Hastings web site about UFOs and Nuclear Weapons

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I'm not disputing that there were reports prior to 1947.  I am referring to the volume of reports.  The volume of reports was much higher from 1947, certainly in the USA  - where nukes first appeared.  This is a matter of historical fact not speculation.

fair enough, but how many reports are we talking? hundreds of separate craft sightings , or the same craft zipping about , or a multitude of crafts , or even morphogenic craft, one size fits all ?

yet with all this activity it doesn't suggest what they were doing pre atomic ,  I can see why they might get excited about nukes and bombs etc , but where does their concern lie ? spoiled stock? or a sincere concern over sentience?

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[A51Watcher]

fair enough, but how many reports are we talking? hundreds of separate craft sightings , or the same craft zipping about , or a multitude of crafts , or even morphogenic craft, one size fits all ?

Some reports are of a single craft, some are of 3 craft, many are of a multitude of craft in formation, we even have several reports of a huge mothership with small craft going in and out of it.

The amount of reports are in the hundreds.

yet with all this activity it doesn't suggest what they were doing pre atomic ,  I can see why they might get excited about nukes and bombs etc , but where does their concern lie ? spoiled stock? or a sincere concern over sentience?

The pre atomic reports are few and far between.

The sudden flurry of reports in 1947 indicate our use of nukes was like stirring the hornets nest and suddenly we had overt sightings day and night that year.

Given the information now in our possession that they performed 65 different genetic upgrades on our species over thousands of years, I would say their concern lies in spoiled stock or even a spoiled species.

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have you guys read Fort's Books ? 'the book of the damned'. 'lo!', 'weird talents' and 'new lands' ?

just to see what you see so to speak

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[A51Watcher]

have you guys read Fort's Books ? 'the book of the damned'. 'lo!', 'weird talents' and 'new lands' ?

just to see what you see so to speak

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Sure. As Pim mentioned we are aware of many pre atomic reports such as Fort's books as well as 60,000 Year old Aboriginal cave and rock paintings -

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=8302.0

and also biblical paintings -

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=8548.0


But comparatively, over time these are relatively few and far between.

The modern UFO era, as this is dubbed, has been much more overtly scrutinizing our activities in detail than in previous times.

[Dyna]

The pre atomic reports are few and far between.

People were spaced out a bit more back then, I would bet many who saw things didn't tell anyone or told their Families and it stopped right there. Not many going to call the news and report so where would they report anything in those days?

TV did give you ideas yet just radio. Ideas for what you may have seen. If I had seen the group of nine or so lights that we watched slowly drop down in an isolated forest in the mountains in the early morning hours at Lake Lemolo Oregon, back then I would have had to think spooky spirit things or something not having heard of UFO's. I would never have told anyone as I have only told people online.

Television sales took off in the late 1940s following the start of individual stations in the largest cities. Only in such heavily populated places was the relatively high cost of starting and operating a station considered economically viable. TV set ownership thus initially possessed a big-city or, more accurately, metropolitan-area bias. Of the 102,000 TV sets in the United States in early 1948, two-thirds were in the New York area, from which most of the first TV stations operated.

http://www.lib.niu.edu/1993/ihy930341.html

[robomont]

green fireballs are probably copper oxide flares.
they are not foo fighters.all ufos glow but not all glows are ufos.
thankyou op for report and i too want your review of vimeo vid before i waste time and gig to watch.
im not downing op one bit.we just expect the best and as you know,pegasus is hard core.again thankyou A51watcher.

[A51Watcher]

People were spaced out a bit more back then, I would bet many who saw things didn't tell anyone or told their Families and it stopped right there. Not many going to call the news and report so where would they report anything in those days?

TV did give you ideas yet just radio. Ideas for what you may have seen. If I had seen the group of nine or so lights that we watched slowly drop down in an isolated forest in the mountains in the early morning hours at Lake Lemolo Oregon, back then I would have had to think spooky spirit things or something not having heard of UFO's. I would never have told anyone as I have only told people online.
http://www.lib.niu.edu/1993/ihy930341.html

Good points Dyna.

