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Disclosure: Sooner Rather Than Later?

Started by Eighthman, September 25, 2012, 07:36:37 PM

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Eighthman

Why should Disclosure occur sooner rather than later?

1) Political and Economic Unity are failing rapidly - as said in Macbeth, "if 'tis done, tis best done quickly'.  Spain is falling apart with the Catalonia Secession movement getting serious,  Portugal is losing its police and army to the mob and Greece's tax collectors are on strike.
If the US Goverment fails to deliver the goodies ( $), the nation could break up into anarchy. Read ZeroHedge today and find out why Social Security will go under twenty years ahead of schedule.

Disclosure needs to take place while governance still prevails, not amidst screams of 'invasion' by panicked crowds, desperate for food and supplies.  The US realized this in WW2 by preserving the authority of the Emperor in Imperial Japan -rather than treating him as a war criminal.  We are running out of time......

2) Loss of the Mainstream Media - newspapers and magazines are dying off and being replaced by the internet, for better or worse.  Disclosure is needed before this centrality of information collapses into the disunity of the blogosphere.

3) Obama - yes, Obama! He has the opportunity to be the greatest, most famous President in history by making the greatest announcement by a world leader: We Are Not Alone.  If not him, then his successor will be faced with this huge temptation.

IRCyborg

Obama already blew his chance, as he already stated emphatically that 'ET' doesn't exist within their radar....even though nearly all of the countries south of US have already disclosed the knowledge.

The 'shadow guv' made agreements with some of the interlopers, and they can't really just come out and admit that they have sold us out to foreign entities earthly or not...

Its all part of the big bullshit game...

Eighthman

If Obama can move the country away from supporting Israel, I think he can move us in the right direction towards disclosure.

There's two other motivations:  By Disclosure, he can begin to wipe out religious hate/war everywhere on earth. 

Amaterasu

Quote from: IRCyborg on September 25, 2012, 09:53:57 PM
Obama already blew his chance, as he already stated emphatically that 'ET' doesn't exist within their radar....even though nearly all of the countries south of US have already disclosed the knowledge.

The 'shadow guv' made agreements with some of the interlopers, and they can't really just come out and admit that they have sold us out to foreign entities earthly or not...

Its all part of the big bullpoop game...

What *I* want to know is why these ET's We were "sold" to think that anyOne but the Individual has any right to make choices for said Individual.  THEY (the Humans who "sold" Us) don't have that right.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Littleenki

Amongst the obvious reasons for and against the "disclosure" we have to ask..is there anything they can disclose?

How do we know our gubmint has sold us out at all...could they be as clueless as many of us are, and why would any self respecting ET race make any pacts with such a ridiculous dysfunctional leadership as we have here.

If I were them i would actually make the connection with some of the more common sense nations and then allow them to pick the USA's bones after the takeover or invasion or whatever happens.

In addition to thinking we are the end all of greatness on this planet, we have failed to see we are probably the worst choice for ambassadors to new arrivals.

Dont be surprised if soon the rest of the world gets fixed up by ET, and the US gets scuttled for parts.

And, dont even mention the religious complications of the Vatican losing their iron grip on the western civilization.

Theyll act like a little girl deprived of it's barbie doll, and lash out in a many fingered hand of doom.

And the bankers...well they will have their own form of delusional rebelliousness.

Id have to say disclosure isnt something anyone wants hidden any longer, and if it happens, us here in the US will witness something we cant even fathom.

Still, Id like to hear it from the president or another gubmint entity, as the capitol burns in the window behind them. 

ET come and save us! LOL!



I dont think he will look this cute......

Littleenki
Hermetically sealed, for your protection

IRCyborg

We are the interesting ones, and each and every one of us carries a spark within that many of these 'ETs' lost long ago.  They come here to learn from us.

We are the Gift, and this planet we share with our friends and families is the most beautiful and most diverse sphere in the Cosmos.

I know it doesn't seem like that too often when there seems to be war on every front and little but desolation and bloodshed on the TV set but all of that is an illusion to hide who were really are from ourselves.

We don't need any interlopers to help us work out our difficulties.  We don't need their shiny technologies.  We don't need a goddamned thing from them whatsoever...

All we need is Love.  Love starts from within, and radiates outward...and that was the message they received from those extra-solar planets so far away.  Most of them simply don't have it any longer and they want to learn...so they watch us.

Want to know how share the Cosmos with our extra-solar friends in waiting?  Learn to Love yourself, so that you may learn how to Love your neighbor...and when that kind of Love spreads it will spread across this planet like a rejuvenating wildfire.

