food shortages

[robomont]

i decided to start this thread after watching people waiting on a sale of pork ribs at super one.
if yall see a shortage of any product usually found at walmart ,please feel free to add.
my first shortage for this thread is actually about straighttalk phone cards.
at walmart this weekend there were none.there were none at a wally world thirty miles away either.
luckily my mom lives fifty miles away and she found me one.
if times start getting bad.this info could give all of us a heads up on what to hoard.
we can hang together or we can hang separately.
thankyou and good luck surviving in amerika.

[Caver78]

Good idea.
I just spent several days trying to find SEVIN a garden pesticide I needed to de-flea my dogs after vacation.
Yes...I gave up an paid for the advantix.

Sevin 5 will kill your pets, and is found everywhere, plain sevin has apparently disappeared.

[robomont]

thanks for the headsup.i know it as sevin dust.
i use diatoms and rub it in.its called diatomaceous earth.i get it at plant stores or online.
i have not been seeing iodized salt lately just regular salt or seasalt.

[sky otter]

caver
you may want to rethink the sevin

or at least read the label.. it kills honeybees ..the whole colony
and it is toxic to humans..the label clearly tells you not to let it be absorbed thur the skin

anything like this has an msds..material data safety sheet..they are free thur osha
most are printed on the label of any chemical
they are also online but pfd files so they have to be downlaoded to read

here the page where you can read the label for sevin  pdf files don't copy and paste so you'll have to do some work here
http://www.gardentech.com/labels.asp


http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/anticholinesterase


anticholinesterase /an·ti·cho·lin·es·ter·ase/ (-ko?lin-es´ter-?s) cholinesterase inhibitor.

an·ti·cho·lin·es·ter·ase (nt-kl-nst-rs, -rz, nt-)
n.
A substance that inhibits the activity of cholinesterases, including acetylcholinesterase.

The American Heritage® Medical Dictionary Copyright © 2007, 2004 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

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anticholinesterase
[an?tikol??nes?t?r?s]
a drug that inhibits or inactivates the action of acetylcholinesterase. Drugs of this class cause acetylcholine to accumulate at the junctions of various cholinergic nerve fibers and their effector sites or organs, allowing potentially continuous stimulation of cholinergic fibers throughout the central and peripheral nervous systems. Anticholinesterases include physostigmine salicylate, neostigmine, edrophonium, and pyridostigmine. Neostigmine and pyridostigmine are prescribed in the treatment of myasthenia gravis; edrophonium in the diagnosis of myasthenia gravis and the treatment of overdose of curariform drugs. Many agricultural insecticides have been developed from anticholinesterases; these are the highly toxic chemicals called organophosphates. Nerve gases developed as potential chemical warfare agents contain potent, irreversible forms of anticholinesterase.
Mosby's Medical Dictionary, 8th edition. © 2009, Elsevier.

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anticholinesterase [an?te-, an?ti-ko?lin-es´ter-?s]
an agent that inhibits acetylcholinesterase, the enzyme that breaks down acetylcholine at junctions of cholinergic nerve endings and effector organs or postsynaptic neurons; this permits the accumulation of acetylcholine and increases the stimulation of cholinergic receptors in the central and peripheral nervous systems. Called also cholinesterase inhibitor.

Organophosphate insecticides and chemical-warfare agents (nerve gases) are highly toxic "irreversible" anticholinesterases; "reversible" anticholinesterases such as neostigmine and physostigmine are used for treatment of myasthenia gravis, glaucoma, and smooth muscle atony of the gastrointestinal tract and for termination of the effect of nondepolarizing neuromuscular blocking agents and cholinergic blocking agents. Poisoning by anticholinesterases is treated with atropine and the cholinesterase reactivator pralidoxime.
Miller-Keane Encyclopedia and Dictionary of Medicine, Nursing, and Allied Health, Seventh Edition. © 2003 by Saunders, an imprint of Elsevier, Inc. All rights reserved.

[zorgon]

at walmart this weekend there were none.there were none at a wally world thirty miles away either.

Walmart is EVIL....

They hire illegal aliens so they don't have to ay benefits
They undercut other merchants with unfair competition

Those two things lead to less jobs for normal people...

