Magnet-based FE device

[petrus4]

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/113781/Man_builds_a_machine_that_seems_to_go_on_forever/

We've got another potential free energy device, here.  This one is from an artist in Germany.  It's an interesting design, but I suspect it probably has the lowest surplus output, of any such claimed device that I've seen.  I think we'd need to create a very large number of these devices, before we started seeing truly meaningful power from them.

Still worth a look, though.

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

I know this, he's an artist with no formal scientific backround, yet his machine works.
It runs for months at a time & only gets stopped for maintenance & cleaning etc.
He is using a subtle mechanism of pendulums, balance & magnets.
He knoews that a system that is permanently out-of-balance will permanently turn, since nature is trying to restore that balance, & supplies energy to do it.

In itself, it won't generate enough energy to do useful work, BUT it does prove the concept of 'perpetual motion'.
Most people think perpetual motion does not exist, but forget that the humble electron is always in motion, even at absolute zero temperature.
There's not much we can do with this, but it's useful for people to see an example of 'overunity' in action. It will set them thinking, & who knows? one of those will see a way to use this imbalance more effectively.
Good post!

[petrus4]

In itself, it won't generate enough energy to do useful work, BUT it does prove the concept of 'perpetual motion'.

I would be interested in seeing a multiple node setup, with this apparatus.

By that, what I mean is, that we build a number (probably 12-16, for the initial attempt if possible) of copies of the initial machine, and run them in parallel.  I am not an electrical engineer, but I would then want to try and connect them together in such a way that the combined surplus, although minute on an individual or per-node basis, may be of sufficient quantity that it could be useful.

Do you know enough about the principle involved, that you would also know how to (even approximately) replicate the device?

Most people think perpetual motion does not exist, but forget that the humble electron is always in motion, even at absolute zero temperature.

I have always assumed that the orbit of the planets, represented a macroscopic demonstration of perpetual motion.

[Fruitbat]

NOW. Even I would pay a subscription fee if the site owner wanted the money to commision one of these...

This exactly what I want to see behind glass in a mall on a saturday, with a £50 prize being offered to a member of the public who can explain how it works....

So there's the cost of the machine, and the rental of the shop window, and food for the guys who give of their time to raise consciousness... there is no better advert for our cause an method of breaking teh conditining than to do public dems...

FB!

[Pimander]

Magnetic energy harvesting is to utilize magnetic field power to generate electric power. Electromagnetic energy harvesting is already in research and development, and researchers now finding new opportunities to harvest magnetic power from a permanent magnet. It is possible to Harvest magnetic energy using extensional vibration of laminated magnetoelectric plates, piezoelectric and piezomagnetic transducer materials.

NASA scientists are also working on magnetic energy harvesting. Magnetically forced extensional vibrations of laminated plates with piezoelectric and piezomagnetic layers are analyzed theoretically. It is shown that such a structure can be used to harvest magnetic energy and convert it to electric energy. The output electric power and the magnetic energy conversion efficiency are reasonably good in this experiment.

http://electronicsbus.com/magnetic-power-magnetic-energy-harvesting-magnetoelectricity/

There is a lot more out there.  The simplest way to harvest magnetic energy is to have an array of piezomagnetic material (which vibrates when the magnetic field changes like it does constantly) in close proximity to piezoelectric material.  When the Piezomagnetic vibrates it vibrates the piezoelectric material which then produces electrical energy.

FREE ENERGY.  Proven to work.  Very simple.

[Pimander]

This paper explains the technology.

Piezoelectric and piezomagnetic materials are common transducer materials. They used to be used separately. Recently, various composites and laminates of piezoelectric and piezomagnetic materials have been developed. *snip* Potentially these new materials and structures can be used for magnetic field sensors, current sensors, energy harvesters, transformers, and ME filters, as well as phase shifters.

    *snip*

It is shown (in the work covered by the article) that such a structure can be used to harvest magnetic energy and convert it to electric energy.

SOURCE: Full paper here. APPLIED PHYSICS LETTERS 95, 013511 (2009)

So we already have technologies that can harvest magnetism. Imagine the possibilities if we could run arrays of these to power everyday devices. No plug required

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

This exactly what I want to see behind glass in a mall on a saturday, with a £50 prize being offered to a member of the public who can explain how it works....

