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Started by spacemaverick, November 15, 2011, 11:39:18 AM

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zorgon

#15
  Exuberant1

I found another camouflaged location/entry point - It even has simulated tire tracks on top of it:



40 29'23.30" N, 93 28'04.00" E  :D

Here is another similiar camouflaged location - also with simulated tracks:



40 29'32.50" N, 93 27'55.55" E

And Another One!:  :o




40 29'36.87" N, 93 28'11.68" E

My Goodness, they all look so similiar, perhaps they all hide the same sort of thing...

And also: they are all in the near vicinity of the area you termed 'underground'

zorgon

#16
QuoteOriginally posted by Mikey84 at ATS

If you use the feature on Google Earth that lets you look at old satellite images of the same area you can see that the funny white lines are being constructed in April 2005.

2003


2005


2006


You can see the construction in most of the past images.

It all looks very strange, the runway looking things look very odd.

Mikey



This was something I didn't know about, being able to look up older Google images  8)

zorgon

#17
QuoteOriginally posted by Mikey84 at ATS

Ok, I think this bit looks really weird!

I followed one of the roads leading out of the area, and look what it comes to, some weird gate?? You can see that the road goes inside the middle part of it. Odd, here is a pic and the location:

40°30'33.52"N, 93°14'14.62"E



Mikey

zorgon

  Exuberant1

That is strange.  I'd like to hear Zorgon's take on that one.

Nice find Mikey


So get this....I found another camouflaged building - I found it while checking out your latest discovery:




40 30'53.66" N, 93 13'58.70" E

Now if you head East of this location, the whole area appears to have been censored:



*Note: I should point out that some will probably try to argue that this area is not censored/intentionally obfuscated, and will ignore the fact that censorship can be accomplished by using older, lower quality images in place of more recent higher resolution/quality images wherein more detail can be discerned. They may also ignore the other incidents where google has actively cooperated with governments to hide certain areas. I think Zorgon has some good examples of this.  (Hey zorgon - could you please post a couple for us?)

Thus far over five camouflaged buildings/locations have been posted on this thread, so an effort to conceal is being made.  Whilst this may be a case of coincidence, the odds are certainly against it being so; based on the evidence.

And this is not a bad thing.  Not all conspiracies are bad; especially when it come to protecting secrets from the prying eyes who scan google earth.   Google conspires with us to conceal certain sites, so it should come as no surprise that other nations (even Asian ones) also enter into such conspiracies with google to have their sites concealed from our prying eyes - Using older or lower quality images to do this is a less conspicuous manner to hide things, and there will always be those helpful few who are willing to argue that such concealment is just a result of coincidence; irregardless of the evidence.   :up:

...But there is always a slight chance they may might be right.


spacemaverick

Thanks one and all for the input.  It is truly amazing what is out there that the general public does not know about.  I would expect any nations military to disguise their installations.  Sorry if I sounded a little defensive in a previous post.  I sometimes get excited about a subject or an article I jump into it with both feet.   ;) ;)
From the past into the future any way I can...Educating...informing....guiding.

zorgon

Quote from: zorgon on November 15, 2011, 07:40:09 PMThey may also ignore the other incidents where google has actively cooperated with governments to hide certain areas. I think Zorgon has some good examples of this.  (Hey zorgon - could you please post a couple for us?)

Sure...

Google Hides Military Base - Volkel, Uden, Netherlands

Volkel, Uden, Netherlands
+51° 39' 27.92", +5° 42' 8.09"




Unknown ICBM Facility -  Chukotka Autonomous Okrug

On Google Earth...
66°15'42.71"N 179°14'47.77"E




On TERRASERVER



On Microsoft's Virtual Earth

They used a clone brush to cover the area..


So look for cloned landscape when you google :D  Like this..



What is REALLY at that site? And abandoned mobile ICBM launch site close to Alaska and a secret runway now owned by the CIA. I had one of our Russian 'agents' :P send me some photos...







