Evidence of Intelligence and War in the Heavens

[thorfourwinds]

Evidence of Intelligence
and War in the Heavens

By Norval L. Cunningham and Gale Smart


We know from Rev 12:4 "And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth" along with Rev 12:9 "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him".

The two time periods for these two events has been narrowed down; the second event, the casting down of the old serpent has been substantially narrowed down to a specific time frame. The first event, the one third thrown down has been plotted in a period of time using the available evidence that has not completely deteriorated over time.

In the late 1800's astronomers were focusing their telescopes and attention to Mars. Astronomers such as: Rev. Pietro Angelo Secchi, (1818-78); Giovanni Virginio Schiaparelli, (1835-1910); Percival Lowell, (1855-1916); William Henry Pickering, (1858-1938); Andrew Ellicott Douglass, (1867-1962); Edward Emerson Barnard, (1857-1923); William Wallace Campbell, (1862-1938); William Huggins, (1824-1910); Camille Flammarion, (1842-1925); Eugine Michael Antoniadi, (1870-1944); Henri Perrotin, (1845-1904); to list just a few.

What the astronomers of the late 1800's were discovering was canals on Mars, first called canali by Rev. Secchi in 1858 and Giovanni Schiaparelli in 1877.

Many of these astronomers verified the canals and also noted seasonal changes on the surface that corresponded with the melting of the polar ice (see Mars Orbiter Laser Altimeter (MOLA) Science Investigation or The Encyclopedia of Astrobiology, Astronomy, and Spaceflight a simple encyclopedia with an alphabetic index or NASA's Astronomy Picture of the Day, Mars Then and Now.

In 1888 Perrotin described having observed dramatic changes in a feature, named "Libya" by Schiaparelli, and assumed to be a continental land mass. "Clearly visible two years ago, it no longer exists today," and "By 1892, Perrotin had switched his attention to watching for "bright projections" on Mars, reporting three in the summer of that year" according to the information from the The Encyclopedia of Astrobiology, Astronomy, and Spaceflight, in particular see the graphic drawing by Eugine Antoniadi of the Elysium region of Mars.

In 1894 Percival Lowell noted a tawny colored cloud of dust that extended over 300 miles and Percival Lowell from his research estimated the temperature on the surface of Mars to be an average of 48F noted from NASA MOLA Science. Percival Lowell's
temperature was later verified by the Russian Mars 3 lander.

In 1971 the Mars 3 recorded temperature readings on the surface of Mars "the coldest point proved to be the north polar cap, where the temperature was -110C (-166F); elsewhere the values ranged
from -93C to 13C (-135-55F),"

According to a Mars data web page, "Recent observations with the Hubble Space Telescope have revealed that the conditions during the Viking missions may not have been typical. Mars' atmosphere now seems to be both colder and dryer than measured by the Viking landers".

The Space Telescope Science Institute (STSci) report, MARS: A Cooler, Clearer World, states the fact several times that the Mars surface temperature has changed since Viking landing missions, constantly dropping in temperature. Fact, the Viking 1 landed on Mars on July 20, 1976, continuous recording data until Nov. 11, 1982, over six years of recordings. An excellent web site for Mars information is the European Space Agency.

In 1888 drastic changes in surface features were observed, 1892 bright projections were observed, 1894 tawny dust cloud was observed and by 1909 no signs of the canals existed according to Antoniadi.

"In 1899 drastic changes in surface features were observed, 1892 bright projections were observed, 1894 tawny dust cloud was observed and by 1909 no signs of the canals existed according to Antoniadi.

"In 1899, the International Peace Conference was held in The Hague to elaborate instruments for settling crises peacefully, preventing wars and codifying rules of warfare. It adopted the Convention for the Pacific Settlement of International Disputes and established the Permanent Court of Arbitration, which began work in 1902".   

(photo credit: sciencephoto)

In 1908 was the Tunguska explosion, later investigations reveal radiation reading at ground zero, "the source of radioactivity is in the ground", G. Longo et. al, 2000.

