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Started by robomont, December 17, 2012, 06:33:46 AM

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spacemaverick

There are times that law enforcement agencies do not put all the truth out there to the public.  Some agencies have their different reasons.  Some say they do want to give a heads up to the public regarding their response so an unsavory person would know their tactics.  Some do not say anything because they have something to hide where the agency or someone in the agency made a mistake and it would make them look bad.  Sometimes the culture in a particular law enforcement agency is one where a particular unit doesn't want their bosses in the agency to know  a set of facts because it makes them look bad.  The signs are there for these incidents but people are either not paying attention, they don't want to make a decision to tell someone, you name it.  Having retired from a law enforcement agency, I have seen some of these things happen.  This video of the Columbine killings is another example.  After Columbine, the agency I worked for along with others began active shooter training and trained quite frequently.  But anyway, watch this video about Columbine and you will see the warning signs.  The three years everyone talks about Adam not being seen can be possibly explained by his "aspbergers."  I have a relative that has this and he stays to himself but is extremely bright (intelligent) and very focused.  Anyway listen to this video.



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spacemaverick

#106
Once you have viewed the above video, compare the situation to Sandyhook.  Tell me what you think?  Also notice that SOME tactics have not changed since Columbine.  The tactics in Columbine regarding going into a scene was not to go in and seek out the gunman.  Now after Columbine in active shooter drills they actually go into the scene  and clearing rooms one at a time seeking out the shooter.  You will have a staging area away from the scene and call for ambulances as needed so as not to have more casualties of first responders.  Active shooter training is pretty much standard in procedures nationwide.  Medical first responders are not armed and could become a casualty themselves thus complicating the response to injured people.  At Sandy Hook they were still searching the woods so ambulances would stage away from the scene for safety and would be called up as needed by police once the area was made safe or was under the protection of armed police officers.  ANYWAY COMPARE THE SANDY HOOK VIDEO WITH THE COLUMBINE VIDEO.
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burntheships

Wow, just found that in addition to the FEMA drills 20 miles from the school,
there was another drill about 25 miles down the road!

There were two drills on the same day at the same time, one 19 miles
from the school, the other one about 25 miles...


Rather bizarre, yet predictable in a way....there were two drills on the same day,
one in Bridgeport, CT...and one in Carmel, NY



Shooter Drill - Putnam County CT - December 14th, 2012

QuoteBy grim coincidence, even as the terrible events were unfolding in Newtown on Friday morning, the Putnam County Emergency Response Team ("ERT") happened to be assembled for regular training in Carmel, and team members were at that very moment engaged in a mock scenario of an active-shooter in a school. The ERT is comprised of specially trained and heavily armed officers from the Sheriff's Office and the Carmel and Kent Police Departments.  When news broke of the Newtown shooting, the Putnam County ERT commander called Newtown Police and offered to have the ERT respond to the Sandy Hook school, but that response was not needed because Connecticut police had already secured the scene.

As information circulated about the Newtown violence, the Sheriff's Office notified school district officials in Putnam County. The Sheriff's Office and local police departments dispatched patrols to establish a security presence at area elementary schools and to augment the security already in place at most of the high schools and middle schools in the County, where deputy sheriffs are regularly assigned as school resource officers ("SROs").

http://southeast.patch.com/articles/sheriff-putnam-officials-to-talk-school-safety-this-afternoon

QuoteIronically, members of the Putnam County Emergency Response Team—a highly trained group of officers used when crises of this type occur—were training Friday in Carmel.

Sheriff Don Smith said the team members contacted officials in Connecticut and offered their assistance: "Our ERT was thanked but since the scene in Connecticut was secured in a matter of minutes, there was no need for the local police to respond."
http://www.putnamcountycourier.com/news/2012-12-13/Front_Page/Connecticut_Horror_Too_Close_To_Home.html

http://www.putnamsheriff.com/news/security-increased-putnam-schools-and-public-facilities-following-newtown-tragedy
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petrus4

Quote from: spacemaverick on January 15, 2013, 05:19:13 PM


Yes, Columbine was a black op.  One of the earlier ones, and definitely one of their more subtle operations.  Watch the surveillance footage from Michael Moore's film, though.  The giveaway was actually the shooter's degree of professionalism.  Whoever did it was very, very good...far too good to be a kid.
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Littleenki

Good posts Amy and BTS..