More here - Chukotka Autonomous Okrug

I have photos from the Woodpecker and the Tesla Towers also :D It is good to have our own spy network :D

And yeah... no guards at the gate... Anyone up for an excursion to secure Pegasus some of those old ICBM's? They might come in handy in the future :P








zorgon

QuoteOriginally posted by ANNED at ATS

Looks like a weapons effect test site

we had a couple of them at China Lake Calif. the walls around the center are to show how the fragments perform.
and the aircraft are set to show the damage to ground targets.

China Lake Weapons Test arenas.
35º 42' 27.77N 117º 38' 29.87"W
35º 41' 59.78"N 117º 38' 3724"W

As for the white patterns. When the US navy started to test cruise missiles they set up a target in the desert and fired the missile from off the coast.
between the time they mapped the route to the target someone graded a new road on the base near the target.

When the missile got to the new road it got lost and the controllers of the test had to destroy the missile.

In case the Chinese are checking ATS for secrets.
The Navy went to a different system for the missile to track by.   

zorgon

QuoteOriginally posted by fromunclexcommunicate
Me thinks a Nellis type bombing range might be a little rough on the ancient archeological sites in the region.

I agree... yet info is not easy to find on this area and I don't speak Chinese.

The Chinese equivalent of the Neveda Test Site for Nuclear Testing is here, not far from where we are looking right now. There is another archaeological site of real interest near the nuke site... something the Chinese didn't want the world to know back in the 50's-60's... that the original inhabitants were very tall white people. I am working on that as well

Never enough time :(

Here is the Area 19 of China... I also have the Russian ones (they have two) if anyone is interested

+41° 31' 50.13", +88° 49' 43.06"

Pimander

Quote from: zorgon on November 16, 2011, 01:31:50 AM
There is another archaeological site of real interest near the nuke site... something the Chinese didn't want the world to know back in the 50's-60's... that the original inhabitants were very tall white people. I am working on that as well.
I have been meaning to look into this in more detail for a while.  They were red haired.   Could they be in some way linked to the Shemsu Hor and Tuetha de Danaan...

zorgon

QuoteOriginally posted by defcon5 at ATS
Here is my first thought when I saw your OP:



QuoteOn the internet, a little mystery can go a long way.
Six weeks ago, a man living in Germany and calling himself KenGrok, announced a fascinating discovery on a Google Earth Community forum. Poring over satellite images of China on the free Google Earth service, he came across a strange plot of land - approximately 900 metres by 700 metres, about the size of six Sydney Cricket Grounds.

The land, which KenGrok said was landscape that had been modelled for military purposes, is situated near the town of Huangyangtan about 35 kilometres from Yinchuan, the capital of the autonomous region of Ningxia, in northern China. Nearby, there is a substantial facility complete with rows of red-roofed buildings, scores of what look to be military trucks and a large compound with elevated lookout posts and a large communications tower. The land was contoured in a way that was out of sync with the surrounding countryside. It appeared to be a mountainous region, complete with snow-capped peaks and glacial valleys dotted with numerous lakes. Yet this piece of land was slap bang in the middle of a largely arid area due west of the rich alluvial plains bordering the upper reaches of the Yellow River.

A fellow Google Earth enthusiast suggested that the topography indicated that this was probably a model of land on one of China's frontiers. KenGrok went looking and two weeks later came back with the answer. The swatch was a scale model of 157,500 square kilometres of territory in and around China's Aksai Chin border region that abuts India and Pakistan.

The scale is exactly 500:1.

Tim Brown, a senior fellow specialising in satellite imagery analysis at GlobalSecurity.org, said it was one of the more intriguing discoveries he had come across. He said that, while he was aware of military trainers using terrain models, these were mostly only on a much smaller scale.

Riddle of China's Area 51

My guess would be that those are Military Terrain Models, possibly being laid out as a topographical grid while they are being constructed, or for computer terrain recognition as mentioned with the cruise missiles above. If you notice, some of the white lines seem to follow terrain features. Interesting thread though Zorg...

Edit to add:
That is the exact same location, I found a video of it on DiscloseTV:


Chinese Area 51

Here is additional Information and Photos:





QuoteFor years many westerners, especially UFO researchers, have wondered where China's equivalent of the Area-51 in the US is without being able to pinpoint a location. Now thanks to an All News Web exclusive investigation we are able to solve this mystery with a high degree of certainty.

