S4 SAUCER (UNDER CONSTRUCTION)

[Ellirium113]

3Ds Files you say? sweet. I could insert that into my Armed Assault game and have the army try and shoot it down in a simulation. 

[1Worldwatcher]

I thought I had seen the line drawing before..lol..seen so many renditions, just assumed it was all yours, though your design does vary slightly, it is the Classic UFO type.
I , too, would like too be able to ask Bob some questions. He is a very important person with in the information and the disclosure of UFO tech and the PTB having reverse engineered such technology. Great guy, no doubt, for being brave enough to give to us, the public to digest.

Z's "Hyper Drive UFO Onion Propulsion System" is more like the Bell design that has been discussed with in the conspiracy groups with the German WWII researchers, but seems as if it does portray the design somewhat Sgt. heres the Thread.

Hyper Drive-UFO Onion Drive System

One will have too go through provided links to research, there is never anyone to respond to questions or answer theories involved. Dead thread really, but interesting that you seemingly found a schematic for something similar too how it is actually suppose to work.

Inventors Groups forum is so quiet, you could hear a mouse fart, PWM doesn't respond, may be busy. LE is on too something with in his research and has to devote all time to that, Back, Robomont and a few others post nothing, so we are at a stand still with in the Group. Bummer really.
Electronic engineering is no t my cup of tea, willing to learn, have read a lot, but with out a Professor, I can't make heads nor tails of what is what with in certain discussions that are way above my Pay Grade..LOL

Either way, your UFO design seems too be fine tuned compared to the original you had went by for concept, who knows, maybe someone will chime in with who did what and when. Would be cool if it was Bob's rendering, some serious hands on experience there.

With Great Respect,
1Worldwatcher

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1ww
PWM is on a mission should be back on tomarrow

As for myself I am learning as you are.  Yes I did get a EE degree in 1990 and did some work in that field for about 6 years but it did not pay the bills. I took a job in a factory with good pay and still there. I was fine with that until I started talking to Adam Bull here he posted as 7redorbs. He got me to think out of the box about 1 1/2 year ago. In that time I have done a lot of research and a few experiments.

I am sorry if I had led you to believe that I am something that I am not. I have learned to keep my mouth shut when it comes to things that I can not 100% prove.

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[zorgon]

I use Autocad 2011. This was just a start. I plan on detailing the whole thing.

So ummm  when is the flight trials? 

[A51Watcher]

Great project Sarge!

As far as I know, you are working with the official dimensions drawn by Bob.

Others ones, such as the Testors model is slightly flatter than this one. You would THINK that they, if anyone would insist on getting the right dimensions.


Not only is the one you mentioned on his supposedly officially sanctioned web page flatter, so are ALL animation models included in any show about Bob, from the history channel to the discovery channel, etc.


So you bring up a very good point - will the real Bob Lazar dimensions for the craft please stand up.


 

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

I will continue to work on mine unless John or Bob tells me I'm wrong or I hear a knock on the door in the middle of the night! 

Rock 

[1Worldwatcher]

Back Wrote:

I am sorry if I had led you to believe that I am something that I am not. I have learned to keep my mouth shut when it comes to things that I can not 100% prove.

NP Back, I was just openly stating that, as a member for years now, this is the first time I have seen a real change with in the communications of the PRC or the Y! groups being segregated from researcher too average Joe.
I am not a scientist either my friend, but have openly discussed such topics since I have been a member, I think the 'Weeding' as it were is taking effect, and th real sciences are going to be behind the scene's, I am hoping this isn't the case, but I will have too wait and see. Got a strong feeling though if you aren't a scientist with PhD, or don't practice in a lab environment, you are going to be out of the know. IMHO

Sgt. Seen the New renditions of your design, they are way cool my friend. "Seems as if you got bit by the bug pretty good!!?" LOL
Can't wait until we start talking propulsion scenario's, or if you are even going down that road.
Will be waiting for the updated post's my friend, didn't see the new pictures here, so I am sure they are coming. Keep up the great work.

