are the mibs on here?

[The Seeker]

Wiring your house with a 12vdc system isn't that difficult as Z has stated; refrigerators and most other appliances are available at a wide array of manufacturers, and I can give you several ideas how to use the RV type that functions on electricity or gas without having to use any gas in the desert; just need a closed loop heat exchanger to keep the freon hot and a trickle of power for the fan and compressor...


seeker

[zorgon]

John had a full size refrigerator freezer out at the mine cabin that ran on propane

here is one that can run on propane OR electricity



This one can run on propane AC OR DC

[zorgon]

The Led's on my boat..running lights and courtesy lighting is really bright..plenty for lighting at night! And theyre easy to make your own..all the parts come from Mouser.com for mere dollars..it's the labor which is the hardest part..and its not really hard at all. I eliminated 400 watts of incandescent light on my boat with twenty dollars worth of leds and parts, and one day of labor.

In Toronto the ferries run a 12v volt system



They use 100 watt bulbs to light up the decks

Those bulbs look like this



100 Watt 12 Volt A19 Bulb - Frost Light Bulb $2.75 each
http://www.buylighting.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=100A12V&click=27930

So in case of power failure if you put in a few of these installed you would have light for hours off a few car batteries And you can run a small wind turbine night and day to charge the batteries

And as 12 volts is a low voltage system you can do it yourself with no danger of shock And you can use wire molding to hide wires if you don't want to drill into walls etc

Plastic or metal wire molding... easy to install a few screws or the plastic ones have sticky tape and all snap on connections

Wire Mold

[Littleenki]

Wouldnt it be funny if we switched back to DC wiring..and then Tesla would really roll over in his grave!

The power company has the 110 ac locked down tight, but 12v has promise in the homeowner installation arena, and all good rv's use a two way system to run their frig and various high draw devices, such as heat and stoves.

Just got to find a way to develop a 12v home system which could be retrofitted, and then inverters and batteries would be passe.

At least nobody else would get Westinghoused anymore!

And, Progress Energy would sh!t their pants...

This catalog has everything 12volt dc you can imagine...

http://www.defender.com/
Le

[Littleenki]

In Toronto the ferries run a 12v volt system



They use 100 watt bulbs to light up the decks

Those bulbs look like this



100 Watt 12 Volt A19 Bulb - Frost Light Bulb $2.75 each
http://www.buylighting.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=100A12V&click=27930

So in case of power failure if you put in a few of these installed you would have light for hours off a few car batteries And you can run a small wind turbine night and day to charge the batteries

Geez, why does this all sound so easy?

What is stopping everyone from doing this..beyond the expense of retrofitting that is?

Le

[zorgon]

Wouldnt it be funny if we switched back to DC wiring..and then Tesla would really roll over in his grave!

No DC is only good for local use, not for transmission. Tesla knew that too. But all this talk of free energy systems implies a local home system with no transmission required unless you want to set up a neighborhood power company

The power company has the 110 ac locked down tight, but 12v has promise in the homeowner installation arena, and all good rv's use a two way system to run their frig and various high draw devices, such as heat and stoves.

We save a lot on cooking energy by using out firepit outside with cast iron pots and pans. We also have a convenient propane bar-b-que that runs over a year on one 5 gallon gas tank

In the light winter we have here that one wood stove does it all save when we sleep, and a pot of water on that stove is a great humidifier for the dry desert winter

Just got to find a way to develop a 12v home system which could be retrofitted, and then inverters and batteries would be passe.

See edit above  use wire mold to run a safe easy to install secondary system. It also doesn't need permits if you do it yourself in your own home as its the same as running speaker wires. In fact good speaker wire would handle it no problem

Your land line telephone wire is very thing. yet it carries 48 volts

Alarm system wires are the same as telephone wire  they carry 12 volts

[Primus58]

John had a full size refrigerator freezer out at the mine cabin that ran on propane

I've got a couple that run on ice... what will they think of next?

[Amaterasu]

Come on Amy, that illustration proves nothing and you know it.  From what I know, the way to get something useful from EG is to use an external power source and use it for levitation.

But I still want a hover board.

[sigh] Less power in to the EG units than the generator puts out.  No.  It "proves" nothing, but no illustration "proves" anything, eh?

Whatever, Pim.

[Pimander]

If the technology is effective then prove it can be useful and I'm all yours. 

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

No DC is only good for local use, not for transmission. Tesla knew that too. But all this talk of free energy systems implies a local home system with no transmission required unless you want to set up a neighborhood power company

True, and you can get almost any appliance on 12v these days.
AND it's a lot less dangerous....
My own house is getting a 24v system, since all my sensors & valves are 24v...

[Amaterasu]

If the technology is effective then prove it can be useful and I'm all yours. 

Pim, I am not in the position of proving anything.  Like I said, I only have what My father taught Me of.  And that is pretty much literally.  But I do recommend Dr. Paul A. LaViolette's Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion.  Very good and persuasive info there.

[andolin]

Wiring your house with a 12vdc system isn't that difficult as Z has stated; refrigerators and most other appliances are available at a wide array of manufacturers, and I can give you several ideas how to use the RV type that functions on electricity or gas without having to use any gas in the desert; just need a closed loop heat exchanger to keep the freon hot and a trickle of power for the fan and compressor...


seeker

A pure sine wave inverter is recommended for sensitive electronic devices...a little more expensive.

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Hi All
Would it be possiable to take the info. on solar power from this thread and start a thread in the research area?

Much of the problems with storage and 12v to 120 ac related to solar are also a problem with the Tesla radient reciever that I am working on.

Ok the reciever is an obsession of mine.
With the random and primitave  tests I did last winter makes me believe that at the least 500 watts can be generated day and night. I am thinking with research and testing it could be a lot more than that.

I beg the admin here to start a new thread. Every other site that I even started to talk about a radient reciver I was shuned.
I hope that it dont happen here.

Bless
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[Pimander]

Send PlaysWithMachines a message.  If you need to be added to the inventors or Alternative Energy groups then he will let us know. http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=151

I'm pretty sure a thread like that is in the making.

[thorfourwinds]

Greetings:

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