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Started by Amaterasu, October 15, 2012, 05:39:07 AM

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petrus4

Quote from: undo11 on May 15, 2013, 12:14:50 PM
god would not create something, knowing the future of that something, and then blame that something for something god already knew would happen.   in effect, blaming the mistake he knowingly created and encouraged to flourish, on the thing he created.  that makes no sense whatsoever.

Exactly the point.  I've known that Original Sin was bovine fecal matter for a couple of years now.  The whole point of that idea was social control.  Capitalism 101; Create a need, and then fill it.  Original Sin was the created need, and salvation was offered to fill it.  Once you recognise that in that sense at least, the need is bogus, you're out of the cage, and they have no hope of forcing you back in it.  We still need God, yes; but not like that.
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petrus4

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Quote from: undo11 on May 15, 2013, 03:49:17 PM
because jesus taught love for your enemies, he rises above the situation described in the garden, where man is cursed and his life span shortened, pain in childbirth and all that jazzola because we disobeyed.  heck the stuff we have to go thru as a result of the nerf in the garden, i wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

In my own cosmology, Genesis describes the beginning of Taurus; which is 6,450 years ago, as the Jews themselves record, give or take.  Taurus is the first 2,150 year block of three, which in total make up the Iron Age, or Kali Yuga.  This is the darkest and most degraded of all four Ages, when the positive content of the aether is at its' lowest point.

This planet is not only 6,450 years old in reality; it is simply that the beginning of Kali Yuga is as far back as we are allowed to remember, by the current ruling authorities of this planet.  We are given the choice of either Biblical creationism or evolution by the cabal, because both of those ideas have been invented by them, and thus, neither one of them hurts them. 

The cabal only ever give us two choices; and if you look into it, you will discover that each choice corresponds with one of the two sephirah, in total imbalance and exclusion of the other.  Creationism corresponds with Geburah, or severity; as does the political Right, and the Republican Party.  Evolution and atheism correspond with Chokmah, or Mercy...which to me also means anarchy, permissiveness, and the absence of a skeleton; as do the Democratic Party and the political/economic Left. 

The cabal have further confused things by switching the colours of the sephirah, as well.  Geburah rightfully corresponds with red, and Chokmah blue; but the Republicans/fascism/Capitalism (Geburah) has blue as its' colour, and the Democrats/anarchy/Communism is red.

If you look, you'll find that it all fits together.  Hindu scripture records that shortening of the human lifespan is a natural occurrence of the change in the aetheric environment, which is associated with Kali Yuga; and Hinduism's cultural memory goes back before the beginning of the current Kali Yuga as well.  It is one of very few sources of information that we have, which does go back that far. 

Yahweh is not responsible for the fact that man dies; or at least not in the manner in which it is depicted in Genesis.  The lifespan is variable, and depends on the quality of the aether in the varying ages.  The lifespan is shortest in the Kali Yuga, and the Mahabharata states that it is generally 100-120 years.  For Satya or Krita Yuga, however, which is the most positive of the four, the lifespan recorded is 400 years, but there are also stories of sadhus who meditated for tens of thousands of years.
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undo11

QuoteWe are given the choice of either Biblical creationism or evolution by the cabal, because both of those ideas have been invented by them, and thus, neither one of them hurts them. 

i disagree.  the info is accurate except where it has been deliberately mixed together and jumbled, the information is still there, but you have to weed thru it and put it in its correct position. 

mormons claim the reason old testament jehovah is such a mean guy is because he was a newly evolved god, who was  learning the ropes and that by the time we get to the advent of jesus, he's got it mostly figured out and thus the change in his approach to humans.  not sure i agree with that either.

as regards the creation story, i don't think the world was created 6000 years ago.  the opening of genesis chapter 1, is the end of the cataclysm that caused the ice age.  next  the re-terraforming and re-population of the earth's flora and fauna. then the introduction of a new worker type,  via cloning.  etc

you can see small hints through out the texts of the ancient world, including the bible, describing what happened before the advent of homo sapians or the re-introduction of them to the planet.  you can also find art clues in the form of sculpture and see evidence from crypto-archaeology as well.
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undo11

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allow me to explain.  there's tons of evidence that enlil is allah and that the islamic approach to women, children, laws and order, are classic old testament enlil.   i mean that guy hates females because we create more humans and he hates humans. 

jesus on the other hand, was very supportive of women and humans. in fact, out of the entire ancient world, jesus (and egyptians) was the first one to treat women good instead of like baby making slaves (more evidence that jesus was cleo's son).  i think this proves he was enki, and that the rivalry between enki and enlil, is still ongoing, thus why everything has such a dual nature to it. 

currently islam is posing as democratic, but it is far from being a democratic form of social order.   it's toxic and exceedingly anti woman, anti children, anti free speech, anti knowledge, anti just about anything you can name of any lasting human value.   democracy is only for the men, and everyone is in fear for their life, 24/7/365, where they've installed sharia. 

in saudia arabia, they are still crucifying people.  yes, crucifying.  unfreakinbelievable.
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this woman was arrested for not wearing her scarf the proper way in iran. you might think,  "these people have got to be kidding." nope they aren't.



that's textbook enlil.

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sitchin claimed that the anunnaki, particularly enlil, had a space command port on temple mount in jerusalem.  look at these people fighting over that spot of land called israel/palestine/canaan, about the size of the state of new jersey.   and tell me there isn't something really suspicious going on there.