And, even with all this evidence piling up, does anyone really think the government is going to chop off its own foot to spite it's leg?

The white house could have a video of the shooters being armed and briefed on the attack by special forces, then given the go to attack with Lanza nowhere in sight, and the result will still be absolutely nothing.

Thats the sick part of all this..they throw it out there in our faces, then slap us with it when we look twice.

Until the masses start to wake up and demand something real and immediate be done about Sandy Hook it will go down in history as just another terrible day for many..and another day in gun control history.

Sandy Hook? The obvious false flag that will go unexposed. Sad...
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Amaterasu

#111
I tell You, Adam never existed:




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Deathcoyote

Honestly, I felt the whole thing was staged from the beginning based on the administrative action taken "due" to this event. A load of crap imho.

petrus4

Quote from: Littleenki on January 16, 2013, 03:13:07 AM
Until the masses start to wake up and demand something real and immediate be done about Sandy Hook it will go down in history as just another terrible day for many..and another day in gun control history.

The problem is that you've still got too many pseudoskeptical, materialistic atheists who will demand that everyone else be "reasonable," where in this case, reason is defined as taking the government entirely at its' word.  I wish I understood why the atheistic model of reality was so dependent on centralised authority; whether that of the "scientific community," or the government.  It is apparently irrational to dispute the decrees of large, centralised institutions, simply because they are  large, centralised institutions.
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Deathcoyote

Quote from: petrus4 on January 16, 2013, 04:32:51 AM
The problem is that you've still got too many pseudoskeptical, materialistic atheists who will demand that everyone else be "reasonable," where in this case, reason is defined as taking the government entirely at its' word.  I wish I understood why the atheistic model of reality was so dependent on centralised authority; whether that of the "scientific community," or the government.  It is apparently irrational to dispute the decrees of large, centralised institutions, simply because they are  large, centralised institutions.

Hell yes, well said!

Amaterasu

#115
And here is the beginning of the fallout from this made-for-TV "event:"


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spacemaverick

In the last paragraph of an article for the shooting (coming from the Newtown Bee)  the man in the woods running from the scene was another jurisdictions  SWAT officer.

http://newtownbee.com/News/2012-12-27__14-58-27/Police%20Union%20Seeks%20Funding%20For%20Trauma%20Treatment

As Shooting Probe Progresses
Police Union Seeks Funding For Trauma Treatment

By Andrew Gorosko

As police this week continued their probe into the December 14 incident involving 28 shooting deaths, including 20 first-graders and six staff members at Sandy Hook Elementary School, the lawyer who represents the Newtown Police Union is seeking help from the town, state, and federal governments to extend paychecks for "three to five" town police officers who were so traumatized by the incident that they have not yet been emotionally able to return to work.

Police union lawyer Eric Brown said this week that three to five of the town police officers who responded to the crime scene have been off work and collecting sick time pay in light of their being traumatized by the school shooting incident.

However, because the town provides only ten sick days for an officer annually, those police now face the prospect of being off work without pay, Mr Brown said.

The town police department has 45 members. Mr Brown said he expects that potentially 15 town police officers could be clinically emotionally affected by their response to the incident.

Mr Brown said that workman's compensation is keyed to providing funds for people with physical injuries, not emotional injuries such as post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD).

The town government has been receptive to the plight of the police officers who have not returned to work, but the town does not have paycheck funds designated for such situations, Mr Brown said.

PTSD is an insidious long-lasting emotional condition, Mr Brown said.

Police face serious, intense situations on a daily basis, he said. But what occurred at Sandy Hook School on December 14 was something on a magnitude that could not have been imagined, he said.

