are the mibs on here?

[TheJanitor]

There are many more ideas to work with than FE, AG, whatever. We don't have to design time machines, only better widgets and mouse traps. There is a serious lack of creativity out there, now is as good a time as any to make it happen.

[The Seeker]

There was a high school kid in Thunderbay Ontario Canada many years ago..

He invented a Carburetor that installed on ANY car of the day would give you minimum 100 miles per gallon...

Story is that the patent was bought off for 6 million.

Never heard of that kid again, which begs the question, did they pay him off for silence? or did they spend $1.25 for a piece of lead to ensure silence?

The story I am familiar with is of one Thomas Pough; the Pough carburetor on a '66 caddy sedan de ville with a 472 got over 80 mph, as the story goes; patent was bought by Standard Oil for 6 million, and 6 months later bro Pough assumed room temperature...


seeker

[TheJanitor]

Probably not the ideal place to post it, but whilst we are on the subject, we should have a call for inventions. Every six months, pick the best out, submit the paperwork, and sell. After a few years when the momentum is built up enough, tackle the big ones. Then we will be an actual consortium with a well funded revolution annex.


Otherwise I agree with the divine Pimander, we're burning rubber and getting nowhere.

[The Seeker]

There are many more ideas to work with than FE, AG, whatever. We don't have to design time machines, only better widgets and mouse traps. There is a serious lack of creativity out there, now is as good a time as any to make it happen.

I must agree; I am waiting on someone to configure an infernal combustion with super cooling; since we actually only pull approximately 3% of the available energy out of gasoline due to the heat issues...
or an improved version of Bob Lazar's hydrogen system that doesn't require a fed regulated nuclear isotope...


seeker

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Janitor,

There are many more ideas to work with than FE, AG, whatever. We don't have to design time machines, only better widgets and mouse traps.

By all means do so, but we're not talking about widgets here. As Z pointed out, many great patents get bought & shelved
No patents, No 'intellectual rights'-just free & easy plans to build your own free energy & antigravity future, and not be beholden to anyone. Certainly not those who have so much already...

There is a serious lack of creativity out there,

Really?

now is as good a time as any to make it happen.

It has always been a good time

Probably not the ideal place to post it, but whilst we are on the subject, we should have a call for inventions. Every six months, pick the best out, submit the paperwork, and sell. After a few years when the momentum is built up enough, tackle the big ones. Then we will be an actual consortium with a well funded revolution annex.

Not a bad idea, i have a whole forum on the subject....
While it may provide much needed funds for the consortium & it's research, we will of course be prevented from bringing anything 'taboo' on the market. Gadgets yes, Flying saucers or water powered cars, no.

Otherwise I agree with the divine Pimander, we're burning rubber and getting nowhere.

A muscle car does burn some rubber before it really gets going, we are getting somewhere, Pegasus has been around for just 1 year, remember....We're not even in 3rd gear yet.

I think we're doing fine, let's just not lose sight of our goals, or sell ouselves for a handful of rice

[robomont]

its hard to come up with the next cutting edge idea when we dont work everyday with cutting edge equipment and demands.

[Somamech]

its hard to come up with the next cutting edge idea when we dont work everyday with cutting edge equipment and demands.

Yeah excatly true mate.

We Need more leaks and this site HAS to be a place for Real Leaks 

MIB get ya arse in here ASAP

[TheJanitor]

its hard to come up with the next cutting edge idea when we dont work everyday with cutting edge equipment and demands.

Its hard to walk when our legs aren't strong enough.

Try this. A bathroom scale powered by a heat differential in the floor. What's new? It fits in with the rest of the tiles. All the way to the color and caliber.

Think like that. You don't need a facility, just drafting tools.

[deuem]

Since not everyone has tiles in the bathroom nor do theywant to rip up old ones just to add a scale, I think laying down a sheet that gets excited when you step on it would work out for all floors. Like a sheet of flexible mylar. Stick it in front of the sink or toilet as decoration when off and fuctionial when stepped on.