The League of Nations was "established in 1919 under the Treaty of Versailles" and and "ceased its activities after failing to prevent the Second World War". Revelations 13:12 "the first beast, whose death-stroke was healed", (KJV).

In 1934 the Atomic Bomb was patented, September 1, 1939 Germany invaded Poland. January 1, 1942 the United Nations was formed and on June 26, 1945 the United Nations Charter was signed, then ratified on October 24, 1945.

Revelations 13:13 "And he doeth great signs, that he should even make fire to come down out of heaven upon the earth in the sight of men."

1908 was the Tunguska explosion, August 6, 1945 the bomb was dropped on Hiroshima, August 9, 1945 the bomb was dropped on Nagasaki.

Revelations 13:14 "And he deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by reason of the signs which it was given him to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast who hath the stroke of the sword and lived."

Revelations 13:4 "and they worshipped the dragon, because he gave his authority unto the beast; and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? And who is able to war with him?"

The National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena (NICA) the first ever recorded sighting of an aerial unknown was by Kenneth Arnold, June 24, 1947. This does not include unknown airships depicted in art over the ages or unknown airships at the turn of the 1800's and early 1900's.


In 1954 National Geographic sponsored a Mars observation project at Lamount-Hussey Obervator, Bloemfontein, South Africa on Naval Hill an altitude of 4888 feet. From this National Geographic sponsored expedition 20,000 pictures were taken of Mars.

The National Geographic published the article September 1955, pages 427 to 436 written by Dr. E.C. Slipher. The picture in the National Geographic article reveals the areas mentioned as blue-green seasonal change.

These observations were in September 1954, two years before the 1956 planet wide dust storm.


An interesting fact, of all the observations of Mars over the years, even back to the late 1800's never was there mention of Valles Marineris (Valley of the Mariners).

Valles Marineris was never part of the canal renderings of the 1800's to early 1900's astronomers. Valles Marineris was not observed in 1954 in the project that resulted in observations of seasonal changes in 20,000 photographs.

According to a published article, NASA SP-441: VIKING ORBITER VIEWS OF MARS, M.H. Carr, W.A. Baum, K.R. Blasius, G.A. Briggs, J.A. Cutts, T.C. Duxbury, R. Greeley, J. Guest, H. Masursky, B.A. Smith, L.A. Soderblom, J. Veverka, J.B. Wellman :

-The canyons do not form a well integrated drainage system

-Indicate downward subsidence of canyon floors along faults

-Impact craters, which are so numerous on other Martian terrain's, are scarce within Valles Marineris

-No evidence of flow of water has been found within Valles Marineris, although some channels on the adjacent upland are abruptly truncated by steep canyon walls

-Because these canyons are poorly linked with one another, and their floors not a regularly graded slope, they could not have formed as water drainage features.


There was a planet-wide dust storm on Mars in 1956, then again in 1971 and seen again in 2001. The Mariner 9 satellite waited until the cloud storm of 1971 had subsided somewhat to activate the camera.

At that time Mariner 9 recorded the canyon Valles Marineris whereas the canyon had never been viewed as a canyon prior to Mariner 9. The canals had been viewed, surface changes had been viewed but never a massive canyon over 4000 km long from west to east near the Martian equator.

Mariner 9's images reveal a barren planet, with no apparent seasonal changes except for the polar caps Mars resembled a devastated planet.


In summary, from 1858 to 1909 Mars had observable features that astronomers attributed to intelligence. After 1909 the surface of Mars showed drastic changes from the first observed tawny cloud of over 300 feet tall in 1894 to planet wide dust storm in 1956. In around 1947 was the first major records of UFO data, * UFO Database.

The charted data reveals peak sightings in 1947, 1953, 1955, late 1957 and 1974. The largest amount of sightings being in the years 1947, 1953 and 1955. Anomaly, UFO and abduction web sites have proliferated the internet in resent years. Israel became an independent nation in 1948. So the throwing down of the old deceiving serpent can be narrowed down to the years between 1909 and 1971.

