Pope Benedict resigned to avoid arrest, seizure of church wealth by Easter

[sky otter]

more on how the tight fist of the vatican is opening..yep the end is near

very long article with lots of details



By Jason Horowitz, Feb 16, 2013 11:38 PM EST

The Washington Post Published: February 16
Vatican City — Guests at the going-away party for Carlo Maria Viganò couldn't understand why the archbishop looked so forlorn. Pope Benedict XVI had appointed Viganò ambassador to the United States, a plum post where he would settle into a stately mansion on Massachusetts Avenue, across the street from the vice president's residence.

"He went through the ordeal making it very clear he was unhappy with it," said one former ambassador to the Vatican, who attended the Vatican Gardens ceremony in the late summer of 2011. "And we just couldn't figure out, us outsiders and non-Italians, what was going on."

There was no such confusion within Vatican walls. Benedict had installed Viganò to enact a series of reforms within the Vatican. But some of Rome's highest-ranking cardinals undercut the efforts and hastened Viganò's exile to the United States.

Viganò's plight and other unflattering machinations would soon become public in an unprecedented leak of the pontiff's personal correspondence. Much of the media — and the Vatican — focused on the source of the shocking security breach. Largely lost were the revelations contained in the letters themselves — tales of rivalry and betrayal, and allegations of corruption and systemic dysfunction that infused the inner workings of the Holy See and the eight-year papacy of Benedict XVI. Last week, he announced that he will become the first pope in nearly 600 years to resign.

The next pope may bring with him an invigorating connection to the Southern Hemisphere, a media magnetism or better leadership skills than the shy and cerebral Benedict. But whoever he may be, the 266th pope will inherit a gerontocracy obsessed with turf and Italian politics, uninterested in basic management practices and hostile to reforms.

VatiLeaks, as the scandal came to be known, dragged the fusty institution into the wild WikiLeaks era. It exposed the church bureaucracy's entrenched opposition to Benedict's fledgling effort to carve out a legacy as a reformer against the backdrop of a global child sex abuse scandal and the continued dwindling of his flock.

It showed how Benedict, a weak manager who may most be remembered for the way in which he left office, was no match for a culture that rejected even a modicum of transparency and preferred a damage-control campaign that diverted attention from the institution's fundamental problems. Interviews in Rome with dozens of church officials, Vatican insiders and foreign government officials close to the church, many of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of retribution, mapped out that hermetic universe.

"We can reveal the face of the church and how this face is, at times, disfigured," Benedict said in his final homily on Ash Wednesday. "I am thinking in particular of the sins against the unity of the church, of the divisions in the body of the church." He called for his ministry to overcome "individualism" and "rivalry," saying they were only for those "who have distanced themselves from the faith."

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/pope-benedict-xvis-leaked-documents-show-fractured-vatican-full-of-rivalries/2013/02/16/23ce0280-76c2-11e2-8f84-3e4b513b1a13_story.html

[burntheships]

Holy Crap!!!!  Literally... seems we missed THIS a couple years back and on main stream news

I posted on it, over yonder. It is a very long trail, and was
amazed to find it has tentacles to the P2.

I need to do a long thread on that...its very intriquing.

[sky otter]

a little pope humor here






German calendar might have freakishly predicted the pope's resignation

5 days ago Talk about incredible timing. On February 10, a German daily calendar was accompanied by a comic illustration that reportedly predicted Pope Benedict XVI's resignation down to the day. In the cartoon, the pope holds up a winning lottery ticket and cries "Holy straw sack! Tomorrow I quit!" (His Holiness probably didn't resign because he won the lottery — though it makes more sense than some of those other conspiracy theories.)

The comic's illustrator Katharina Greve, who drew the comic in 2011 as a tribute to the then-recently departed German cartoonist Loriot, remarked that the coincidence was "very funny."


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[astr0144]

Hi Amy,

Sorry I missed your and other  replies to my reptilian comments..

Alex Jones refers to people making comments about him and Paul Watson... so I did a quick search and to my surprise this is what I found...  seems that we were not the only ones who were a bit shocked /surprised by it...It is no doubt all rather weird !

IF Reptilians are here... then who knows what to make of it ! 



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OMG.  That's just CREEPY!  I see one very dark eye, and one very light, almost olive green eye - and the mouth...twisted and inhuman looking.  Sent shivers down Me spine.  Literally!

And yup. I was thinking the same thing.  Was watching the Jesse Ventura piece about reptilians - They found a LOT of info pointing to reptilians...but then dismissed the whole because David Icke makes money on giving lectures & books and stuff.

To ME, it was clearly writing off the whole thing.  I even got the sense that Icke & Ventura might have been playing by a script.