Recently this article along with photos appeared in the Govt owned Chinese regional newspaper, Sichuan Daily. The most curious article, titled 'A large number of Air Force SU-30/SU-27 fighters assemble in China's Area 51',refers to an area in the Sichuan province and includes some photos. The article mentiones that a large scale gathering and training exercise involving China's hi-tech SU-27 jet-fighters is taking place there at the current time. Strangely, the article does not specify the exact location of this event.

Even stranger is the article's lengthy explanation of the original Area 51's alien and UFO connection all while referring to this area as China's equivalent. Thanks to some sharp-eyed local readers, the area has been now been identified as within the Chengdu Military Zone near the city of Chengdu which is the capital of the south-western province of Sichuan. The specific field lies between the Chengdu Military Area Air Force Command headquarters and the Bai Shiyi (White City) Military Airport. Does this represent a leak by the Chinese authorities designed to reveal that they too possess UFO technology?

Many will be asking why China is now engaging in these intense military exercises. Others will be asking if there is a connection to this area and the alleged UFO bases high in the Himalayas to its west or if activities here have anything to do with the multitude of mass UFO sightings occurring throughout China. One thing is for certain, China's newly revealed Area 51 probably holds some earth-shattering secrets.

Breaking news: China's real Area 51 UFO zone revealed
Michael Cohen m.cohen@allnewsweb.com


It was really odd seeing an ATS mod and skeptic like Defcon using All News Web as a source :D

zorgon

#25
The Area KenGrok found is not the same as this one (The one in the movie you linked is the same) 

The KenGrock Area is one I was going to post another thread on but I will add it here as its only one location

Huangyangtanzhan
1:500 scale model re-creation of Aksai Chin

+38° 15' 57.00", +105° 57' 6.50"[/b]




QuoteOn the west side of the village Huangyangtan is what I take to be a military facility of some kind (judging by the masses of olive-colored trucks parked there). And right next to that is a scale-model of a landscape. I haven't tried to identify which region it depicts, but it doesn't seem to be a model of the region where this has been built. The model is mostly mountain ranges, complete with lakes and snow-capped peaks.

Googling Huangyangtan comes up with a number of reports about anti-desertification measures to be taken there (assuming this is the same Huangyangtan as I have found here). There does seem to be a lot of tree-planting around the facility and the model. But not enought to stop sand from blowing into Beijing. The whole area to the west looks like a military exercise area. Maybe if I could read them the giant Chinese letters painted onto some of the hills would tell me more about that area, at least.

In any case, any ideas what the function of this model landscape has?

-- KenGrok

http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showthreaded&Number=484568&site_id=1#import

The area is a scale map of Aksai Chin..
35° 7' 0' N, 79° 8' 0'" E[/b]


QuoteAksai Chin is a region located at the juncture of China, Pakistan, and India. It represents about one fifth of Jammu and Kashmir. It is administered by China and claimed by India. Aksai Chin is one of the two main border disputes between India and China, the other being the dispute over Arunachal Pradesh. Aksai Chin (the name literally means "Chin's desert of white stones") is a vast high-altitude desert of salt that reaches heights up to 5,000 metres. It covers an area of 42685 km2 of the disputed territory. Geographically part of the Tibetan Plateau, Aksai Chin is referred to as the Soda Plain. The region is almost uninhabited, has no permanent settlements, and receives little precipitation as the Himalayan and other mountains block the rains from the Indian monsoon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aksai_Chin

zorgon

QuoteOriginally posted by Hump01 at ATS
I also found a possible Wind Farm and Solar panels here   40°30'46.65"N 93°14'31.30"E I also have some pictures of the buildings in the immediate area if you want to see them.











The Solar  Panels are to the right of this one.
Hump

  Exuberant1

Thank you Hump!

Those are some nice images. And right on time

zorgon

#27
Incidentally Hump is also the 'agent' who got us those pictures of the Russian silos above through a friend in Russia :D I invited him over to join us here now. Going to have to go through my list make sure I gave everyone the forum address

  Somamech

Fascinating Find :up:

Those white lines could also be used for this:

Recognizing white line markings for vision-guided vehicle navigation by fuzzy reasoning

QuoteWei Li, Goutao Lu and Yongqiang Wang

Department of Computer Science and Technology, Tsinghua University, Beijing 100084, China

Received 15 October 1996;
revised 19 June 1997.
Available online 12 May 1998.