LOLLOLOL me too...

It works by delicately balancing gravity against magnetism.

You have a pendulum, delicately balanced on a gymbal that allows it to move both laterally & horizontally.

In working, it describes more of a circle.

The ball rolls to the lower edge of he rim, this would be opposite the pendulum, at the point where the pendulum starts to swing back, the ball approaches a magnet.

This pulls the ball forward (uphill, if you like) and a clever lever mounted between the tracks pulls the magnet UP out of reach, so the ball can pass underneath.

The magnet exerts some force on the ball once it has passed, but by now the pendulum has moved, tilting the rim, so the ball rolls 'downhill' again, gathering momentum.

The timing, balance, weight of ball, strength of magnet are all very precise, or it would stop.

I saw the plans once

(p.s. you owe me 50 bucks )
Pim, that's another great tip on technology, i bet it's our old freind Barium Titanate again, maybe with some Hafnium in there?
These materials can, simply put, work in reverse.
Cool!
Still an expensive material, though....

[Fruitbat]

HANG ON!!

That bloody great spring, if it's under tension could probably furnish three months worth of energy for what is in effect a very complicated escapment mechanism....

Let's just hold back that buying decision please.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, exemplifies up what is wrong with the world today...

Sigh. FB!

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

By the way, the initial energy came from the hand that started the ball rolling.

The energy that overcomes friction & thus powers the machine is indeed being supplied by the magnets. If they are good ones, it may run continuously for 120 years....thereby flagrantly flouting every rule in the physics book.

The magnets are performing WORK, something not allowed for in the 'work equation'

Oops

[Fruitbat]

By the way, the initial energy came from the hand that started the ball rolling.

The energy that overcomes friction & thus powers the machine is indeed being supplied by the magnets. If they are good ones, it may run continuously for 120 years....thereby flagrantly flouting every rule in the physics book.

The magnets are performing WORK, something not allowed for in the 'work equation'

Oops

TO be honest the work equation falls flat on it's face if I try and pick up my car. F-MA falls over, because I am deffo exerting some force against the mass, yet there is no acceleration whatsoever.

But as is so often true, I am often caught doing work yet achieving no result...

FB!

[Amaterasu]

Nice find, Petrus!  It's good to see the conversation developing towards a possible FE plan!

[Fruitbat]

While we are here...

I found this. It seems to be a variant of the adsitt ramp.
Does any one know how it works?

Looks a bit like a magnet motor to me.... Kids, eh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Vo2-Qb3fUYs

[Littleenki]

While we are here...

I found this. It seems to be a variant of the adsitt ramp.
Does any one know how it works?

Looks a bit like a magnet motor to me.... Kids, eh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Vo2-Qb3fUYs

Thats a cool project, built one last year and it worked great!

Also, a friend and I discussed a circular ring of these devices to propel a projectile along at great velocity, and on the skin of the projectile would be inductive pickup coils akin to a magneto in a outboard engine flywheel.

We discussed how the projectile would be shaped like a bullet, and allowed to accelerate fast enough to overcome the drag of the induction generator.

It was a cool idea we had and we drew several plans for it, yet never built one due to the apparent cost involved.

Luke and everyone, do you think this idea has any validity and deserves a bit of further investigation? I have a big box full of those parallelagram magnets still!

And, we talked about how the projectile would be suspended in the track so it didnt have any or minimal drag. Some really nice roller bearings perhaps?

I dont think maglev would work, due to the anomalous fields the lev magnets would have.

Nevertheless, this guy has created a real working prototype and must be rather proud of it to keep it locked in a bank vault! I love it!:D

Whatdya think folks?

Le

[Amaterasu]

Not technical enough to comment on the device...but was wondering what the point of the projectile was...  Who Ya thinking of aiming it at?  [grin]

[Fruitbat]

LE you are da man!!! YOUV'E DONE THIS??

JUST THINK about the big wheel at the fairground, how if you substituted a magnet for the gondola.
Made sure the next one enters the acclerator as the last one leaves as the wheel turns.

A bike wheel in it's front fork, some biggish magnets cable tied to the carbon fibre or plastic rim , and a bit of curved plastic mudgard with the array of magnets affixed slighty more cleverly than the ones on the wheel, actually...

How could it not work?

FB!