A Message from Bill Cosby - Pass it on

[rdunk]

I don't care who said it or who wrote it. I pretty much agree with the thought and intent of every "I am tired of" statement said!

With nearly 50% of the nation's population on welfare and food stamps, it is a "damnation of intent"  of the people in that situation, and a damnation of the government, not a damnation of the people who are working and making a living, for themselves, and for their families.

Except for the physically handicapped, anyone who is receiving support from the governments should have to get up, get out, and work at doing something productive, even if that means sweeping the streets, doing various work for cities and states, garbage pick-up, and etc.

Yes, some of that type of "work" would cause some people to get busy and find a real job, instead of just sending out resumes on the internet, and collecting their govt. check.

Right now this country in on the road to "hell in a hand-basket", with the politics and spending direction of our government. And yes, the muslims will take this country down completely, if we just sit by and let them, as we seem to be doing!

[robomont]

if it costed twenty dollars a day to go to work and you only make thirty .then its not worth going to work.thats why mostly low iq people have real jobs right now.if they sat down and looked at the true cost of living they would quit their jobs too.only the rich and a few upper management are truly making a living these days.why should i help a millionaire get richer while i wonder how to keep the bills paid.
a living wage is now twenty dollars an hour.wheres those twenty dollar an hour jobs.       all i hear is silence   .then the millionaire says i need more immigrants.
i already saw reality but sometimes not everybody sees it at the same time .

basically our country has wrote off anybody over 35.
most of us are crippled anyway from our jobs.twenty small strains on a back over a lifetime can equal a cripple and thats why we have so many people on disability.
if i cant get a job then fine.ill go on disabilty and this why were where we are now.

[petrus4]

I disagree, Armap; I have been working since I was 11 years old, and I agree with Bill Cosby 100%; don't take away from my calloused and sweaty hands to give to someone too lazy or sorry to try to do for themselves...

Being a slave doesn't make you morally superior to anyone, I'm sorry.  The entire reason why the slave views himself as being better than those who are not like him, is because a perception of moral superiority, in many cases, is literally all he has.

Bill might be tired; but I'm becoming equally tired of the insistence that there is a correlation between misery and virtue.  I'm tired of people continually trying to claim that they are better than me purely because they are older, and they've spent most of their lives doing work that they have hated.

Being older doesn't make you superior.  It just makes you more likely to die sooner than me; and your knowledge of that fact is the entire reason why older people need to try and make that claim in the first place.

You having suffered and potentially experienced more pain in your life, on its' own, does not make you inherently superior to me either.  It likely means that in fact, you envy me, which again, is why you need to create the illusion of superiority, in order to console yourself.  My father's life has fairly consistently been one of misery, and he always used to deride me for being, "self indulgent," when I knew full well that envy was his only motivation for doing so. 

I will even allow myself to feel some genuine outrage in my own turn, here.  How dare you attempt to claim moral superiority over me, (and I'm talking, here, to a couple of people on this forum, without needing to name names; they know who they are) when you do not take responsibility for your own situation?  I do not spent 16-18 hours a day working in a job I hate, because I have consciously made the decision that I will accept death in preference to doing so.  I do not consider a life spent in such a manner, to be a life worth living.  If you do, then you are entirely welcome to it, but let us dispense with this need on your part, to psychologically compensate for your choice, by claiming that it has any greater inherent moral worth than others.

At least have the basic integrity to view it for what it is; a choice.  You are not, in fact, compelled to be in that situation to the degree which so many claim; people voluntarily take on expenses such as mobile phones and cars (which contrary to puerile claims, they do not literally need to physically survive) and then claim that they have "no choice," but to submit to slavery in order to economically maintain these things.  Barring quarterly utilities, I am currently living on $250 AUD (roughly the same US) per week, and I am doing so very comfortably.  I am also debt free.  I have no car, no mobile phone, and none of Apple's handheld rubbish.

The truth of the matter also, is that I do not condone "independence," as a moral virtue.  I don't condone necessarily being carried by fascist institutions, but if there is one thing which Americans in particular need to learn, it is to place greater value on their fellow human beings.  Most of you do not understand the fact that the very people who indoctrinated you with the "independence," meme, are those who want to own you; and contrary to what they try and tell you, they are not "independent."  They get together in organisations such as the Bilderberg Group all the time, and collectively decide what they are going to do.  They collaborate; they don't want you to believe that that is a good idea, however, because they want to keep you powerless.

So do not sing hymns either to your advancing necrosis, or to the fact that your imminent descent into the grave will follow a life in which, due purely to your own gullibility, you have chosen to emulate an agricultural draught animal, and expect me to be impressed.

[zorgon]

if it costed twenty dollars a day to go to work and you only make thirty .then its not worth going to work.thats why mostly low iq people have real jobs right now.if they sat down and looked at the true cost of living they would quit their jobs too.only the rich and a few upper management are truly making a living these days.why should i help a millionaire get richer while i wonder how to keep the bills paid.

I find it surprising that people do not avail themselves of selling online via ebay etsy etc.

My sister, not to computer savy , had an income problem. She is looking after our mother in her home in a basement apartment. Her husband the single wage earner in the household has a decent union job in waste water treatment. Well he got ill... funds ran out and they were in trouble.

I suggested she sell stuff on Ebay... (my mother was a long time flea market seller in her day and they had stuff)  She hmmm'ed and haaa'ed  said she was crappy on the comp.  Finally her son said "Hey mom. I can set that up real easy.

