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Full Disclosure: Why Soon?

Started by Eighthman, October 15, 2012, 03:14:20 AM

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Eighthman

Warning: In order for me to express this viewpoint, it will be necessary for me to speak plainly.  I will try to be entirely tactful.

It seems that UFO sightings have greatly increased across the past few years, while polls tell us that more people believe in extraterrestrial life and there is great enthusiasm for 2012 (however credible that might or might not be).

Why should full disclosure be near?  What would the reason be?  Why would ET's favor exposure soon?

It doesn't have to be forced by any economic or political crisis.  A little 'inspiration' here and there would deal with such problems and if we need free energy, that can be given to the human race discreetly, without direct connection to Alien intervention.

So, what does the human race need from Aliens that we can't provide ourselves?

Answer: a radical change in religious culture

Whatever your opinion of 9/11 might be,  the whole affair suggests that the human race may be doomed because more and more potentially destructive technology is getting into the hands of dangerous religious people.  I assert that both Islam and Zionism are powerful forces working against world peace generally.

It might be argued that economic progress is working to defuse this problem by increasing secularism but this process might be too slow to prevent disaster from warring religious cultures  triggering WW3.  Nazi Germany was highly advanced technologically but this did not prevent mass murder based on a history of religious hatred.  One could argue in a similar fashion  with regard to Israel and the Palestinian issue. The negative religious culture seems impossible to uproot - on either side.

I suspect that Full Disclosure may be needed to bring about an end to revealed religion and empower humanity towards a more spiritual future.  I have no trouble with the idea that these faiths were created by a superior intelligence to push humans away from barbarism.  It's just that they seem to have become an impediment, just as surely as diapers and training wheels would if they were retained after maturity is achieved.
It's a risky proposition to completely expose the UFO reality but not as risky as when the original Brookings report was written.  Times have changed, with the tolerant diversity of 'Startrek' feeding us with new memes. 




biggles

There certainly has been a lot more sightings that are close and eye contact maintained for long periods.

I, myself, think there are beings of high spirituality, meaning white hats I suppose who are making themselves known in no uncertain terms in case any shenigans like big false flags or other 9/11 tragedies are being planned to go down this year.

The baddies ofcourse we know are here but their not allowed to intervene in a bad way on a worldwide scale because they know if they try it there will be huge consequences and not from us.
I know that I know nothing - thanks Capricorn.

petrus4

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QuoteIt might be argued that economic progress is working to defuse this problem by increasing secularism but this process might be too slow to prevent disaster from warring religious cultures  triggering WW3.  Nazi Germany was highly advanced technologically but this did not prevent mass murder based on a history of religious hatred.

a}  The Holocaust did not happen because of religious hatred.  The Jews were not the only people killed in it.  Roma, homosexuals, and autistic children were as well.  The basis of the Holocaust, in terms of professed ideology, was eugenic.  Hitler thought that the Aryan/white Germanic ethnic group were the "Master Race," and wanted to exterminate others that were viewed as inferior. 

In other words, the Holocaust did not have an anti-Semitic or Judeo/Christian basis, despite what contemporary Zionists themselves might like you to believe.  You might be able to claim that there was a vague Hindu ideological basis, (given both the belief in Aryan superiority, and the origin of the swastika) but said basis would be exceedingly weak, and would be based on a gross distortion of Hindu theology.  It's also worth pointing out that contemporary Hindu belief in an Aryan conquest of India is not universal, either.

Speaking more generally, fascism and/or other totalitarian regimes, regardless of stated ideology, have an observable life cycle.  Said life cycle predictably ends with large scale mass murder, irrespective of the religious, economic, or political ideology professed by the individual(s) responsible.  The fascist life cycle does, of course, have a logical set of causative factors, but said factors have nothing whatsoever to do with the claimed ideology of the individuals involved.

b}  There is no provable correlation between an individual's professed ideology, and said individual's behaviour, I am afraid.

Christians try and claim that it is impossible for an atheist to engage in altruistic or morally positive behaviour.  It has also become fashionable for atheists to make the same statement about Christians.  Both premises are incorrect and emotively motivated, and are not supported by observable historical fact.

I believe that disclosure genuinely could be beneficial for both technological and broader social reasons, (primarily having to do with economic organisation, given the information that the Pleiadians, among others, have so far been willing to share) but religion in the context to which you are referring, is not the central issue.

If the appearance of positively/STO polarised extraterrestrials was to prove beneficial spiritually, it would do so as a result of human exposure to the very strongly positively polarised aetheric/enegetic current ("sphere," in magickal terms) of the extraterrestrials directly, rather than any particular ideas which they might give us.

Energy ultimately motivates behaviour, not ideology.  An STO (energetically) polarised atheist is capable of morally beautiful acts, while an STS (entropically) polarised Christian is capable of the worst evil imaginable, and vice versa. 

Energetic polarisation -> state -> motivation -> behaviour. 

