Dumb Old Lady vs. Ancient Aliens Debunked

[ArMaP]

But a guitar string does vibrate up and down even if the tuning fork is horizontal (if the guitar is the right way).  That means some energy from the compression wave (sound) in the air must be turned into kinetic energy in an up and down motion.

The way things vibrate is related to their shape and/or way they are fixed onto other things. That's why a guitar string vibrates along two axis but not along the third (it's fixed at both ends, it cannot vibrate along that axis).

Based on that, I think that sound would make some heavy object vibrate more along the horizontal axis than along the vertical, as for that it would need to lift the object, something harder to do than to vibrate it from side to side and front to back.

But I may be wrong, obviously.

[Pimander]

The way things vibrate is related to their shape and/or way they are fixed onto other things. That's why a guitar string vibrates along two axis but not along the third (it's fixed at both ends, it cannot vibrate along that axis).

Quite right.

Based on that, I think that sound would make some heavy object vibrate more along the horizontal axis than along the vertical, as for that it would need to lift the object, something harder to do than to vibrate it from side to side and front to back.

I agree that more side to side vibration (horizontal kinetic) is likely due to the weight.  However, providing some/enough is transferred vertically, the stone will temporarily lift for fractions of a second and make it easier to move the stone.

You can actually demonstrate this using an elastic band. Fix one end of an elastic band to an object and the other to something that can't move.  Pull the elastic out and allow it to pull the object as far as it can back.  There will still be some potential energy in the elastic band (it will have some tightness still providing the object is heavy enough to give some friction with the surface.  Now hit a drum near to the object and the elastic band will pull it some more.  This proves that the vibration reduces the friction.

You may need to try drums tuned to different frequencies until it works.

But I may be wrong, obviously.

You are on this occasion.

[undo11]

k i sent it to your gmail addy.
can you post it in this thread?  or give me instructions how to post it?

[Pimander]

Posted at Undo's request.



Phew, finally done it.  Photobucket didn't like that png file for some reason.  I had to play about with GIMP. lol

[Littleenki]

I can see that being what Ezekiel saw!

Cool imagination, Undo!

[undo11]

the going away and returning thing, is the outerwheel spinning the cherubim away and toward him.    when it says the angels are in the wheels, they mean literally in the wheels. not inside the hole in the wheels. so imagine the outerwheel spinning.  the angels aren't fixed position, they rotate with the outer wheel, away and back again.  when the outer wheel is moving their wing tips touch each other and when the wheel stops, the wing tips must like drop down at an angle or something. 

[Littleenki]

the going away and returning thing, is the outerwheel spinning the cherubim away and toward him.    when it says the angels are in the wheels, they mean literally in the wheels. not inside the hole in the wheels. so imagine the outerwheel spinning.  the angels aren't fixed position, they rotate with the outer wheel, away and back again.

I always pictured a gyroscopic device of sorts, with a clear defined seat at the top for the figure to be seated in. I think the wheels were perhaps some sort of blurred spinning or pulsating feature which were described as wheels.

The faces are where Im a bit thrown off..Ezekiel knew what faces look like, its the machinery I think he descirbed in an archetypical manner.

Were the faces for different places along the stargate's maps? Instead of lettering or numbers, just pictures or reliefs of the people who occupied that particular destination?

Also, I perceive the glass in front of the figure, perhaps as a screen for a helmet, and not a windsheild as some have posed.

As for the wheels within wheels//well have you ever seen a track setup for an offroad vehicle?



Lots of possibilities there....

[burntheships]

49 and 36 Lady!

Refreshing to see people awake! Of course, there is nothing
like a fresh infusion of wisdom, Thanks Undo!

[undo11]

thanks pim for posting that.

BFT

aww you're too nice

[burntheships]

the going away and returning thing, is the outerwheel spinning the cherubim away and toward him.    when it says the angels are in the wheels, they mean literally in the wheels. not inside the hole in the wheels. so imagine the outerwheel spinning. 

You give me the word picture of a geroter. 

[undo11]

LE

there's 2 wheels. an inner one and outer one.  the outer one has 4 cherubim literally attached to it.   the reason the cherubim by themselves are shown first, is to depict the address each part must "dial."  the 4 faces on the cherubim are 4 different constellations during taurus (feet of calf) so it's a very precise address.  the inner wheel must contain representations of the constellations, which in this case are called "eyes", i think.   imagine if the outer wheel is moving while the inner wheel is stationary.  in this example, they show the gate dialing the parts of an address.

[undo11]

You give me the word picture of a geroter. 

lol i had to look that up lol

[Lunica]

If I hit a tuning fork tuned to the note E, in the same room as a guitar, then the two E strings on the guitar will vibrate in sympathetic resonance with the tuning fork.  The other strings will not vibrate.  If there is another tuning fork tuned to E that will vibrate too.  However a fork tuned to C will not vibrate.

So basically, if the sound from say a drum or large trumpet like device is tuned to the stone, then it makes the stone vibrate.  So what?




If we go back to this diagram, then we will see that if the stone is vibrating then it is not touching the ground all of the time.  When it is not touching the ground then there is little friction and the stone is easy to pull.

So, drums may not have just been to keep the workers pulling in rhythm.  Acoustic/sonic technology, may well have been used to assist in the movement of stone.

If we look for hints of musical instruments in association with construction in Egypt, perhaps in their artwork, my guess is that we will find some.

Aree. moving is one. Only lifting it to a higher place is something else. you still need a lot of force

[micjer]

Posted at Undo's request.



Phew, finally done it.  Photobucket didn't like that png file for some reason.  I had to play about with GIMP. lol

This reminds me of the flywheel that was used on the Coral Castle.  I posted a vid that described the mathematics behind it. 

Great thread.

[Pimander]

Aree. moving is one. Only lifting it to a higher place is something else. you still need a lot of force

Levers.  With a long enough lever one person could lift the Earth.



And acoustics....


A basic acoustic levitator has two main parts -- a transducer, which is a vibrating surface that makes sound, and a reflector. Often, the transducer and reflector have concave surfaces to help focus the sound. A sound wave travels away from the transducer and bounces off the reflector. Three basic properties of this traveling, reflecting wave help it to suspend objects in midair.  TEXT CREDIT: http://science.howstuffworks.com/acoustic-levitation1.htm IMAGE CREDIT: http://www.human-resonance.org/levitation_basins.html


Now take note of the shape of the concave reflectors above.  Compare that to the shape of the artefacts below.




Limestone basins were collected near the northwest corner of the remains of the giant obelisk at Abu Ghurab, each bearing identical forms and carefully rendered circular concavities. The identical dimensions and curvature of the many stone basins, with perfectly rendered geometric forms, gives the appearance of having been serially manufactured through mold-making processes rather than being quarried and carved in a solid state. Abundant evidence of this fact has been ignored for close to 30 years by much of the academic community, despite publication in scientific journals.  CREDIT: http://www.human-resonance.org/levitation_basins.html


Tibetan monks with trumpets.  Well boys, don't you have a big one?


According to the website that this picture of a Denderah, Egyptian relief is taken from, this is an electrical device.  Why then is there a guy with what appears to be a trowel stood next to it?  Why is there clearly association with figures lifting in the image?  Compare the instrument to the Tibetan trumpets. CREDIT: http://doernenburg.alien.de/alternativ/dendera/dend05_e.php





I could give you more details but surely you can follow this up guys.  I do have other mundane stuff to do like cloning arthropod venom genes.