Like the fish tank strips that tell the temperature.

[andolin]

Its hard to walk when our legs aren't strong enough.

Try this. A bathroom scale powered by a heat differential in the floor. What's new? It fits in with the rest of the tiles. All the way to the color and caliber.

Think like that. You don't need a facility, just drafting tools.

How about one built right into the toilet seat, powered by the heat off your arse....It build im a couple of IC's and it can tell you your weight, give you your favorite news and talk radio, and check your voice mails...

[Pimander]

or an improved version of Bob Lazar's hydrogen system that doesn't require a fed regulated nuclear isotope...

There's a guy 100 yards from where I sit now with a Hydrogen Generator in his car.  He hardly ever has to refuel with gas.  surely we can improve on it?

I'll ask him what model he uses when I see him if you like?

[andolin]

There's a guy 100 yards from where I sit now with a Hydrogen Generator in his car.  He hardly ever has to refuel with gas.  surely we can improve on it?

I'll ask him what model he uses when I see him if you like?

Some guy is selling them online...
http://www.globalenergydevices.com/

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

How about one built right into the toilet seat, powered by the heat off your arse....It build im a couple of IC's and it can tell you your weight, give you your favorite news and talk radio, and check your voice mails...

...And it can tell you what you had for breakfast

[variance]

...And it can tell you what you had for breakfast

awesome....

my brain just shorted out.  so thats all i can say.  lol

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

There's a guy 100 yards from where I sit now with a Hydrogen Generator in his car.  He hardly ever has to refuel with gas.  surely we can improve on it?

I'll ask him what model he uses when I see him if you like?

You need to see this thread, Pim old mate;
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2786.0

For those of you who don't have access, here's a piece of it;

What i can tell you is that water can be split using very little energy, using a combination of techniques like high voltages, pulse circuits, resonance etc. And this can run your car, with a few slight modifications.

From Wiki:

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There is no documented proof that the system produces enough hydrogen to run an engine. To date no peer review studies of Meyer's devices have been published in the scientific literature, although his claims have been thoroughly discredited in scientific journals.[2]
Well, there is now 



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Lawsuit
In 1996, Meyer was sued by two investors to whom he had sold dealerships, offering the right to do business in Water Fuel Cell technology. His car was due to be examined by the expert witness Michael Laughton, Professor of Electrical Engineering at Queen Mary, University of London and Fellow of the Royal Academy of Engineering. However, Meyer made what Professor Laughton considered a "lame excuse" on the days of examination and did not allow the test to proceed.[3] According to Meyer the technology was patent pending and under investigation by the patent office, the Department of Energy and the military.[14] His "water fuel cell" was later examined by three expert witnesses in court who found that there "was nothing revolutionary about the cell at all and that it was simply using conventional electrolysis". The court found Meyer guilty of "gross and egregious fraud" and ordered him to repay the two investors their $25,000.[3]

Meyer's death.
Stanley Meyer died suddenly on March 21, 1998 after dining at a restaurant. An autopsy report by the Franklin County, Ohio coroner concluded that Meyer had died of a cerebral aneurysm, but conspiracy theorists insist that he was poisoned to suppress the technology, and that oil companies and the United States government were involved in his death.[1][2]
Wiki failed to mention he was attacked & beaten to the ground a few times...

In honour of this brave and talented man, we have decided to open source everything.

Members of the I.F. have done this research, and showed me their results. We swapped some ideas, and everyone went to their sheds to tinker.
So far we have at least 2 independent verifications of this technology.
We used both a low-tech and high-tech approach, both worked.

Here is Stan's original paper:

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?z77xjiunlxbwxdw

And here is an expanded version, with an independent analysis by P.G.Bailey and T.Grotz including legal documents, testimonies etc:

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?35nemclvf31mj65

Undaunted, we decided to go ahead, using both 'brute force' and 'resonant' techniques.

In other words, it's been verified several times....