That leads to less products available

Is Wal-Mart Evil? 20 Shocking Facts

America absolutely loves Wal-Mart.  100 million customers visit Wal-Mart every single week in this country.  But is Wal-Mart good for America?  That is a question that most people never stop and ask.  Most of us love shopping in big, clean stores that are packed with super cheap merchandise, but the truth is that Wal-Mart is destroying America in a lot of ways.  As you will see below, Wal-Mart has destroyed tens of thousands of small businesses and countless manufacturing jobs over the past couple of decades.  Wal-Mart has become a gigantic retail behemoth that sells five times more stuff than any other retailer in the United States. 

Unfortunately, about 85 percent of all the stuff sold at Wal-Mart is made overseas.  What that is costing the U.S. economy in terms of lost jobs and lost revenue is incalculable.  But Wal-Mart is a perfect example of where our economic system is headed.  Our economy is becoming completely and totally dominated by highly centralized monolithic predator corporations that ruthlessly crush all competition and that will stoop to just about anything in order to cut costs.

According to the Economic Policy Institute, trade between Wal-Mart and China resulted in the loss of133,000 manufacturing jobs in the United States between 2001 and 2006.

The CEO of Wal-Mart makes more in a single hour than a full-time Wal-Mart associate makes in an entire year.

Tens of thousands of Wal-Mart employees and their children are enrolled in Medicaid and are dependent on the government for healthcare.

Between 2001 and 2007, the value of products that Wal-Mart imported from China grew from $9 billion to $27 billion.

The number of "independent retailers" in the United States declined by 60,000 between 1992 and 2007.

According to the Center for Responsive Politics, Wal-Mart spent 7.8 million dollars on political lobbying during 2011.  That number does not even include campaign contributions.

China's exports to Walmart accounted for 11% of the growth of the total US trade deficit with China between 2001 and 2006.

All over the country, independent retailers are going out of business because they cannot compete with Wal-Mart and their super cheap Chinese products.  Often communities will give Wal-Mart huge tax breaks just to move in to their areas.  But what many communities don't take into account is that the introduction of a Wal-Mart is often absolutely devastating to small businesses....

    A study of small and rural towns in Iowa showed lost sales for local businesses ranging from -17.2% in small towns to -61.4% in rural areas, amounting to a total dollar loss of $2.46 BILLION over a 13-year period.

When we buy stuff made by people working for slave labor wages in China, we destroy good paying American jobs and we make America poorer.  This is a point that I have tried to make over and over.

Wal-Mart often tells one thing to the public and then does another thing in private.  Sadly, the truth is that Wal-Mart does not care about U.S. manufacturing jobs.  Wal-Mart just wants to get products as cheaply as they possibly can, and most of the time that means getting them from China.

http://www.econmatters.com/2012/07/is-wal-mart-evil-20-shocking-facts.html

[Littleenki]

Ive gotta agree wholeheartedly on this one Zorgon!

Walmart is the single most disgusting business I can imagine, growing like a cancer in our country.

The crap they sell there is so pathetic, it doesnt even last a year, and the people who buy it deserve the sorry quality they get.

Now, robomont's phone cards arent made in China, but they do support the bigger picture of how Walmart destroys small retailers and businesses.

Add to that those poor working class welfare employees, and its clear to see that those who shop there have zero conscience.

People, you dont have to shop at Walmart...but if you do, dont be surprised when your country turns into a fascist elitist nation, run by a few big business, and the banks they deposit their money in.

I havent stepped foot in one for nearly a decade, and will never again.

And every person who lives in this country should do the same..no excuses...wah wah, but the diapers are so cheap....boo hoo where else can I buy a cd player for 19 bucks?  Gee whiz, look at all the Christmas crap which wont light up next year!

Gimme a break America...stop being so freaking cheap, and have some dignity...puhlease!

Or go down in a big ball of Walmart flames...while China laughs all the way to the bank. Driven there by the Walmart board members in their Maybachs.

Cant think of another word for Walmart but...DISGUSTING.

Rant complete...now think about it folks...

Le

[robomont]

with my families income,i have no other options.
also i have no pity for the  usa.they started the drug testing bs.hampering my income.let the whole country burn to the ground.

the ship has already sunk.
its cannabalism now.

eat the illegals and cops first.

write in ron paul or become shark food.

[Littleenki]

Walmart by me sees so many illegals, it would be a massive feast if we were to eat them!LOL!
I understand how you need to find cheaper alternatives to some stores out there, but it all stems from the words need and want.

