Pope Benedict resigned to avoid arrest, seizure of church wealth by Easter

[Amaterasu]

Frankly, I see more and more information on a plethora of subjects coming to light, being admitted to, and I have thought more than once...  These days ARE the apocalypse.

[undo11]

Frankly, I see more and more information on a plethora of subjects coming to light, being admitted to, and I have thought more than once...  These days ARE the apocalypse.

quite likely, but i think there's even more and i think you know there is too.  you can feel it, can't ya?  all that will be revealed to everyone. 

[zorgon]

  These days ARE the apocalypse.

[zorgon]

Hmmm maybe it is just slowly creeping in on us. Remember the McArthy years?  One day we woke up and there was a Commie in every closet...

ONE MAN did this...

"Joseph Raymond "Joe" McCarthy (November 14, 1908 – May 2, 1957) was an American politician who served as a Republican U.S. Senator from the state of Wisconsin from 1947 until his death in 1957. Beginning in 1950, McCarthy became the most visible public face of a period in which Cold War tensions fueled fears of widespread Communist subversion. He was noted for making claims that there were large numbers of Communists and Soviet spies and sympathizers inside the United States federal government and elsewhere. Ultimately, his tactics and inability to substantiate his claims led him to be censured by the United States Senate.

The term McCarthyism, coined in 1950 in reference to McCarthy's practices, was soon applied to similar anti-communist activities. Today the term is used more generally in reference to demagogic, reckless, and unsubstantiated accusations, as well as public attacks on the character or patriotism of political opponents."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McCarthy

[Amaterasu]

quite likely, but i think there's even more and i think you know there is too.  you can feel it, can't ya?  all that will be revealed to everyone.

Oh, absolutely!  I'm just saying We're already in the process of apocalypse.

[undo11]

jesus said, my people hear my voice.

i don't think he meant we would have voices talking in our heads. lol

it also says, we shall know each other, as we have been known. 
that suggests there is no veil at that point.

so if heaven is all around us but invisible to us because of the veil, that will no longer be the case.

[zorgon]

jesus said, my people hear my voice.
i don't think he meant we would have voices talking in our heads. lol

[undo11]

translation ?

[burntheships]

IMO, the "Vatican and the Pope" have NOTHING/NO INFLUENCE on anything but the Catholic segment of the Church.

Rdunk,

Do you mean really no influence. In the world?
What about The Holy See, and all of its medling into
politics, and world affairs?

I am just asking. 

[burntheships]

Well, what do you know, what to make of this.
I have been expecting this for a while, now it finally
comes to pass.

This may need its own thread, but putting it here for continuity.

A Seat for the Papacy at Mt Zion In Jerusalem

An historic agreement has been drafted between Israel and the Vatican. The Israeli authorities have granted the Pope an official seat in the room where the Last Supper is believed to have taken place, on Mount Zion in Jerusalem, and where David and Solomon, Jewish kings of Judea, are considered by some researchers, to also be buried.

It is the culmination of a long campaign by the Catholic Church to regain religious stewardship over the place where Jesus is supposed to have broken bread and drunk wine with his disciples on the eve of his crucifixion.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/12814

I am most curious as to what this "seat" is going to be?

Aside from granting access to The Upper Room by The Vatican, is this seat an allegorical
( as in authority)  or to be a real seat,
or even a  thone of some sort, or both?



'Israel, Vatican Near Historic Relationship Upgrade'

The most contentious was the issue of sovereignty over the Last Supper Room, with the Catholic Church demanding ownership, and Israel not willing to relinquish it. The two sides have essentially agreed to disagree on the matter, but not let it stand in the way of the overall accord.....

The agreement also works out the issue of expropriating Church property for infrastructure purposes, with a list of five sites – including the Mount of Beatitudes and Capernaum near Lake Kinneret (the Sea of Galilee) and the Church of the Annunciation in Nazareth – where land expropriation would not be allowed except for public safety in situations of emergency, and then only after coordination with the Church.

Israel and Vatican on the Verge of Historic Agreement

Jordan condemns alleged deal between Israel and Vatican over Jerusalem

Vatican, Israel Reach Historic Deal on Last Supper site

Indeed, we live in the most interesting of times.