Twenty first-graders and six school staff members were killed after a 20-year-old gunman shot his way into the K–4 school on Dickenson Drive and went on a shooting rampage with a military-style assault rifle.

State police, town police, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, and the US Marshals Service this week continued their methodical probe into why Adam Lanza of 36 Yogananda Street, Sandy Hook, committed the horrific crime.

Adam Lanza had shot and killed his mother Nancy Lanza, 52, in her sleep at their home before driving to the school and going on the gunfire rampage. After police encountered him at the school, Lanza shot himself to death, bringing the total number of the dead to 28.

State police this week declined comment on their investigation into the mass murder incident. An investigatory report on what occurred, including a possible motive for the gunman's actions, is expected within several months.

Newtown Police Chief Michael Kehoe said he supports the police union's drive to have financial compensation provided for the police officers who are off work due to their emotional reaction to the shooting incident.

Since the shooting incident, police from other municipalities have aided Newtown police with local patrol work.

"They [other police] are done, but can be called in, as needed," he said of Newtown's ability to have other police cover local patrol work, as needed.

On Christmas, local police patrols were fully handled by police from other towns and cities, allowing town police to have the holiday off.

Chief Kehoe declined to answer questions about the police probe into the shooting incident, referring such queries to state police.

Investigation Progresses

As the police probe has progressed, some facts of the case have become clear.

According to a reliable local law enforcement source, Adam Lanza attempted to destroy all his computer equipment to prevent any tracing of his Internet usage and his electronic correspondence. It is thought that "some or most" of the computer data will be retrieved from the damaged equipment.

The source confirmed that Lanza used a Bushmaster-brand military-style semiautomatic assault rifle to kill all victims at the school. Lanza also carried two pistols.

Also, Lanza used a different rifle to kill his mother by firing four shots at her while she was in bed at home, according to the source. Adam Lanza left that rifle at Lanza residence.

Also, Lanza shot more than 100 rounds and possibly hundreds of rounds of ammunition at the school, according to the source.

Lanza was not wearing any "body armor" when the school incident occurred.

Additionally, a teacher at the school who realized what was occurring during the shooting incident crowded all of her students into a rest room adjoining her classroom and then pulled a bookcase in front of the bathroom door to obscure it from view. The people hiding in that bathroom survived.

A man with a gun who was spotted in the woods near the school on the day of the incident was an off-duty tactical squad police officer from another town, according to the source.

This is an article from the Newtown Bee.  This was supposedly the guy that was placed in the front of the police car.  Of course, we don't know how truthful this report is.  Why would a police officer from another jurisdiction be there and running from the scene.  More questions.
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micjer

Quote from: Amaterasu on January 16, 2013, 04:54:21 AM
And here is the beginning of the fallout from this made-for-TV "event:"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4f2h5EiWPY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Again, it's httpS




QuoteBank of America has decided that they are our lords telling us what we can and can not purchase!!!! ASK THE JEWS OF GERMANY HOW THE PROCESS BEGINS! They werent allowed to purchase things they needed/wanted either.


This was a comment on the bottom of the video.
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undo11

someone else said in the video comments on youtube, that BoA didn't say that, and the video is some kind of hacked together thing to make it sound that way.  i'm not fond of what the banks have been doing lately either, but falsely accusing them is not the best idea, that's for sure. 
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micjer

Quote from: undo11 on January 16, 2013, 01:57:59 PM
someone else said in the video comments on youtube, that BoA didn't say that, and the video is some kind of hacked together thing to make it sound that way.  i'm not fond of what the banks have been doing lately either, but falsely accusing them is not the best idea, that's for sure.

Nice catch.  Yep looks like video is a hoax.

Quote
My husband and I called Bank of America ourselves this morning, because we also have a credit card through the company, and we talked to a supervisor. Let the supervisor? hear the below video for themselves. The supervisor assured us that there is NO block on any of their cards to keep people from purchasing fire arms or ammo. I explained to the supervisor that about 83 thousand people have already watched this video and he was quite concerned. I guess we'll see what happens when the next bill.
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