So within a few month she found enough money to cover the bills with enough left over to take a 2 week vacation to Costa Rica for a family of 4 and pay for a nurse to watch mom.

How? She listed stuff they had and no longer needed, then went to yard sales, church sales and thrift stores picking up deals. In Toronto it gets cold, fur coats real or fake are in high demand.  She now focuses on those  picks them up for 50.00 or less, resells them for $250.00 or higher and routinely sells out

I have posted these solutions in the money section. I have actively been setting up my shop to do just that. I look at yard sales every weekend and find stuff selling for $1.00  Now things are picking up and I am finally getting a return. I have no choice... there are no jobs around here either. My wife has been looking for over a year even for part time... even got bumped out of a christmas temp job she had.

So back to scrounging scrap and buying at yard sales for me.

But ya know what? Its FUN and after a while and some initial hard work, it starts to pay off.  At the end of December we were down to the last penny literally... now its February and we are staying afloat with light at the end of the pier.

So stop being LAZY take 10 bucks and go to a yard sale, post it on Ebay or Etsy and get 50.00 back. Don't have 10 bucks, well shelve your pride and do the rounds on trash day. You would be amazed at what people toss away. A little clean and repair, in some cases no more than a dusting off  and you resell it at a yard sale.

You want tips, write me or follow my posts and check the shop. You would not believe what you can get for stuff. Just takes a little time... but then time is what you have a lot of when your broke and stuck at home.

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I will try not to rant here 

None of us want to be debt slaves. There are people that do need help.

But !!!!!!!!        The people that take advantage of the situation tick me off

There is a couple down the road from me that just built a 200k or more house both have jobs and 4 or 5 cars in the drive. All newer than the car I drive and I have been behind them at the market more than once. At least 2 carts full with steaks ect that I cant buy.

THEY PAY FOR IT WITH THAT CARD!!!!!!!!!!

My wife asked her how she did it and the woman tried to tell her how to scam the government.

I told my wife it is not going to happen.we are not going to do that.

I am so sorry that some dont see it that way.

Sorry for the Mini rant.
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[zorgon]

My wife asked her how she did it and the woman tried to tell her how to scam the government.

Next time listen to the story... then turn her in

Gold for that mini rant. At least someone is reading the message

[zorgon]

Well there is some sanity and justice...  remember that girl who was getting those food stamps after winning the lottery? Seems the lawyers are going to get most of that

And the news caster seems almost.... GLEEFUL reporting this

Woman Arrest For Collecting Food Stamps After Winning Lottery

[ArMaP]

and Islam? Those that follow radical paths sow dissent and chaos for all the rest...

And ignorant people like Bill Cosby (or whoever wrote that, if it wasn't written that way on purpose) say the things other people say without even trying to see if it's true or not...

[ArMaP]

Being a slave doesn't make you morally superior to anyone, I'm sorry.  The entire reason why the slave views himself as being better than those who are not like him, is because a perception of moral superiority, in many cases, is literally all he has.

Bill might be tired; but I'm becoming equally tired of the insistence that there is a correlation between misery and virtue.  I'm tired of people continually trying to claim that they are better than me purely because they are older, and they've spent most of their lives doing work that they have hated.

Being older doesn't make you superior.  It just makes you more likely to die sooner than me; and your knowledge of that fact is the entire reason why older people need to try and make that claim in the first place.

Just a quick answer to say that I fully agree with the above (and the rest of your post, but it would make this too long).

[The Seeker]

Petrus, I do not know where you have your head at, and really don't care; how you draw the conclusion that I am stating that I am morally superior or virtuos is beyond me;

plainly put, I work; 99.9% of the time at jobs that I chose and happen to enjoy, have had several businesses of my own that did allright and served me well at the time without taking advantage of anyone, taking from anyone, or using anyone for my gain at their loss;

I started to ignore your post, but no, there is a difference between the likes of you and myself; I have never been on welfare, disability, received food stamps or any type of aid from anyone; Have also bought food, clothing, and helped financially when I could those that I could...


so what have you accomplished in life other than posting empty words proclaiming your superiority?

[burntheships]

Well there is some sanity and justice...  remember that girl who was getting those food stamps after winning the lottery? Seems the lawyers are going to get most of that

Lawyers....well you know what they say....

"I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is called a disgrace, two men are called a law firm, and three or more become a Congress"

-- John Adams, in the play "1776"



I happen to agree with Bill Cosby, or whoever wrote this.

Hard work is the cure for much of what ails mankind.

If everyone had to work their asses off, they would hardly have time
to do much else aside from eat and sleep.

But eh, we live in the days of free cell phones, free contraceptives.

[burntheships]

  Most of you do not understand the fact that the very people who indoctrinated you with the "independence," meme, are those who want to own you; and contrary to what they try and tell you, they are not "independent."  They get together in organisations such as the Bilderberg Group all the time, and collectively decide what they are going to do. 

Let me get this straight, you really think that people who work hard to
make a way in life, and provide for their own are under the control
of the Bilderbergs?

And where do the Socialists fit in? 

[petrus4]

Petrus, I do not know where you have your head at, and really don't care; how you draw the conclusion that I am stating that I am morally superior or virtuos is beyond me;

It wasn't you so much, seeker, as it was Cosby himself.  The answer was not directed at any one speaker specifically; I admittedly was not feeling particularly rational when I wrote it.  I am going to write a clarification of this issue in its' own thread, however.

[robomont]

i support your stance petrus.
i just hope were right.
the old ways are changing.
i hope were changing for good.

[zorgon]

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