new sandyhook info

[Amaterasu]

ArMap, if that doesn't answer Your Q... [shrug]  Maybe you should rephrase...?

Meanwhile, there's this article:

http://usahitman.com/wcshcaswah/

On Friday, January 25, 2013, on the The Power Hour w/ Joyce Riley, a woman by the name of 'Bonnie' called in and reported that the Sandy Hook coroner, Dr. H. Wayne Carver II, was spotted in Las Vegas. The woman claims she has information that she obtained from a close friend, who owns a business in the area.

She claims, "he just got back from Las Vegas, now mind you, this business owner is not like one of us – you know, he is just a normal citizen, but he told him he said –  he was in Las Vegas and he was at one of the tables, and across the table from him was the coroner from Sandy Hook".

"He took a picture of him on his cell phone, and uh, so the guy they got, they got to talking when he saw him take a picture and the man said... "You know, this is pretty fishy about Sandy Hook and its starting to look like a hoax," and the doctor said, "it was a hoax."

More at link.

[ArMaP]

ArMap, if that doesn't answer Your Q... [shrug]  Maybe you should rephrase...?

OK. What I mean is: how do those photos on the memorial sites appear?
The families are (usually) the ones that have photos like that, so could it be that those photos were given by the families to be published?
If it was, would any media company need "a big contract" to be able to publish them?

PS: I saw more than one site that had some of the photos presented as "handouts". What does that mean?

[Amaterasu]

OK. What I mean is: how do those photos on the memorial sites appear?
The families are (usually) the ones that have photos like that, so could it be that those photos were given by the families to be published?
If it was, would any media company need "a big contract" to be able to publish them?

PS: I saw more than one site that had some of the photos presented as "handouts". What does that mean?

My opinion?  The whole thing is fake from start to finish.  Given that some number of "memorial" sites went up before the incident...  (Couldn't be glitches on THAT many regarding dates!)  The photos were selected months (if not years!) before it "happened."  And that's why People had all the pics and a story ready to go.

And it's because pics are all so readily available that I reel in the stench of fish.  Getting all those photos with permissions in so short a period of time (and before the fact in many cases) is unheard of.

And sure.  The "handouts" likely offer a way You can donate money...  And sure, They play on the emotions and not the intellect.  And yeah.  If this was a hoax (by far the greatest probability), those photos would easily be available from the perps - especially with donations being solicited.

[ArMaP]

Given that some number of "memorial" sites went up before the incident...  (Couldn't be glitches on THAT many regarding dates!)  The photos were selected months (if not years!) before it "happened."  And that's why People had all the pics and a story ready to go.

Do you mean that People Magazine got the photos from memorial sites? I haven't seen any memorial site, so I don't know about it, the first photos I saw, as I said before, were on a British newspaper's website.

Getting all those photos with permissions in so short a period of time (and before the fact in many cases) is unheard of.

Could you show me an example of how long that takes? Thanks in advance.

And sure.  The "handouts" likely offer a way You can donate money...  And sure, They play on the emotions and not the intellect.  And yeah.  If this was a hoax (by far the greatest probability), those photos would easily be available from the perps - especially with donations being solicited.

I don't understand it, I think I may have misinterpreted the "handouts" meaning. I saw those photos presented (as far as I understood it) as "handouts" on media sites.

[Amaterasu]

Did You watch the vid I posted in #155?  I don't know where People got the pics from - but I strongly suspect They were in on the whole deal.  If so, They used the same source.  But the pics They used are the same ones as on at least some of the memorial sites.

No I can't show You "an example of how long that takes," but consider:  IF this was a real event, They would have to:

1.  Contact the families - all 20+ of them.  A week, maybe?
2.  Get the families - who are GRIEVING - to be interested in signing paperwork.  Another week to maybe as much as three?
3.  Get ALL the families to agree - and I know MANY who are just not interested in the press when They are GRIEVING.  So...  For ALL of them...  Six months?

Guesses, yes, but reasonable.

As for "handouts..."  Maybe *I* don't have a clue here.  A "handout" is like a flyer One hands out to People - and usually it's to inform of some event...or to raise MONEY.  As far as *I*'m aware.  What is the purpose of these "handouts?"

