new sandyhook info

[micjer]

Now this video picks out the discrepancies I was talking about earlier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=3Lw59iK0lHg

Also in the previous video you would send in the K-9 first.  No matter if it is locked they must clear the building anyway.  Systematic clearing of all areas will be part of protocol.  We had a deputy killed where I live because they did not send in the K-9 to start with.

I am not saying it was a hoax but there are serious flaws in the whole incident.

Yes nice link.  More questions than answers that is for sure.

[ArMaP]

Frig me here's another one!  Different again!!!

It looks like that photo was taken very slightly to the right of the other photo (if it wasn't exactly the same position) but with a different lens or a different lens configuration.

And it gets worse....

Did these parents go home and change?  He is wearing a different jacket and where did her sunglasses go?

The sunglasses can be put in a pocket, but I had noticed that some people changed their clothes. Unusual, at least.

These are the same people that almost seemed happy that their child had passed on.   WTF?

I wouldn't say that, as the reason for their apparent happiness is not that she died.

Please take note of what Dr Carver says in his interview.....

You can control a situation by a photographer,  and I have some very good photographers.

He was talking about the parents recognising the dead children. They didn't show the bodies, they used photos, so that situation depends on the quality of the photographers.

[08rubicon]

 ARMAP;
   Please excuse me for asking...You just said. ' they did not show the
bodies, just the pictures'...Are you saying the parents did not see
the bodies of their children before burial ? I am sorry if I am easily
confused .I thought I had read everything on this.      o8rubicon

[micjer]

If you don't mind me answering for him, this is correct.

This video talks about this.
8:48 mark




The mother talks about using sharpies and writing messages all over her daughters' coffin.


Seriously, who would not insist on seeing their child to have closure.  AND she is good with it!!!!!

[Amaterasu]

I guess no One watched the 3 hour piece I offered.  I do recommend watching - some very astute points.

[micjer]

I guess no One watched the 3 hour piece I offered.  I do recommend watching - some very astute points.

Oh sorry I did.   It was very well done.

This whole event has so many holes in it.  It seems the MSM 's goal was to muddy the waters so the truth could be hidden.

[ArMaP]

ARMAP;
   Please excuse me for asking...You just said. ' they did not show the
bodies, just the pictures'...Are you saying the parents did not see
the bodies of their children before burial ? I am sorry if I am easily
confused .I thought I had read everything on this.      o8rubicon

That's my understanding of it.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE REPORTER: Doctor, what shape are the bodies --

CARVER: We did not bring the bodies and the families into contact. We took pictures of them. Of their facial features. You have -- it's easier on the families when you do that. There is a time and a place for up close and personal in the grieving process. But to accomplish this we felt it would be best to do it this way and you can sort of -- you can control the situation depending on your photographer. I have very good photographers but -

Found here.

[08rubicon]

 Thank you for the answer. I can not attach to any post. I have not
found the 3 hr video. I did watch the a.cooper 11 min. video and was
devistated by the lack of grief shown..However, I showed the video to
my wife (married 54 years) and was suprised that she thought the
parents reaction was perfect. My thoughts on sandy hook. (1) no one
was killed..(2) people were killed in a 'black opps.' (3) kidnapping the
children, as many children are kidnapped or disapear every day.I would
want to be sure it was my child before i put him/her in the ground.
08rubicon 

 

[ArMaP]

I did watch the a.cooper 11 min. video and was devistated by the lack of grief shown..However, I showed the video to my wife (married 54 years) and was suprised that she thought the parents reaction was perfect.

Each person reacts in their own way, but besides that we should take into account that some people act in a way that they think other people expect them to act, so it's possible that their actions were also shaped by that.

I would want to be sure it was my child before i put him/her in the ground.

I suppose some people want to keep the memory of the living instead of seeing them dead, but I always thought that it was worse not to see them dead, as that may leave the impression that they are not really dead.

I have been called cruel more than once, but I think reality is cruel and people should accept it instead of disguising it of something else or pretend it does not exist.

[micjer]

If we assume you are right ArMaP, on the different angles and the use of telescopic lens that is distorting the background, there is still one that remains odd about this.

How is it that there are so many pictures (and vid) of the same thing?  It sure looks like a photo opp.  In the video you can see the couple of ladies in front of the stressed couple being told to move out of the way.  Then the famous photos seem to be taken.

It sure seems to be staged.

If I were a criminal investigator, I sure would be looking into this couple, as their actions do not seem normal.  Just saying.

[ArMaP]

How is it that there are so many pictures (and vid) of the same thing?  It sure looks like a photo opp.

Many pictures is not strange, after all that's the reason why the photographers were there, right?

It can be suspicious if these people appear more than others in similar conditions (near the fire-house).

If I were a criminal investigator, I sure would be looking into this couple, as their actions do not seem normal.  Just saying.

Do you think it would be worth the time? What makes these more suspicious than others?

[robomont]

If this thread runs much further im gonna hit zorgon up for a paycheck.

Just jokin z.consider it my gift to you.

[spacemaverick]

We could always go into a comparison of James Holmes at Aurora Theater shooting and Sandy Hook.  Along with that we can actually do a three way and include the shooting at the Sikh Temple.  There are similarities between all three.  This little fact bothers me.

[zorgon]

Have a gander at this   and tell me what you think...

[micjer]

More ineptness.  Sloppy work indeed.  Is this on purpose? 

I am sure someone will have a "swamp gas" reason for it. 


There is all of this misinformation on the net and poor reporting by the MSM at the get go.

But the thing that really tells me it was staged was the lock down at the school.

People have been shot in the school.  What is the normal reaction?   Get the paramedics in there and get them to the hospital.  Dead or not, at least try and save them!!!!!!

So what is happening here?  Ask Gene Rosen.

And for the families to not be able to see their children in the caskets.....come on give me a break.


For those unfamiliar with how it should have been reported the following will help.







Note in the second video, the reporter is at the hospital.  Not a local firehall.