and brought by boat to america.   so, don't be so racist to think black people didn't have slaves as well.  ; )   they most certainly did. 
in fact, they still do in other places in the world.  there's a huge international slave trade going on right now and has been for a very long time. 

[zorgon]

in fact, they still do in other places in the world.  there's a huge international slave trade going on right now and has been for a very long time.

Oh yes  slavery is all around us...  but those slave markets are so dang EXPENSIVE  wow....

Its a lot easier and cheaper to just run an ad and get free ones

So I take it you voted for Herr Bush and his Oil Clan?

[rdunk]

"Works for me  Then I can buy a nice Winnebago or something and go where the road takes me"

"I've always wanted to do that! great idea! See ya on the road!:D"

A little sideways to the topic, but in response.......we RV'd fulltime for 5 years. We spent about 4 months of each winter in the Texas Rio Grande Valley, and then traveled some during the rest of the time, each year.

We sold the house on the lake, gave much of the "STUFF" to the kids, and took off. We had a great time!

For us, the best part of RV'ing, it becomes being more about people, than about traveling. We met just lots of really good/friendly people, and made many lasting friends while doing that.

RV'ing fulltime is a "whole different lifestyle"! And, in going through the prep for it, and actually doing it, one quickly learns that most all of the "treasures of life" collected/hoarded over the years actually IS....... "just stuff"!!

The lifestyle is, completely open - - go where you want to, stay as long as you desire, pick the kind of RV parks that suit your budget and "must haves", and know that if you get parked next to someone just not friendly, you can move somewhere else. Most RV'ers find themselves returning to the places they really like and are comfortable with.

Fulltiming is a real life changing experience for most, as it it so different from so much of our normal-life experiences.

Anyone who might be thinking about doing this - I recommend that you read, read, read, online, at the various RV forums, and on RV'er journals. The more you know before you start, will certainly save you from a lot of problems and headaches, when you get on the road.

Oh yes, the RV'ing movie a few years ago was pretty funny, but was not a very realistic presentation of the RV life.

Just FYI !!!