What do we really need that walmart has?

Nothing really, everything can be found in other places and sources, so to say you need walmart is a bit of a copout.

You want to have THINGS yet you arent willing to wait until you can either make them, grow them, or find them yourself...instead you have to HAVE them now, and subsequently end up in wqlmart.

I dont make a ton of money, not even a few pounds, but I havent gone there in ten years, and have taught myself valuable lessons throug that time in how to live properly away from the big boxes.

Just try to shift one part of your life away from wally a week, and watch how crafty and good you become at finding these things elsewhere, while supporting local businesses that sell or make us produced goods.

Its hard, and takes time, but it works, robomont, youll be so amazed how easy it becomes to avoid the wally, youll forget it ever existed.

Cheers!
Le

[robomont]

i by my tobacco on line.two lbs.$36,total shipping and all.
brookshires is thirty percent higher than wally plus plus i can get unlimited phone ,txt ,and net for fifty a month.verizon is eighty.plus i dont have to spend gas driving all over town risking a ticket or being run over by a mexican.nobody else sells camo pants for twenty.thats all i wear is camo due to my profession.
i do buy my boots in other places but nobody in the whole town had my style in size thirteen.
linens of top quality are fifty at wally.a hundred at a furniture store.thats a days wages around here.
hastings movies twenty.can get for five to ten and money doesnt go to romney.i have a different view of hastings and staples now.

there will always be somebody who will do the job cheaper and all jobs have been dumbed down to where a simpleton can do them.pretty soon even med..doctors jobs will be dumbed down by computers.nurses are now running some clinics.
the only way to have a high standard of living is to be a isolationist country,with unions.
in a free economy ,unions die,like now.

then the shortages can be seen coming and people can prepare.

what if zorgons right,an iceage is coming.
we will be moving to mexico ,quick.
we will be glad those border fences are easy to tear down.
i dont know what the answer is.

[Littleenki]

Ice age?
Does wally sell snow gear?:-)
Le

[robomont]

ive worked in -13 degree weather in north dakota with wally gear.it aint great but a person can survive in it.personally ive kept cold weather gear my whole adult life.im a wuss,i dont like cold or heat.103 in ne texas,this weather suks.

[Littleenki]

Im with ya there, Robo!
I hate the cold!
As for another Ice age, I think Zorgon is right, he has the chart to prove it, too. What is funny is that with our technology today, youd think we could find a way to make it work to our advantage, but if we find some way to benefit from cooler climates, the PTB will suppress it anyways!

Ill be watching the Gulf water temps for any change, and as of now my almanac tells me we are 1.5 degrees below normal for June, July, and August..so maybe theres merit to the Ice Age scenario.

Its OK, I can keep my bottle of Glenlivet on the table by the pool if it drops enough!;)

Le

[WarToad]

ive worked in -13 degree weather in north dakota with wally gear.it aint great but a person can survive in it.personally ive kept cold weather gear my whole adult life.im a wuss,i dont like cold or heat.103 in ne texas,this weather suks.

Heh. I live in Minot, ND.  Every winter you can lay money down an a few or more mornings being -30-ish.  A -40 morning isn't every year, but often enough.  I believe 2008-9(?) winter we hit close to -50 twice. (That's not wind chill .)

You have an engine block heater or you're likely not going anywhere.

[zorgon]

I lived in Winnipeg for a few years... go outside and your breath turns to ice crystals 

The coldest wind chill reading ever recorded was -57.1°C on February 1, 1996. According to Environment Canada, Winnipeg is the coldest city in the world with a population of over 600,000 based on the average night-time temperature during December, January and February, inclusive.

The Coldest Spot in Canada 72 below Zero



Now I live near another Thermometer...

The World's Largest Thermometer is 134-ft.-tall, symbolic of the record high temperature in the US, in Death Valley -- 134 degrees Fahrenheit

[Littleenki]

They say opposites attract, eh Zorgon?

Is that the family truckster with trailer in tow? Nice!

Here in Florida today its beautiful with a solid 10mph wind, and lower than normal humidity.

Still, its a bit unpleasant during the top of the day, but nothing like any other year I can remember, or in my almanac.

If the Ice Age starts, do you have an extra room at the Zorg Haus? LOL!

Cheers!