In fact, it is our only hope....  No need to wait around for shiny discs or triangles in the skies to initiate the changes we need to become a Galactic civilization.

Love,
your neighbor.

Littleenki

Hey IR, love back at ya!!

True Love is the way, and some days its hard to feel it for my fellow man, but as it is the only way to heal the heart..I make room for it!

ET wont be a problem especially if they have to come so far to mess with us, eh?

I hope we can get back to where mankind was before the great cataclysm and the last precession. When Khem was able to be so balanced and the constellations went through exactly the same eliptical, we had a perfect world, but now the off kilter ways of our planet have infected the people who live on it. And the endless quest for agriculture has dominated our efforts for a very long time.

For me, I try to balance Love with tolerance for those I cannot find love for..seems to work pretty good so far!

Really, as the sun releases its supply of life giving goodness, we have a long road ahead full of hope...and it seems recently those alike us have taken that road with confidence as a niche society..we need to convince the rest of the wolrd, were on the right path, eh?

ET or not, we do have the capability to be the humans we were many millenia ago, and rebuild this planet with the right set of plans.

Cheers!
Le
Hermetically sealed, for your protection

zorgon

Disclosure

1) IF the government truly DOESN'T know what is going on, then there is nothing to disclose. The problem is no one will believe them if they say there is nothing to disclose

2)IF the government truly DOES have something to disclose, then they will have to keep that secret because if they reveal one secret, regular people will then say "what ELSE have you kept from us?"

So in either case...

THERE WILL BE NO DISCLOSURE  PERIOD

::)

The Matrix Traveller

The Governments are between a rock and a hard place I guess.    :D

Sadly NO DISCLOSURE !

There is a 3rd case.... Some Alien Civilization is Preventing Gov. from disclosing ?

But the result will be the same unless the present situation changes...  :D

i.e. If leaked bit by bit by some who are in the know....

Primus58

Perhaps disclosure is on a personal basis for those who truly seek it with pure intent, sort of what Dr. Greer teaches. Conversely, for some it seems to happen against their will. Lou Baldin states ET's are in control, that disclosure won't happen unless they approve.

What if one species approves of disclosure while another doesn't, and disclosure is a result of a battle that can no longer be hidden from the masses. Or, maybe humans do something stupid and they are directed to intervene! (Ha,  'maybe'..LOL)
:)

The Matrix Traveller

QuotePerhaps disclosure is on a personal basis for those who truly seek it with pure intent,
sort of what Dr. Greer teaches.

Category (A)

QuoteConversely, for some it seems to happen against their will.

Category (B)

Maybe both Categories exist ?

QuoteWhat if one species approves of disclosure while another doesn't, and disclosure
is a result of a battle that can no longer be hidden from the masses.

Now that is possible...   :D

petrus4

The thing that has always really annoyed me about "Disclosure," is the implicit meaning of the term.  The implied scenario is a President giving a televised speech, in which he makes official what everyone else already knows.  Why do we need that?
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

zorgon

#12
Quote from: Primus58 on September 26, 2012, 06:59:33 AM
Perhaps disclosure is on a personal basis for those who truly seek it with pure intent,

"Disclosure" to people in the conspiracy world means only one thing. A Government announcement that Aliens are real and we have been dealing with them. NOTHING else would be accepted :D

Knowledge on a personal level is not disclosure... it is simply knowing the truth. whether by experience (abduction, close encounter) or by channeling (but you might have channeled LOKI :P) or by hard research. You may know for sure they are out there, but unless you can produce one your in the same boat as the government... knowing the truth but not being able to talk about it and be believed

You want Disclosure?

To THIS man you listen, yes? Hmmmm?




sort of what Dr. Greer teaches. Conversely, for some it seems to happen against their will. Lou Baldin states ET's are in control, that disclosure won't happen unless they approve.

QuoteWhat if one species approves of disclosure while another doesn't, and disclosure is a result of a battle that can no longer be hidden from the masses.

Or, maybe humans do something stupid and they are directed to intervene! (Ha,  'maybe'..LOL)
   :)



zorgon

Quote from: petrus4 on September 26, 2012, 08:23:19 AMThe implied scenario is a President giving a televised speech, in which he makes official what everyone else already knows.  Why do we need that?


So we can have DISCLOSURE :P


And so we can look at the skeptics and say NEENER NEENER TOLD YA SO :P

biggles

Quote from: zorgon on September 26, 2012, 10:11:58 AM

So we can have DISCLOSURE :P


And so we can look at the skeptics and say NEENER NEENER TOLD YA SO :P

I do have one person in mind I'd love to undergo an anal probe quite a few times.  :D
I know that I know nothing - thanks Capricorn.