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So what is that Pentagonal Structure, under The Mosque on the temple mount in Jerusalem ?    :)

undo11

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on May 16, 2013, 12:36:30 PM
So what is that Pentagonal Structure, under The Mosque on the temple mount in Jerusalem ?    :)

solomon's temple, which predated the dome of the rock mosque,  was not pentagonal. however it was egyptian. 
it looked like this



everything was covered in gold. as a result, you had to wear clothing that didn't generate static electricity, which is mentioned in the description of how to build the temple and care for its furnishings.
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Quote from: undo11 on May 16, 2013, 11:33:48 AM
jesus on the other hand, was very supportive of women and humans. in fact, out of the entire ancient world, jesus (and egyptians) was the first one to treat women good instead of like baby making slaves (more evidence that jesus was cleo's son).
That is hardly surprising.  Mary Magdelene (who initiated Jesus) was from a tradition linked to Egypt. See especially the section in orange below.




Taken form Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince's website

The two millennia of Church propaganda are over: Mary Magdalene, long patronised and marginalised as a reformed prostitute, can now assume her rightful place in the history of the Christian religion - by Christ's side, as his lover, spiritual equal, officiating priestess and even his chosen successor.

Representative of the Sacred Feminine - a human woman embodying the principles of the Great Goddess, beloved across the ancient world - Mary was the object of hatred and fear for the early Church Fathers.


The alleged skull of Mary Magdalene at Saint-Maximin in Provence, France

In crafting their own version of Christianity, and brutally suppressing anyone who held opposing views, they sought to recreate this feisty, intelligent and highly sexual woman as the dregs of humanity, so overcome by her alleged past as a prostitute that the rest of her life was spent in pathological self hatred.

Yet in making Mary the Magnificent come so low, the leaders of the early Vatican were actually opposing Christ's own wishes. In the Gnostic Gospels - such as the Gospels of Philip, Thomas and Mary Magdalene - it is perfectly obvious that Jesus thought of her as 'the Apostle of the Apostles', the 'Woman Who Knows All', who would sit at his right hand throughout all eternity.

The Gnostic Gospels also tell how she was threatened and hated by Saint Peter, whom Jesus despaired of for his stupidity - hardly the individual on whom he intended to build his church!


And is it any coincidence that the canonical, Biblical gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John barely mention her by name, while she is the star of those gospels the Church Fathers voted to reject?

Mary Magdalene: Christianity's Hidden Goddess (2003), which is dedicated 'To all those who have suffered at the hands of the Church', suggests that, as modern translations call her 'Mary called Magdalene', this is a title, similar to that of the great Old Testament Queen of Sheba who was known as 'Magda' - 'Great Lady'.

Was Mary Magdalene, like Sheba - with whom she is linked, even by the Church - also a black woman of aristocratic pedigree, probably of Egyptian origin? This might help explain why the male disciples - clearly not Christ's inner circle as we have been led to believe for 2000 years - found her intimidating and threatening.

Egyptian women were the most liberated of the ancient world, rich women especially so, and clearly she failed to behave like a typically submissive woman of 1st-century Palestine.
Jesus even kissed her in full view of the other disciples, and condoned her wearing her hair unveiled in public - which was deemed so outrageous that a woman could be divorced for doing so. He was clearly besotted with her.

In the inevitable Church backlash against the new eagerness for the Gnostic Gospels that has been fuelled world-wide by The Da Vinci Code, the Gnostic Gospels have been hastily denounced as of dubious theology. Yet - although they can be quaint and difficult to read, especially the passages dealing with the convoluted Gnostic cosmology - when they describe the relationships within Jesus' mission, they are not only consistent but clearly drawing on the same source.

Christ and Mary, Mary and Peter (and the other disciples) are depicted so vividly that it is obvious they are based on something real. If they had merely been invented, there would have been no mutterings in the ranks, no profound clash, no death threats. All would have been sweetness and light.

To the Church the message is clear: The real Mary Magdalene is back. Get used to it.

undo11

and that's because the rcc is enlil-ite.
it would take someone that hates humans, particularly women, to come up with some of the stuff they did. impaling  a woman on a spear in her private parts, those guys had to be either medically insane or possessed.  in africa, in current times, muslims are going around asking people what their religion is, if they say christian, they cut off one of their breasts and leave them to bleed to death, after raping them of course.   what would drive people to do stuff like that ?  it's got to be loathing of women and humans in general. 

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Quote from: undo11 on May 16, 2013, 04:00:32 PM
impaling  a woman on a spear in her private parts, those guys had to be either medically insane or possessed.
That is an obvious symbol and not supposed to be taken literally. ::)

undo11

i don't blame modern day catholicism for that stuff. i'm just totally flummoxed that it happened in the first place.  also, i've read extensively on the connections between the rcc and islam and i gotta tell ya, they are straight up enlil-ite, with some enki tossed in to make it look legit.  and they are in cahoots with each other, that's why islam is currently holding hands with democracy,  these 2 groups have had to contend with protestanism, atheism, paganism and judaism.  they saw the opportunity  to force their way back into power using socialism but they don't actually want things to be fair.  they just want things to be fair for them and screw everybody else.

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Quote from: Pimander on May 16, 2013, 04:14:32 PM
That is an obvious symbol and not supposed to be taken literally. ::)

Tell Jolies doc that mate LOL :D

undo11

#58
did you see the muslim scarf video above?  what a contrast! there's women draped in long black cloth sacks that look like funeral garb, and right next to them, a guy walking by in casual jeans and a tshirt.  not a care in the world. 

whereas the women are torturing each other over nitnoid details and having disobeyers carted off to be interrogated by the police for not having their scarfs tied correctly or their ankles showing. good grief
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Quoteeverything was covered in gold. as a result, you had to wear clothing that didn't generate static electricity, which is mentioned in the description of how to build the temple and care for its furnishings.

You know thats funny now you mention it undo !

Gold is revered now and it seem's many people yearn for that to be the reserve currency, yet in actual fact back in the last hay day of tech so to speak it may have been the easiest commodity to use. 

Damn good to have a few of you old timers back to inspire thought :D