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Started by robomont, December 17, 2012, 06:33:46 AM

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ArMaP

Quote from: micjer on February 15, 2013, 10:48:10 PM
Well this one has the same angle as the still from the video.
It's not the same angle.

ArMaP

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Quote from: ArMaP on February 18, 2013, 11:48:04 PM
It's not the same angle.


Taking a close look, it's not the same background...

should be with so little POV change...
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ArMaP

Quote from: thorfourwinds on February 18, 2013, 11:57:06 PM
Taking a close look, it's not the same background...

should be with so little POV change...
It depends on the distance from the camera and the distance to the background.

In the image from the video we see only a corner of the building, on this new photo, taken more to the left, we see what's to the right of the building's corner.

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Quote from: ArMaP on February 19, 2013, 12:04:31 AM
It depends on the distance from the camera and the distance to the background.

In the image from the video we see only a corner of the building, on this new photo, taken more to the left, we see what's to the right of the building's corner.

ARMAP. you can play with the photos all you want to, but it is the same pic, of the same people. And besides that, the people this pic are shown the same, even if there are 100 different photos.

Incidentally, can you know that these pics are not narrow croppings of a wide angle photo?

And as I said, there are "no tears flowing" !!!

ArMaP

Quote from: rdunk on February 19, 2013, 03:42:32 AM
ARMAP. you can play with the photos all you want to, but it is the same pic, of the same people.
If there's a difference then it's not the same photo, obviously. I don't understand how anyone can say it's the same photo. ???

QuoteAnd besides that, the people this pic are shown the same, even if there are 100 different photos.
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean.

QuoteIncidentally, can you know that these pics are not narrow croppings of a wide angle photo?
First of all, a wide angle photo would not look like this, this a photo taken with telephoto lens, not a wide angle lens. Second, if there are any differences in the angle from where the photo was taken it means that the images are not from the same original photo.

QuoteAnd as I said, there are "no tears flowing" !!!
So what? Not all people shed tears at all sad occasions. In fact, if they were actors, it would be easy for them to shed some tears, after all that's what they do.

ArMaP

I found another photo that shows the difference between two photos taken from the same spot but with different lens (or lens configuration).

First, the more famous.


Now, the one I found today.


We can see that they were taken from the same angle, as the relative positions of the people don't change.


But we can see the background changing. In one of the photos it looks like things in the background (the windows and the bush) look closer than on the other. That's the result of using the telephoto lens' zoom.

Zoom makes things that are far away bigger, but not only that, it makes them appear closer to each other, making it hard to know if, for example, a car is far behind the people or just close to them.

I hope that helps. :)

simon_alex0327

The background still dosent change between each picture as much as it changed in the GIF you posted at the top of this page. It just looks so different.

micjer

The pic you found today, has a red truck in the pic!  Where did the car go?

Btw I think the red truck should be there.  When I blow up the overhead pic of the firehall the red truck can be seen.
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ArMaP

Quote from: simon_alex0327 on February 20, 2013, 03:30:41 AM
The background still dosent change between each picture as much as it changed in the GIF you posted at the top of this page. It just looks so different.
If you are comparing the two animations I posted on this page, then yes, this last one changes only a little because there wasn't a noticeable change in the position from the camera, there was a change in the configuration of the lens that changed the area that the camera could see and the amplification of what was seen.

ArMaP

Quote from: micjer on February 20, 2013, 03:35:20 PM
The pic you found today, has a red truck in the pic!  Where did the car go?
What car? ???

rdunk

Quote from: ArMaP on February 20, 2013, 10:22:37 PM
What car? ???

I think what he meant is "where did the red truck (car) go"? I wondered the same thing when I saw it. However, it is obvious that this pic seems to be cut back/clipped so that the truck is just taken out of the pic - at least that is how I see it.

Yes, the red truck is shown in the overhead pic.

micjer

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