These entities thrown down by Michael are not from earth and lost the war in the heavens, making them the Losers. These entities could be called Extraterrestrial Biological Entities (EBE) or Extraterrestrial Intelligence (ETI) or Bad Extraterrestrial (BET).

This article originally posted here Earth's Banner Forum and seemed to want 'resurrection' and discussion in these times on PRC

[thorfourwinds]

Not one bite !

This was a test to see just how fast an item disappears from the front page and therefore, lost forever, it seems.   

BUMP

Let's see if this gets your attention:



The following is a direct quote from that site:


This web site is for those that know that our world is in deep trouble.

Economically, spiritually, even emotionally we see unrest and great concern by the peoples of our world.

Most people, if you ask them, seem to think we are on the verge of some great changes taking place or about to take place in our world.

From all walks of life and from every direction people are talking about 2012, about the pole shift of our planet, even Armageddon and possible ET invasion.

Have you noticed?

Are you feeling the stress in the world today too?

Many want to discuss these events in the world today and what may be causing them. What are your thoughts? Come talk with all of us in the forum, give us your views,

What do you know that would, or could explain all this unrest?

There is so much that we are not being told the truth about.


Wow! This touches all the right buttons for us.   

Sol System War

Uploaded on May 12, 2009
Is there evidence of ET's?
Watch this video and you decide.

And a bit of selected text from that site posted in 2009:

...bits and pieces creating a mosaic picture (speculative at best, but all I have)

- the latest tidbit comes from Gary McKinnon who discovered payroll files (if I remember right) to Navy Officers labeled as "Non-terrestrial officers" and listings of off-world cargo operations, in other words...]a secret space program as this info is not public.

- another is the recent videos by a guy named John Lenard Walson who has 10+ videos of supposed ships in earths orbit that he has been able to see and film through some special apparatus on his telescope (again speculative maybe even debunked) which is all over youtube and was quite the sensation when they hit the net...Rense published all of them and he has other zoomed in images of the moon.

John Lear goes into his search for the 4th astronaut killed in the Apollo 1 capsule along with Grissom, White and Chaffee. This can be read at The Living Moon on this thread as well as some other juicy stuff Lear always delivers. This particular 4th astronaut supposedly didnt go on any flights but was a liason to an already existing space program I assume.


William Cooper stated in his 1989 MUFON conference:

"The first moon landing was May 22, 1962 ...

or excuse me, that was the first landing on Mars.

I'm sorry, May 22, 1962, was the winged probe that used a hydrozine propeller, flew around approximately three orbits and landed on May 22, 1962, was a joint United States/Russian endeavor.

The first time that we landed on the moon was sometime during the ...

probably middle 50's,

because at the time when President Kennedy stated that he wanted a man to set foot on the moon by the end of the decade we already had a base there."


"What about Mars?" came another quick question.

"We have a base on Mars also," Cooper calmly replied.

"When did that happen?"

"I don't know the exact date but I know the project's name, it was 'Adam and Eve.'"

[zorgon]

BUMP

Let's see if this gets your attention:

COOL Moving Thingy 

[zorgon]

Norval... wow not heard from him since the demise of our work at Project Avalon

[zorgon]

I wish people would stop bringing up Gary McKinnon. That guy did NOTHING  Listen to his interviews and you will see that all he did was listen to Steven Greer's "Disclosure Project" then tap into some unsecured NASA desk tops that had nothing. I bet the spaceship picture he saw was that screen saver that made the fuss at ATS LOL

As to the list of Naval Space officers... well NASA has MANY NAVY astronauts on the payroll The first head of NAVAL Space command was even a NASA administrator The guy who killed NASA'a ET contact law

But Gary gets all the press like he is some big hero while our work gets plagiarized with no mention of us

[zorgon]

First Live Mars Probe to Land On Mars May 22 1962

[zorgon]

another is the recent videos by a guy named John Lenard Walson's who has 10+ videos of supposed ships in earths orbit that he has been able to see and film through some special apparatus on his telescope

John Lenard Walson's aka Gridkeeper was on ATS years ago. He got banned. I contacted him to present his stuff on Pegasus. He declined. He would never reveal his equipment, process or coordinates. At the time Russ Hamerly Senior IT exectuive from Boeing wrote to me and said he had access to a big scopw if we could get the coords.  NADA.