Abstract

This paper presents a new method for recognizing white line markings for navigation of an autonomous vehicle that operates in out-door environments. A fuzzy-reasoning-based general technique for edge detection is used to classify a pixel in an image into a border region or a uniform region based on luminance differences between this pixel and its neighboring pixels. The idea of this paper is to integrate special knowledge about white line markings into a fuzzy rule base using this general technique. The method is implemented on the THMR-III mobile robot, and experiments show that this method is robust to noise and environment changes.

Author Keywords: Image processing; Fuzzy reasoning; Robot vision; Navigation; Autonomous vehicle

Recognizing white line markings for vision-guided vehicle navigation

FULL PDF paper here:
http://www.cs.csubak.edu/~wli/Wei_Li_Pub/PRL_97Li.pdf

More publications by
Selected Publications of Dr. Wei Li


The characters in this pic that posted say "Geography Museum"



reply to post by JustMike

Nice work on that and I must say I was more floating the idea mate rather than saying this is how it is ;) 

Working where I work I only see un-classified but in saying so I do see how much money is spent on the mentioned. 

Seeing no-one reads this thread I can tell you that Orbital Space Based weapons are made in Adelaide OZ.  :P

Now could those weapons be using that grid point as a calibration ?

If one was to believe that then most of what you read on ATS would be thrown out of the window as the cover up reach's much deeper on this rock than what most like to believe  :o

and that is where I stand on this issue ;)

zorgon

#28
QuoteOriginally posted by scobro
I would like to urge everyone to have a look at this;

40°22'32.88"N 93°50'46.01"E

These coordinates show by far the strangest structure in the area!

yes that one is also extremely odd..
I haven't looked at that one in detail yet though...

Posts in this thread transferred from

Odd Markings in Xinjiang (Sinkiang) Region
Area A White Lines
40°27'02.68"N, 93°44'37.82"E

and my thread at ATS;

Odd Markings In China... Signal to passing space craft?

sky otter

#29
 ;D
holy smack those conspiracy nuts on the head ,batman... ::)
..imagine my surprize to see this as  one of the headlines and with the photos..


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45323827/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/odd-patterns-
chinese-desert-spy-satellite-targets/

Odd patterns in Chinese desert? Spy satellite targets
Expert says mysterious images no big mystery — and there is more to story...

Newfound Google Maps images have revealed an array of mysterious structures and patterns etched into the surface of China's Gobi Desert. The media — from mainstream to fringe — has wildly speculated that they might be Chinese weapons-testing sites, satellite calibration targets, street maps of Washington, D.C., and New York City, or even messages to (or from) aliens.

It turns out that they are almost certainly used to calibrate China's spy satellites.

So says Jonathon Hill, a research technician and mission planner at the Mars Space Flight Facility at Arizona State University, which operates many of the cameras used during NASA's Mars missions. Hill works with images of the Martian surface taken by rovers and satellites, as well as data from Earth-orbiting NASA instruments.

The grids of zigzagging white lines seen in two of the images — the strangest of the various desert structures — are spy satellite calibration targets. Satellite cameras focus on the grids, which measure approximately 0.65 miles wide by 1.15 miles long, and use them to orient themselves in space



.........................

Since the initial reports of these structures became widespread, industrious readers of the gadget blog Gizmodo have spotted a few more interesting structures in China. One, Hill said, appears to be a weapons testing zone, perhaps for evaluating explosives. Elsewhere, a giant grid resembles a Yagi antenna array. Instruments like this can be used for any number of things, such as weather tracking, space weather tracking and high-altitude atmospheric research.

Hill noted that most of these structures are quite closer to each other. "I think we're seeing some sort of military zone/test range, which explains the large amount of equipment and technology in an otherwise remote area," he said. "Sometimes the truth can be just as interesting, if not more so, than the conspiracies that people come up with." 


..so there..take that you conspiracy folk.....hahahahahah.....i'm still laughing..

more at the link

8)