[Amaterasu]

Heh.  Yeah, We were not the only Ones to catch that.

[petrus4]

What I say in response to Catholicism now, is what I have said before.

The Vatican, and Christianity itself in broader terms, is an energetically and archetypically Piscean institution...and Pisces is now over.

I believe in the prophecy of Malachy.  I believe that the next Pope will be the last, Petrus Romanus; and that afterwards, the Vatican will cease to exist.  Christianity will continue to exist, but at less than 5% of its' former numbers.  This is a good thing, and it needs to happen.  The true elect have never been a large number.

[zorgon]

The true elect have never been a large number.

[rdunk]

What I say in response to Catholicism now, is what I have said before.

The Vatican, and Christianity itself in broader terms, is an energetically and archetypically Piscean institution...and Pisces is now over.

I believe in the prophecy of Malachy.  I believe that the next Pope will be the last, Petrus Romanus; and that afterwards, the Vatican will cease to exist.  Christianity will continue to exist, but at less than 5% of its' former numbers.  This is a good thing, and it needs to happen.  The true elect have never been a large number.

IMO, the "Vatican and the Pope" have NOTHING/NO INFLUENCE on anything but the Catholic segment of the Church.

It is interesting to often hear only "unbelievers" saying the the Church of Jesus Christ is going away, because of this and that in our society. Well........that is the very truth, because it is going away! And when it does "go away", all hell is going to break out on this planet, as the "end of days" approaches. And yes of course, that is straight out of that so-called-by-some fictional book - - The Bible.

Oh happy day!!  

[Somamech]

a little pope humor here






German calendar might have freakishly predicted the pope's resignation

5 days ago Talk about incredible timing. On February 10, a German daily calendar was accompanied by a comic illustration that reportedly predicted Pope Benedict XVI's resignation down to the day. In the cartoon, the pope holds up a winning lottery ticket and cries "Holy straw sack! Tomorrow I quit!" (His Holiness probably didn't resign because he won the lottery — though it makes more sense than some of those other conspiracy theories.)

The comic's illustrator Katharina Greve, who drew the comic in 2011 as a tribute to the then-recently departed German cartoonist Loriot, remarked that the coincidence was "very funny."


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That date resonates with me 

[Somamech]

IMO, the "Vatican and the Pope" have NOTHING/NO INFLUENCE on anything but the Catholic segment of the Church.

It is interesting to often hear only "unbelievers" saying the the Church of Jesus Christ is going away, because of this and that in our society. Well........that is the very truth, because it is going away! And when it does "go away", all hell is going to break out on this planet, as the "end of days" approaches. And yes of course, that is straight out of that so-called-by-some fictional book - - The Bible.

Oh happy day!!

I listened to quite an interesting program on the radio two nights ago with an author who has just finished and published a book about China.  It was quite funny to hear a Joke between the pair (interviewer and the interviewee) comparing the the Vatican with The CCP in regards to voting and population and how no-one gets a choice in that matter

That's not meant as a dig either!   

[rdunk]

"CCP"? 

Concealed Carry Permit? 

[Somamech]

"CCP"? 

Concealed Carry Permit? 

That's probably more true than we care to entertain hey LOL

[undo11]

What I say in response to Catholicism now, is what I have said before.

The Vatican, and Christianity itself in broader terms, is an energetically and archetypically Piscean institution...and Pisces is now over.

I believe in the prophecy of Malachy.  I believe that the next Pope will be the last, Petrus Romanus; and that afterwards, the Vatican will cease to exist.  Christianity will continue to exist, but at less than 5% of its' former numbers.  This is a good thing, and it needs to happen.  The true elect have never been a large number.

not to toot my own theoretical horn, but it seems to me that, if enki is jesus, and enki is depicted as aquarius (with water flowing from a jug and/or his shoulders), that what is happening is not the end of christianity per sey, but the end of confusion on the subject.  that is if my theory is correct about the identity of enki.

[Somamech]

Being an aqua dragon....

sorry couldn't help myself undo 

[undo11]

Being an aqua dragon....

sorry couldn't help myself undo 

reminds me of the verses in the end of the book of revelation.   apocalypse means the revealing, the end of mystery.  in other words, no more need for mystery religions because everyone will have equal access to the data.   the text is also saying the catholic church is a mystery religion, meaning that they are hiding information, and that the information will be revealed to everyone .

this suggests that whatever it is we are supposed to have access to,  and is currently being veiled from our eyes now, will no longer be veiled.   and all will have real equal opportunity, rather than the current  duality where races and nations and genders and religions are played off against each so the leaders of the mystery groups, can maintain their stranglehold on the planet and the sentient occupants of it.  this revealing, i think, will solve every problem the planet has.