There are thousands of spacecraft up there, some huge.  But with out times and coords it is impossible to check

Seems he is content just to have a Youtube audience and turns his back on any serious research

[zorgon]

Jump Gates to Mars

When I first started into this stuff I had heard about the jump gates at Area 51 that led to Pinegap in Australia and the one to Mars. I first heard of them from John Lear and Dan Burisch

Then years later along comes Andrew D. Basiago and creates Project Pegasus  which he claims is a secret DARPA project that includes the jump gate to Mars.  He then claims that he has been to Mars and back many times

Today he is joined by Laura Magdalene Eisenhower who now claims she too goes to Mars regularly... Laura Magdalene Eisenhower is President Eisenhower's daughter.

And today the interweb is saying Obama makes regular trips as well


Laura Magdalene Eisenhower


Andrew D. Basiago

So where is the truth? And who is making all the press and money off this story?



I know it isn't us

[zorgon]

PS your FISH is working for ATS

[thorfourwinds]

PS your FISH is working for ATS 

That's how old that post was/is.   

Before our fishy sensibly migrated to PRC.       

The funny thing is/was - nobody gets it ...   

(Background the BUMP, people.)   Sheesh.
Good thing we're not being paid for views divided by comments...

tfw
Peace Love Light
Liberty & Equality or Revolution

[starwarp2000]

Re: Laura Magdalene Eisenhower's eyes

Man, look at those eyes! Almost like she is staring into infinity!

Mind Control? Alter? Makes one wonder 

[thorfourwinds]

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2249.0

[thorfourwinds]

NOVA | Astrospies

[thorfourwinds]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5VUTNLI4Uo&feature=player_embedded

Very Strange Phenomenon in the Sky - Observed by Jimmy Hotz - Lenticular Cloud UFO Chemtrail HAARP ?

Uploaded on Aug 6, 2007
http://www.jimmyhotz.com Jimmy Hotz the Producer Engineer and Author of the new book The Gates of Time observed this very strange and extraordinary yet beautiful rare cloud formation in Southern California near the coast.



We have lived in southern California for over 20 years and had never seen a cloud like this. Even when we lived in Texas and Oklahoma, where there are many major storms, we had never seen a cloud such as this one. It had a super density to it that seemed quite unnatural. In all of our travels, even to places that have Lenticular Clouds we had never seen a cloud with such unique qualities.

It has been described as everything from a weird lenticular cloud to a cloaked alien UFO / ovni, some have even suggested that it is a terrestrial chemtrail or HAARP-altered cloud and others that it is just ones of God's beautiful unique creations of nature. it should be noted that it held its form over time in a very unusual manner as well.

Certainly make your own decision as to what you think it is, but again having lived in areas with very intense weather and having traveled quite extensively, we had never seen a cloud that had all of the properties of the one in this video.



Of course, we were immediately interested, as this person is a contact of the webmaster at the site we be speaking of.   

(Anyone still with me/us?)

We thinks that Deuem, A51, 1WW, we the people, and many others, just might want to meet this person - and not just from his most interesting video.   


Check this out:




Computer Graphics World's 2001 Innovation Award for the 3D Graphics program Zuma which was conceived by Jimmy Hotz


One might wonder what this person has invented in the ensuing 13 years.   

Shall we invite him to PRC?

tfw
Peace Love Light
Liberty & Equality or Revolution

[burntheships]

Thor,

That is one strange venticular cloud.

Also rather interesting to learn more about the
graphics program he has created.