Real Suppression of Free Energy?

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

To clarify on the cost of inverters, up to about 500 watts, there are some good ones on the market for what? 150 bucks or less?

I would prefer we begin with something like 500 watts, but i'm thinking inverters in the 10Kw range.
Enough to power the average house

I know what the industrial ones cost, it's a small fortune!
These we can build for about 1/6 of the cost
In fact, like i keep telling people, recycle the damn stuff, most of the (normally very expensive) parts i get from old/damaged equipment that my clients throw away. Who cares, they can afford a new one, they don't care what happens to the old stuff, so long as it gets removed.
Especially if it contains hazmats, they can't store it on the grounds

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Getting back on topic, if PRC started selling actual free energy machines, it would spell our doom.
However, what we do have are some highly efficient inverter designs, and we could sell those (again with special rates for members) and not get into trouble.

Now, if we built a flex-meg or some other circuit that is say, 99.9% efficient, then we would be quite safe from TPTB.

Having said that, one could easily market a device that, once taken home & fiddled with, would maybe become 500% efficient.....?

Food for thought, that one and the topic for a new thread, methinks

[Eighthman]

Google J Naudin and it will take you to his stuff.

The VSG experiment used a carbon rod/ thorium welding rod spark gap with a big coil magnet around it.

I wondered if he was using a 'charge cluster' effect - something which mainstream science ignored completely, even though a Russian scientist independently verified the effect. (K. Shoulders patent)

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

I will have a look, i'm sure i've seen it already, but i see so much these days.
I'm quite sure that a normal brain would have melted by now, but i'm actually enjoying it. Please forgive me if i miss the occasional post guys

I have posted plenty of thoughts on the properties of charge in the 'gold ring' thread & elsewhere.
My 'pet theory' is that charge is in fact, inter-dimensional.
It is therefore capable of phenomenon such as FTL & gravity effects, as posted in the TT Brown discussions (a must for all members interested in 'antigravity').
There is also plenty of info in my own forum, if you have something to add/post, & discuss in a clear scientific manner (more or less LOL) then maybe you can join us in the inventor's group 8man.

Quite frankly, we need as many brains working on this as possible.

This area is strictly for inventors, however, if you can ferret out ideas/info & pass it on to the group, you are also welcome.
Amy is a wizard in this, & that's why she is there also

There are 3 kinds of inventors, and then you have the 'communicators' like Amy (Amaterasu) & a few other interested parties.
So if anyone thinks they are 'inventor' material, they are welcome to PM me for an invite, you will find it informal, on a first name basis.
Some of that spills over to the public forums, as does the information.
No problem with that, either.
The point is that the forum is a nice quiet area where the boffins among us can get together & share theories/results etc. Most of the focus is on replicating or confirming certain 'taboo' technologies.

The 3 kinds of inventor & their tasks are outlined in the green thread, entitled 'The implications of free energy & a proposal'

I won't go into the implications at this stage, but the proposal is a tech approach to solving problems, free energy is the main problem, AG another but nonetheless receiving a lot of attention.
Basicaly it works towards (or along the lines of ) Amy's TAP system.
All devices/inventions get assessed & where possible, tested, by us.
The info, plans etc are all posted, & the plan is to release everything, open source, once we have enough proof, preferably in the form of a functioning machine, or undeniable proof of one.

Water, or HHO is such a system.
It has been proven to work, not only by the inventors like Stan Meyer et al but also by colleagues of mine, from the original Inventor's forum years ago.

Besids, most of it is out there already, many of you know that already.
What we need to do, is get that technology out on the streets where it belongs, not in some dusty archive or Hanger 18 or wherever they stash 'secret' technology these days...

P.S. The three types of inventors are Thinkers, Tinkerers, and Builders

[robomont]

i was thinkin 2kw.enough for air conditioning and or a microwave oven.

a marketing gimmick may be a stand alone unit that just powers a central air unit.
it would be mounted above the outside unit to provide shade and power.

im curious to here about the french thing.my ninth grader is taking french but her vocabulary is lacking in technical jargon.

