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UFOs Are Real, Should Be Studied

Started by sky otter, September 28, 2012, 02:27:24 PM

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/27/ufos-are-real-project-blue-book-robert-friend_n_1918266.html?utm_hp_ref=weird-news


UFOs Are Real, Should Be Studied, Says Ex-Project Blue Book Director Col. Robert Friend

Lee Speigel .lee.speigel@huffingtonpost.com
Posted: 09/27/2012 10:55 am EDT Updated: 09/27/2012 5:31 pm EDT

aol vid  here..can't move..go to link

Retired Col. Robert Friend, a former director of the Air Force's nearly 20-year UFO study, Project Blue Book,
http://www.archives.gov/foia/ufos.html
says that science should continue looking into the mystery of flying saucers.

Friend, assigned in 1958 to direct Blue Book, was charged with trying to determine if UFOs were a threat to national security and whether they could be of scientific interest.

"When I first took over the program, I wrote two staff studies, and in both instances, I recommended that [UFOs] be put into another agency which would give them full scientific investigations and analyses," Friend told The Huffington Post over the weekend at a special lecture titled "Military UFOs: Secrets Revealed."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/24/ufo-secrets-turn-out-to-be-strong-opinions_n_1907492.html

The event, held at the Smithsonian-affiliated National Atomic Testing Museum in Las Vegas,
http://www.nationalatomictestingmuseum.org/
featured Friend, seen below, three other retired military colonels and a former United Kingdom Ministry of Defense UFO investigator.




These days, the retired 92-year-old colonel acknowledges that he's spoken to more Air Force pilots than most people will ever meet, and he's heard their stories about strange things they've encountered in the sky -- objects that have come very close to their aircraft.

Despite the roughly 700 UFO cases labeled as "unidentified" during the Air Force's investigation of more than 12,000 reports, Blue Book was closed down in 1969. The project's conclusion: UFOs posed no security threat to the nation, nor did they display any technological abilities "beyond the range of present-day scientific knowledge."

But Friend, who was Blue Book director until 1963, didn't totally agree with the official findings.

During his tenure, he unsuccessfully tried to get the UFO issue moved to the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency as well as to the then-newly created space agency, NASA. He's had conversations with pilots and military officials who tossed the idea around that some UFOs might be alien in origin.

"Yes, there were some people who had those opinions. I, for one, also believe that the probability of there being life elsewhere in this big cosmos is just absolutely out of this world -- I think the probability is there."

Friend, the oldest surviving member of the famous Tuskegee Airmen of World War II,
http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/192752/434/Oldest-Surviving-Tuskegee-Airman-Speaks-To-9News-Now
was joined on Saturday at the UFO lecture by the man who served as Friend's chief spokesman for Blue Book between 1961 and 1963, Col. William Coleman.

Watch this video of Colonels Robert Friend and William Coleman




Coleman related an encounter
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/21/ufo-secrets-national-atomic-testing-museum_n_1902019.html
he had with a "classic flying saucer" over Alabama in 1955 while piloting a B-25 bomber. The 75-foot-diameter, circular disc got so close to the ground that it left a trail of dust behind it before vanishing in the sky.

When HuffPost asked Friend if the United States had any vehicle at the time that looked like or could perform the way Coleman described, he quietly said, "No." When further pressed on what Coleman and his crew witnessed, Friend instead cited a different case where an aircraft reported a UFO that turned out to be a meteor.

Yet, the soft-spoken Friend treads carefully when asked if he thinks aliens have already come to Earth.

"Do I believe that we have been visited? No, I don't believe that," he said. "And the reason I don't believe it is because I can't conceive of any of the ways in which we could overcome some of these things: How much food would you have to take with you on a trip for 22 years through space? How much fuel would you need? How much oxygen or other things to sustain life do you have to have?"

But would those same issues apply equally to an advanced civilization that may have already overcome the hazards of traveling through interstellar space?

Either way, Friend would like to see an ongoing scientific investigation of UFOs.

"I think that anytime there's a possibility of scientific pay dirt from studying these phenomena, that yes, it would be much better if the government or some other agency was to take on these things and to pursue the scientific aspects of it."

Check out these UFO videos from around the world ........vids at link




hey Zorg.. i am always finding this Speigel guy  wierd stuff..maybe he would like to come on over if you asked...did you happen to see him at this affair?
just a thought

Littleenki

Quote"Do I believe that we have been visited? No, I don't believe that," he said. "And the reason I don't believe it is because I can't conceive of any of the ways in which we could overcome some of these things: How much food would you have to take with you on a trip for 22 years through space? How much fuel would you need? How much oxygen or other things to sustain life do you have to have?"

But would those same issues apply equally to an advanced civilization that may have already overcome the hazards of traveling through interstellar space?

Either way, Friend would like to see an ongoing scientific investigation of UFOs.

"I think that anytime there's a possibility of scientific pay dirt from studying these phenomena, that yes, it would be much better if the government or some other agency was to take on these things and to pursue the scientific aspects of it."