Only 'the modern UFO era' has the perspective of technology to view these craft from.

Before such perspective they were viewed through the perspective of the day, in which superstition often played a part, as spooky spirit things or sky boats of the gods or whatever.

Surely many reports are missing for exactly the reasons you mention.

[A51Watcher]

green fireballs are probably copper oxide flares.
they are not foo fighters.all ufos glow but not all glows are ufos.
thankyou op for report and i too want your review of vimeo vid before i waste time and gig to watch.
im not downing op one bit.we just expect the best and as you know,pegasus is hard core.again thankyou A51watcher.

You are welcome Robo. but the credit (and gfy) for this thread goes to Sky as OP!

Having been immersed in my own research projects for many years now and racing to complete them for release, I have not had time to keep up properly on new releases.

Getting updates from members here has been invaluable, this thread being a case in point.

I anticipate the movie will be every bit as impressive as the book is.

[space otter]

hey  51 or anyone

does anyone have any info on connecting the  Philadelphia Experiment/Start date October 28, 1943
with the ufo sightings?
and they had to  be setting it up before that

i've always felt that the ufo's were dimensional not galactic..but that's just me

[robomont]

it may be possible with the larger ships as they have more distance between points.which means higher voltages but i think it was invisibility using a/c voltage and high current.with big ropes being used as insulators /spacers to keep the cables from touching the ship.
i think 90% of the story was bs and just the physics facts are close to correct.

[space otter]

i think 90% of the story was bs and just the physics facts are close to correct.

Robo
i was only using that as a date/time to consider...while i can't claim to know what if anything happened.. there is usually a crumb of something happening with those stories.. even if it is a misdirection of the public

and IF ufo's are dimensional why wouldn't messing with invisibility factors or antigravity factors cause interest at the very  least..especially with the methods they were attempting.

someone tosses a bomb in your neighborhood you usually go look out of curiosity..don't ya?

it's all conjecture and opinion on my part 

[A51Watcher]

hey  51 or anyone

does anyone have any info on connecting the  Philadelphia Experiment/Start date October 28, 1943
with the ufo sightings?
and they had to  be setting it up before that

i've always felt that the ufo's were dimensional not galactic..but that's just me

Well the first book published early on before the subject became widely known and embellished beyond belief by others, reports a crew member on the deck saw a clear portal like a large teardrop materialize before him, and there appeared to be an alien seated at a console who looked to be as surprised to see him as he was to see it.

That may be the connection you are remembering.

[Pimander]

Well the first book published early on before the subject became widely known and embellished beyond belief by others, reports a crew member on the deck saw a clear portal like a large teardrop materialize before him, and there appeared to be an alien seated at a console who looked to be as surprised to see him as he was to see it.

I've been looking for that reference for some time.  I haven't even found the book, let alone the reference, so far.  If anyone can help there I'd be delighted.

Finding the date that book was written is important to me.

[space otter]

gez guys..

51
  i haven't read any books on it and if that IS A MEMORY i don't recall it yikes..
but the tear drop thing makes me think of the rocks in mexico..
and that i have seen that somewhwere
lol the circle enlarges

pim
  here are  some links  cause i don't know the name of the book you are looking for
with a name i might be better able to search

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=books+on+the+philadelphia+experiment

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=books+on+the+philadelphia+experiment&tbm=shop

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/montauk/rainbow/philadelphia_experiment.htm

and Z probably has more info..i'll go take a look
edit to add.. yep type it into the search  lots of angles to choose from

[robomont]

i got berlitz book but not teardrop story,first i heard of it.
the annotated book was published across the street from my uncles factory,berlitz book gave a name and i did a yellowpage lookup and got number,called number and got chewed out for calling it.libby or litton.my guess is litton microwave bulbs for sport model as some blueprints have glass microwave bulb as flux capacitor.
yes bac to the future gave all the basics.the giant speaker was reference to the mag coil and how it can be run by speaker amplifier.almost all the secrets to ufo propulsion are in that movie