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

2 Kw is good, it will run most household appliances.
As a rough guide inverters are like audio amps, about a dollar a watt.
So normally, a 2Kw inverter will set you back 1600-2000 bucks.
I'm just pulling numbers out the air here

I reckon we could put a 2kw inverter together for 500 bucks, maybe less.
At least, i would like to make them as cheap as possible, we could probably make them a lot cheaper than commercial ones.
If we started mass-producing them, the cost would drop by about 40% or more, say 300 bucks or less?
Just some rough estimates there.....

[zorgon]

Google J Naudin and it will take you to his stuff.

JLN labs has a forum that used to be really active.

These days there is maybe 5 posts in a week if that   

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

When you get into the higher power, it gets horribly expensive.
At least a buck per watt.
I have transistors here which i got for free, it turns out they cost over 400 euro's EACH, and you're going to need between 4 and 8 of them, depending on the type of inverter. The caps & diodes are almost as expensive.

BUT if we can get the ball rolling, build a few test models, these will be the expensive ones.
If we have a really good model, it gets cheaper the more we make.
I'm willing to invest in the first few models for free, since i have more than i need, after that i will have to start buying stuff, & at that stage it would be prudent to sell them & / or find an investor.

The advantage at this stage is i have plenty of stuff to build the first models, so they wont cost zilch, only my (very precious) time.

It's something i'm seriously thinking of starting in a professional way, with PRC as the main marketing promo.
PRC products on the market, with the logo on every machine.
Sounds good to me!

Yeah Naudin was THE no.1 site in it's day, can't understand it?

Maybe he's just tired, or they are getting to him?

[Eighthman]

Well,  Naudin deserves a lotta credit for building things, not just talk.

He also posted experiments/results from creating atomic hydrogen (i.e. Not H2).  I was later told that Langmuir discovered atomic hydrogen's unbelieveable effects most of a century ago but may have been told to avoid further research into it because it appeared to violate laws of physics.

Anyhow,  there are 3 groups I'm aware of that claim to have a solid working free energy system in development using hydrogen and nickel (or some other metallic catalyst) - Rossi, Brillouin and Defkalion. I wish they would hurry it along.......

OK, drifting a bit OT here......... I'm rather discouraged by current events but firmly believe that free energy would break the logjam of stagnation and loss of freedom in the world.

I'm hoping for a technological development that PERMANENTLY limits the Power of the State - and free energy might be it. 

[robomont]

i believe rossi is a scam.he has had five years.
show me a working machine powering homes.then i will believe.

[Eighthman]

There's an informal group of scientists I follow in a blogspot. Their conclusion?

The effect is real, Rossi isn't.  Other people wanna grab the research and run with it.  The atomic hydrogen weirdness has been known for 70 years or so. The problem is how to exploit it and make it reliable. He may have stumbled on it.

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Rossi & Dekaflion are the same thing.
Rossi unfortunately has been soundly debunked, check out a site called NewEnergyTimes, they've got the scoop on it.

The effect may still be real, but the evidence for it is a bit thin.....

but may have been told to avoid further research into it because it appeared to violate laws of physics.

Yep, they did that to Laithwaite & thousands of others....hell, even a fridge magnet defies the laws of physics

[robomont]

just throwed one away yesterday for obeying the laws of physics.

what seems to be their setback?if you know.

[Eighthman]

http://jlnlabs.online.fr/mahg/index.htm

Here's Naudin's work with atomic hydrogen.  A genuine anomaly

This sort of thing has happened before - I believe that the Papp motor was real even though the inventor seemed like a pathological liar. 

[robomont]

the magnetic wheel idea should work for free energy.only reason i bring it up is because of the title of the thread.
theres also the one that is someones avatar on here.
im just to lazy to build them.
i figured the mag wheel out a few years back.magnets arent cheap unless you grab them out of junk cars.