Ideology, whether religious or otherwise, is not present in the above sequence.  Ideology is only ever used as justification for a particular form of behaviour after the fact, regardless of the actual relationship of said ideology, with said behaviour.  A Christian who decides to murder people, can then claim justification either from Jesus' violence in the temple, or from Old Testament precedent, after the fact.  Likewise, Darwinism could very effectively be used as a justification for atheistic genocide.

Change the energetic state in which an individual is immersed, and you will change the motivation within the individual, which then drives said behaviour.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

Littleenki

If we remember the comraderie and bonding the USA experienced with the post 911 feelings we had, whether it be false flag or psyops....we see that disclosure might have a temporary beneficial effect, yet would it fall by the wayside as did the post 911 feeling?
Or, would it snowball into a tool to chop down the current state of affairs in our country, as religion would take a massive hit to its credibility?

Of course we know mainstream religion would say...oh these aliens must believe in god, too, and they would pull out all the stops to make it seem status quo for thei followers, and then the non religious folks would be even more aggresive with their anti religious approach, to the end of it causing a greater rift betwen sides than ever.

In effect, disclosure could cause a greater discourse among men that not  if that were the case.

The best scenario would be for the government to lose its grip on society, and for some sort of honest and loving movement to take place, where we all realize nothing is as it seems, and weve all been pretentious in our ideas and beliefs.

Sort of a collective sheepish grin like a kid with their hand in the cookie jar..."oops, look how weve been..time to get our poop together now I guess."

Right now the elites are gathering the material goods and nothing more...they are trying to grasp for more power through possessions and power, without regard for love and cooperation.

And thats what separates the good from the evil...and the chasm is widening fast.

Yet duality is finding less toeholds in our world by the day.

Singularity as a chasm...could it be?
Now thats a paradox.

Le
Hermetically sealed, for your protection

Eighthman

A wise reply....

Anti-semitism was encouraged by belief in a Master Race but needed a firm bedrock of centuries of religious hatred behind it to place such emphasis on Jews, above other perceived enemies.

I see confirmation in my general viewpoint here in the failure of the war in Afghanistan. The US has lost, whether they admit it or not - and that may tell us that trying to reform such people is impossible in any reasonable timeframe.

And no, I don't buy into any political correctness that apologizes for a culture that shots 14 yr old girls to keep them away from school or rapes young boys (bacha) as a matter of course while growing opium for the world drug trade.

Religion influences behavior which is why we observe suicide bombers in Islam dominantly while Buddhism seems to prefer self immolation, as in Tibet and during the Vietnam war. Religion is, too often, the key ingredient to get people to commit horrors they otherwise might ignore - which is how jihadists get dreams in which their blown up comrades tell them to commit themselves to 'action' and join them in Paradise.  It's great, wish you were here.....

I come from a fanatical religious background myself and saying that it doesn't influence behavior seems beyond all belief.  This Meme/Archon/ Mind Virus needs to go into the trash heap of history.  It had a purpose once but no longer.

How can religion be ignored as a cause of war in the Middle East?  Politics is not enough to explain it and if disclosure gets everyone to focus on a cosmos that doesn't tell them that 'God is on your side', so be it.

petrus4

Quote from: Eighthman on October 15, 2012, 05:45:30 PM
How can religion be ignored as a cause of war in the Middle East?

Because psychopathy and religious adherence exist independently of each other.  You can have atheistic psychopaths to exactly the same degree that you can have theistic ones.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

Eighthman

Yes you can, hypothetically........but you don't.  It's crazed Zionists vs even more crazed Islamists.  Currently, the most atheistic culture by poll seems to be China and they are more interested in cash flow than blood flow.

Pimander

Some reading material for you.

Grant Cameron: Why is the Government Covering Up the Truth?

65 reasons why the government will probably not disclose.  So you either know aliens exist or not or you admit you don't and try to find out.

Somamech

They came many, many years ago, and we still aint rid of them.   :P



Soul haxxors they are. 

Somamech

Dislosure is mainstream... people dont want to buy into it though ;)

petrus4

Quote from: Eighthman on October 15, 2012, 06:30:31 PM
Yes you can, hypothetically........but you don't.  It's crazed Zionists vs even more crazed Islamists.  Currently, the most atheistic culture by poll seems to be China and they are more interested in cash flow than blood flow.

Ask the Tibetans whether or not the Chinese government ever murders people.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

Eighthman

more interested in cash flow still applies.  They have a claim to it as their own territory, as much as I sympathize with Tibet.

Somamech

Quote from: Eighthman on October 15, 2012, 08:24:23 PM
more interested in cash flow still applies.  They have a claim to it as their own territory, as much as I sympathize with Tibet.

Fitting huh when thinking of Tibetans ?



Somamech

Quote from: petrus4 on October 15, 2012, 07:05:08 PM
Ask the Tibetans whether or not the Chinese government ever murders people.

Better ask Aussies first there trooper ;)


Amaterasu

Quote from: Eighthman on October 15, 2012, 06:30:31 PM
Yes you can, hypothetically........but you don't.  It's crazed Zionists vs even more crazed Islamists.  Currently, the most atheistic culture by poll seems to be China and they are more interested in cash flow than blood flow.

I say the whole of the "Zionists vs. Islamists" is manufactured.
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