[micjer]

Very strange that the magazine put it all together so fast indeed.

More high strangeness.....

Take a look at this pic of Gene Rosen inside his house.

How many of you would have a painting hanging on your wall like the one behind his couch.   Odd don't you think?



http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/rosen-worked-at-fairfield-hills-cia.html

[Amaterasu]

Reminds Me of the "art" in the Denver Int'l Airport...

[micjer]

I never thought of that, but it does!

[micjer]

You guys remember the pic of "Gene Rosen" in the Fema advertisement? Which was proven not to be.



It is from this  website....

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:FEMA_-_37563_-_FEMA_representatives_talking_with_children_at_a_Law_Enforcement_celebration_in_Texas.jpg


Did anyone read the Description on the bottom of the page?

Description


English: Harlinger, TX, August 19, 2008 -- THIS IS NOT A PICTURE OF GENE ROSEN BUT THIS WEB PAGE WAS CREATED TO THROW YOU OFF TRACK.


HUH??  Someone explain this for me

[micjer]

picture from inside the firehall


http://twitter.com/AudreyNBC/status/279626037783060482

[ArMaP]

Did You watch the vid I posted in #155?

I started watching the video, but after the first 3 minutes the guy starts shouting and I stopped watching, I only watch videos if I have some reason for doing it, most of them are just a waste of time.

1.  Contact the families - all 20+ of them.  A week, maybe?

A week?! For something that can be done in a day?

2.  Get the families - who are GRIEVING - to be interested in signing paperwork.  Another week to maybe as much as three?

Oh, the famous "big contract"? I suppose you don't have any example of one of those either...

3.  Get ALL the families to agree - and I know MANY who are just not interested in the press when They are GRIEVING.  So...  For ALL of them...  Six months?

What about point 2, above? Wouldn't that be enough? What's the point of point 3?

Guesses, yes, but reasonable.

Or maybe not.

A "handout" is like a flyer One hands out to People - and usually it's to inform of some event...or to raise MONEY.  As far as *I*'m aware.  What is the purpose of these "handouts?"

From what I have seen the "handouts", in cases like this, are the photos that are sent to the press to be published, but seeing that English is my third language I may have misinterpreted it.

[ArMaP]

More high strangeness.....

Take a look at this pic of Gene Rosen inside his house.

How many of you would have a painting hanging on your wall like the one behind his couch.   Odd don't you think?

That's a bad painting, I wouldn't have it in my home.

My home is full of good paintings and I don't even like to have them, I don't know what people have against blank walls.

What's the relevance of the bad painting? What's strange about people with bad tastes? Isn't he an American? 

[ArMaP]

You guys remember the pic of "Gene Rosen" in the Fema advertisement? Which was proven not to be.

It's the first time I see it.
I don't understand what was proven, that this was not a FEMA advertisement or that it wasn't Gene Rosen?

Did anyone read the Description on the bottom of the page?

Description


English: Harlinger, TX, August 19, 2008 -- THIS IS NOT A PICTURE OF GENE ROSEN BUT THIS WEB PAGE WAS CREATED TO THROW YOU OFF TRACK.


HUH??  Someone explain this for me

You do know that anyone can change a Wikipedia page, right? Click on the "view history" link at the top of the page and you will see when the image was posted and what has been changed on that page and who did it (either a registered Wikipedia user or an IP address)

[ArMaP]

picture from inside the firehall

What am I suppose to see in this photo?

[micjer]

Actually I didn't know anyone could change a wiki page.

The firehall pic is simply posted for the reason that I personally don't think it looks like a group of people that has just experienced a mass shooting.

Locally we had a tragic accident recently where 5 teenage boys were killed in a car accident on their way home from a cancelled high school hockey game.  There was not a dry eye in the school and many students/teachers and parents were unconsolable.  This looks more like a group waiting for  direction.

I am only posting what seems odd to me.  I would really love to see evidence that it did happen the way it was told, but that does not seem to coming forth.

That Rosen character changed his story so many times.  In one interview he said that he took the kids up to the firehall, the next minute he was saying the parents picked the children up at his home.   Well which is it???