Ummm...Mother ship?    Deep beneath the sea?  Hollow Earth theory?

So many places from within our little circle they could be coming from its comical...yet scientists always ask.."how could they come from so far away?"

My answer.."they dont, theyre already here and have been for a very long time" 8) 8)

Friend is one guy Id like to meet! :)

Le

Hermetically sealed, for your protection

karl 12

SkyOtter, great thread - Colonel Friend once said that during his tenure there were 'classified intelligence channels for reporting UFO's that completely bypassed Bluebook' and government docs also exist which state that 'UFO reports that were a threat to national security weren't even part of the Bluebook system' (link) so maybe there still is ongoing scientific investigation of UFOs by the U.S. Government.

Whatever the case it's becoming increasingly difficult to swallow the claims made in the USAF UFO factsheet that 'no government agency has ever taken an interest in UFOs since the closure of Project Bluebook' - especially in the  light of so much contradictory government UFO documentation.

Cheers.

The Matrix Traveller

Some of the Comments made by these so called Military or Defence Dept. officials
(Public Relations Officers) makes me  ;D

Like this comment made by "Public Relations Officers"  Quote;

QuoteHow much food would you have to take with you on a trip
for 22 years through space? How much fuel would you need?
How much oxygen or other things to sustain life do you have to have?"

Much "Alien Tech". is Nothing at all like that of the "Human species".   :D

There are Civilizations, Billions of years ahead of the human Species.   :D

Shortest time taken between any locations in this universe or crossing over into another
can be Instanainious..  :D

NOT Years...  LOL.

The Time taken, is only used to experience or study this Universe or any other.

It can also be a very, very scocial actinity as well...   :D   (Very, very Common)

Many Craft ("Transpoert Interfaces") do NOT use any type of "Propulsion Systems".
Nor do they involve "Electronics", "Antigravity Systems" or anything at all like these.   LOL.

"Propulsion Systems" is a human Concept.... NOT going anywhere....  LOL.

zorgon

LOL  Well I will be adding to this soon. I really am waiting for the full video and the one John's friend made.

When I have those I will put together a thread and we can merge your two on this as well

being there I can point out some key points, but it will really be better to have the whole thing

Mostly though I have been busy and no time to do the start up. Glad your on it  I will collect it all later :D

zorgon

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on September 28, 2012, 10:56:44 PM
Some of the Comments made by these so called Military or Defence Dept. officials
(Public Relations Officers) makes me  ;D

Well there is something you have to consider...

They are under orders to obfuscate... BUT if you pay close attention you will find some HOLY CRAP moments. A few comments made were really such moments and about as close to disclosure as you are going to get :D


The Matrix Traveller

QuoteThey are under orders to obfuscate... BUT if you pay close attention you will find some HOLY CRAP moments. A few comments made were really such moments and about as close to disclosure as you are going to get.

Looking forward to seeing the contents Z...    :D

FULL disclosure ?

The Human Species is NOT ready for that yet, perhaps sometime in the future though ?

When The Human Species gets their own house in order, then perhaps FULL disclosure will come about.

There are billions of different forms out there, even in our own atmosphere, but the Human Species"
has yet to define LIFE in its "True Context", let alone know how to recognize it at this stage...  :D

Amaterasu

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on September 28, 2012, 10:56:44 PM
Some of the Comments made by these so called Military or Defence Dept. officials
(Public Relations Officers) makes me  ;D

Like this comment made by "Public Relations Officers"  Quote;

QuoteHow much food would you have to take with you on a trip
for 22 years through space? How much fuel would you need?
How much oxygen or other things to sustain life do you have to have?"

Much "Alien Tech". is Nothing at all like that of the "Human species".   :D

There are Civilizations, Billions of years ahead of the human Species.   :D

Shortest time taken between any locations in this universe or crossing over into another
can be Instanainious..  :D

NOT Years...  LOL.

The Time taken, is only used to experience or study this Universe or any other.

It can also be a very, very scocial actinity as well...   :D   (Very, very Common)

Many Craft ("Transpoert Interfaces") do NOT use any type of "Propulsion Systems".
Nor do they involve "Electronics", "Antigravity Systems" or anything at all like these.   LOL.

"Propulsion Systems" is a human Concept.... NOT going anywhere....  LOL.

I think, if They have replicators, the answer to the questions:

How much food would you have to take with you on a trip
for 22 years through space? - None

How much fuel would you need? - None

How much oxygen or other things to sustain life do you have to have?" - None
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

sky otter

#8
got it, Zorg



and who says they even eat food...that's a very military pedestrian comment imo

maybe they are breahtartians.. or get there fuel from the sun
or don't need 'fuel' as we think of it at all..
not knowing them how can you equate them with us in any way

geeeeeeeeeeeze..you really get some dumb ass comments from those poor guys.....sigh



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hope you guys went and listened to the vid at the link..good one