[Amaterasu]

Wow, BTS...  That does have import.  One has to be amused at the TIMING!  Lessee...grant this honor just as a pope is leaving in extreme disgrace.  Hmmmmmm.

[burntheships]

One has to be amused at the TIMING!

Yes, the timing! And to think of the implictions of this,
it is staggering. This has been my theory for some time,
that in the end Israel and The Vatican would hold hands.

This involves 6 ancient sites so far, I am sure many more will come.

This is a true power partnership....yes it will impact religion
in a big way, but the power implications are seemingly endless.

[undo11]

bts

i think the upper room reference is a metaphor for the kings chamber in the pyramid of khufu.

i havent connected all the loose ends on that yet, however.  for example, if the ark of the covenant was the contents of the kings sarcophagus in the kings chamber, how does that correlate to dinner with enki?

i think it's a metaphor, not for dinner with enki, but rather the dinner adapa attended in the palace of anu, in  which enki told him, beforehand, not to drink or eat what was offered him by the gods.  i see the last supper as a reference to that because it was during the original event, that the adapa lost his opportunity for eternal life, and in the last supper event, the adapa regains the opportunity for eternal life.

now if we consider enki was the one present during the creation of  man, and was also told to make a modification to the dna of the adam (the adapa) during which the way of the tree of life was cut off, the dinner with the gods is the same thing, couched in different terminololgy.

enki is the one responsible for the nerf to our dna because the decision was made by the council to withhold eternal life from the adam, and so the geneticist (enki) was told to do the deed.  this is characterized in the sumerian version, with enki telling the adapa not to eat or drink the food of the gods at the dinner.  in genesis it is characterized, not only by the decision to block off the tree of life, but also the adam being told not to eat of the tree of knowledge, since the decision to block the tree of life was as a result of the tree of knowledge (procreation) being added to the adam dna.

so the last supper is enki showing how this nerf to our dna would be fixed.  the text refers to the repaired body as a body without corruption.  since corruption=sin, and sin=procreation, the new and upgraded version, doesn't reproduce via procreation (therefore no ovulation and no blood rituals (ancient kings having to drink chemicals in menstrual blood no longer necessary), thus restoring our original, eternal adam bodies.  this also seems to suggest that the water of life is from the tree of life, not procreation and will not be blood, but rather complete and permanent repair of our actual dna.  the tree of life was total and permanent regeneration, no destruct code, no more shedding of blood.

enlil is associated with his son, sin, who basically condemned the adapa (the adam)  to death (blocking of the tree of life) after disagreeing with the adapa being able to procreate.  i still can't figure out why enki insisted on giving the procreation ability. why was it a necessary addition, unless the story is even more tangled up than i had originally noticed.

anyway, let's go back to the upper room in the king's chamber.  how does this translate to all that?  well if there was a gate in that room, a gate to the palace of anu, perhaps on another planet or even in another dimension???, the upper room would be the upper room in a very big way. 

man the metaphors are all over the place in the last supper.

so in effect, the whole thing with the pope is a smoke screen

[burntheships]

Undo,

Wow, everything you have stated makes perfect sense!

If I remember correct, King David was buried in the
City of David, which is Zion (Sion), south of The Temple Mount.

To my knowledge, they have never uncovered the actual site.

Instead, Where they have King Davids tomb now is 
in the area of The Cenacle room, at Mt Zion.

This is the area that the Pope will have access to,
and will have a "seat". I assume he will also have a throne
as he does at The Vatican. By the way, I dont think this is
exclusive to Benedict, this is a new accord, and will
serve to all future Popes, and give The Catholic Church
say in the actual real estate somehow.

I just can not fathom a Catholic Throne inside the Cenacle
area....this must have some Jewish people very upset.

A few pages back, I remember saying that I had views that
were different than most people, well this is exactly what
I had in mind. This is only the beginning of the end.

[undo11]

it was constantine's mother that decided the location of the sacred spots of jesus in jerusalem and israel.  evidence seems to indicate, today, that most of the places she selected, were incorrect. lol   

so all of this huff puffery will be for no reason whatsoever but to make us think these are real sacred places being graced by the popes to the chagrin of the jewish people.  doh.