1WW

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"NP Back, I was just openly stating that, as a member for years now, this is the first time I have seen a real change with in the communications of the PRC or the Y! groups being segregated from researcher too average Joe.
I am not a scientist either my friend, but have openly discussed such topics since I have been a member, I think the 'Weeding' as it were is taking effect, and the real sciences are going to be behind the scene's, I am hoping this isn't the case, but I will have too wait and see. Got a strong feeling though if you aren't a scientist with PhD, or don't practice in a lab environment, you are going to be out of the know. IMHO"

I hope that you are incorrect.  I hope that our back yard tinkering will find as much truth or more than they know. More and more people are starting to understand that "they" arnt always telling the truth.

I am motivated to seek things out for myself. I wish I was that way 30 years ago So I continue my search with a few friends  some that I have found here. I do hope that this search will help change things in some small way.

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[1Worldwatcher]

Me too Back.

Sgt. have you gave any consideration to materials or propulsion system to your design yet? I am anxious to start doing some math too propagate weight /thrust loads of such a vehicle.
Maybe a run down list of what materials you seeing this design being made of would be a great start for open discussion. Though our ability to get some other worldly materials is a far cry with finance, we can still calculate variables for the application.

Scientists have devised a way of designing their own materials by molecularly reconstructing materials by stress and tensile strengths, haven't seen any new materials being offered as the ideal one, so if you had an assumption of what materials would be the best to acquire for building, at least we can apply the math too laws of physics and variables that lie with in.

Still waiting for those new renditions, they are worthy of posting Sgt. I am a subscribe of your YT acct and Photo bucket, so got a preview my friend! Looks great!

1WW

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

1WW, what my intentions were to duplicate Bob's S4 saucer including the propulsion system that John has shown many times on his interviews. Anything beyond that I haven't really thought about it.
And thanks for the subscription to my YT & Photobucket channels. Hey I'm also on FB!....

[1Worldwatcher]

1WW, what my intentions were to duplicate Bob's S4 saucer including the propulsion system that John has shown many times on his interviews. Anything beyond that I haven't really thought about it.

Well Sgt. it is a place I will start to see if there was anything mentioned as far as what the possibilities are of the material being used. If we can go by what your renderings indicate, then we can figure out area/weights and forces. but for the most part, it will require a bit of research, as long as we have dimensions and size, we can elaborate on that as a beginning point.
Thanks for the reply Sgt.
Maybe we can get 'Z' too post a few tid bits of the 1azar concept as too what the materials were, I know he has access too such details, but will research on my own until that happens, after all, 'Z' is kicking the tires and wanting to light the fires, he wants one of these bad boy's!! LOL As do I .

And thanks for the subscription to my YT & Photobucket channels.

NP Sgt. I would be a fool for not subscribing to your talents, especially with in the interests I have of the topic. You basically paint a very valid picture of what the minds eye has too interpret as what it is you see when you render. Great stuff, always want too be informed my friend.

[johnlear]

I've been reading a lot about the saucer called the sport model and the propulsion system that John & Bob described. Thought I'd give it a go and see if I could model a full size version. This is the first pass and definitely not finished. Tell me what ya think!

Peace
Rock

The correct measurements are 52' in diameter 16.5' high.
The seats are 120 apart all facing the arch.

All the best.

[johnlear]

The correct measurements are 52' in diameter 16.5' high.
The seats are 120 apart all facing the arch.

The 25' figure came from an estimate Bob made until he came across the Billy Meier photo which he says was identical to the one he was in.

All the best.

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

What arch are you talking about John? The diagram I was working from didn't show any seats. How many seats? Do you know exactly how many windows are on the upper level? 6 maybe?

BTW It's really good to hear from you.

Ps... any additional info you could provide would be a great help.

Rock....

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

Since John posted this morning, I went back and re-read the info on the Bob Lazar site and it sits closer to what John posted. Seeing how I'm not adding anything new to this much discussed topic, I've decided to terminate this work and move on to something else. Sorry....

Rock....