Was the Russian meteor expected and the info NOT released?

[ShakespeareGuy]

Hi Everyone,

Wanted to hear from members regarding the Russian meteor  prior to the well publicized "flyby". I'm guessing that the powers that be knew that a second smaller asteroid would enter the Earth's atmosphere and chose NOT to release the information for fear of starting a panic. 

[robomont]

i would say that sounds believable.

[ArMaP]

It's possible but I think it's less likely than they didn't see it coming, spotting such relatively small objects moving at such a high speed is very unlikely, even when they are looking for them.

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

I smell a rat, too.

If NASA says 'we are currently tracking x thousand near earth objects' and many of those appear to be quite small, how the heck did they still miss this one?

Ok i don't know what the resolution of their radar is, i'm betting the military must have tracked it, since it's no bigger than a modern ICBM, their radar is especially made to track small fast moving objects, so if THEY missed it, i can't blame NASA for missing it either.

I return a verdict of gross negligence on both parties, m'lud

[ArMaP]

Ok i don't know what the resolution of their radar is, i'm betting the military must have tracked it, since it's no bigger than a modern ICBM, their radar is especially made to track small fast moving objects, so if THEY missed it, i can't blame NASA for missing it either.

It may have been the same size of an ICBM, but the speed is supposed to have been twice that of an ICBM.

Also, it came from outer space, I don't think they are expecting ICBMs from there.

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Well i can agree with that

It's the military's job to look sideways.
It's NASA's job to look up

[thorfourwinds]

Hi Everyone,

Wanted to hear from members regarding the Russian meteor  prior to the well publicized "flyby". I'm guessing that the powers that be knew that a second smaller asteroid would enter the Earth's atmosphere and chose NOT to release the information for fear of starting a panic.

FYI
More conversation here.

[zorgon]

It's possible but I think it's less likely than they didn't see it coming, spotting such relatively small objects moving at such a high speed is very unlikely, even when they are looking for them.

Well if they didn't know it was coming, then why were they able to scrabble to shoot it down as early reports told us? And why were so many people ready with cameras?

Small? This was one third the size of DA14... NORAD tracks every piece of space debris over 1" in size.

With all those thousand of high tech satellites out there that can spot a license plate on Earth your telling me we cannot see a rock half the size of a football field?

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Hi ShakespeareGuy, and welcome to the forum.
Have your first gold for posting something cool

But the main thread is here:
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=3585.0

Enjoy!
PWM

[ArMaP]

Well if they didn't know it was coming, then why were they able to scrabble to shoot it down as early reports told us?

And you believe everything you're told? It didn't look like it was shot down.

And why were so many people ready with cameras?

Why weren't more?

Small? This was one third the size of DA14... NORAD tracks every piece of space debris over 1" in size.

Debris from what? Satellites? They know their orbits around the Earth, this one came from somewhere out there, as the song goes.

With all those thousand of high tech satellites out there that can spot a license plate on Earth your telling me we cannot see a rock half the size of a football field?

Half the size of a football field? It was the size of a bus.

And there's a big difference between a camera looking down at something stationary or moving slowly and detecting a bus-sized object coming at some 15 km/s from space.

PS: and I am still waiting evidence that there are satellites that are able to read a license plate.

[zorgon]

PS: and I am still waiting evidence that there are satellites that are able to read a license plate.

This is the old Ikonos satellite... in a public available resolution albeit you need to pay to get this level. 

http://thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Shangri-La/tsangpo_3500.jpg

Wait for it to load  takes a few scans

[ArMaP]

I know that photo, I have posted it before, and I don't see any license plate on that photo.   

Seriously, to read a license plate, a resolution of something like 1 or 2 cm per pixel is needed (a pixel needs to be smaller than the smallest element we want to see, preferably half it's size).

[zorgon]

And you believe everything you're told? It didn't look like it was shot down.

Do you disbelieve everything you hear and see?  Did you look CLOSELY?





Need some screen shots of that

[zorgon]

Russian Politician Denies Meteorite, Claims US Weapons Tests


Russian nationalist lawmaker Vladimir Zhirinovsky

MOSCOW, February 15 (RIA Novosti) – Russian nationalist lawmaker Vladimir Zhirinovsky, long known for his flamboyance and outrageous remarks, said Friday that meteorite fragments had not rained down on Russia in the morning, but that the light flashes and tremors in several of the country's regions resulted from US weapons tests.

"Those aren't meteors falling, it's the Americans testing new weapons," Zhirinovsky, leader of the Liberal Democratic Party, told journalists several hours after the Emergencies Ministry began issuing statements on the incident, which has injured hundreds and damaged scores of buildings.

He also said US Secretary of State John Kerry had wanted to warn Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov about the "provocation" on Monday, but couldn't reach him – a reference to US State Department comments earlier this week that Kerry had spent several days trying to speak to Lavrov by phone to discuss North Korea and Syria.

Outer space has its own laws, Zhirinovsky went on.

"Nothing will ever fall out there," he said. "If [something] falls, it's people doing that. People are the instigators of wars, the provocateurs."

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20130215/179489080/Russian-Politician-Denies-Meteorite-Claims-US-Weapons-Tests.html

Gotta love it 

[ArMaP]

Did you look CLOSELY?

I did, in the original video it looks just like reflections in the windshield.