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Started by zorgon, February 27, 2013, 09:24:39 PM

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zorgon

INSANITY Rules Supreme



QuoteWhat is wrong with this picture?
The picture is of the five nuclear carriers... Just like Battleship Row, Pearl Harbor, December 7, 1941.

This picture was taken the other day in Norfolk. The Obama Administration ordered 5 nuclear carriers into harbor for "routine" (?) inspections. Heads of the Navy were flabbergasted by the directive.
NORFOLK, VA. (February 8, 2013). The first time since WWII that five U.S. aircraft carriers were docked together.
USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69), USS George H.W. Bush (CVN 77), USS Enterprise (CVN 65), USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75), and USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) are all in port at Naval Station Norfolk, Va., the world's largest naval station.

Sources stated that this breached a long standing military protocol in the Navy meant to avoid massive enemy strike on major US forces. (U.S. Navy photo by Chief Mass Communication Specialist Ryan J. Courtade/Released)

Watch out America... Idiots and Traitors are in charge!

So okay that was the news on Facebook this morning ... so naturally I had to see what was up with this. It sure looks like a STUPID IDEA...

burntheships

This would be shocking, then I see that Obama has
ordered it. It seems that there is no end to the
idiocy in that Administration.

A chilling thought, this is not idiocy, its planned.
"This is the Documentary Channel"
- Zorgon

zorgon

Okay so doing an IMAGE SEARCH I find that this photo is all over the web news in CHINA RUSSIA KOREA  etc....

Wow who was the BOZO who thought THIS was a good idea? 5 of those carriers are nuclear powered.

So here is the original story... I cannot find a direct order from Obama yet but the picture is real..

Home for Christmas: 9 Flattops at Norfolk

QuoteHome for Christmas: 9 Flattops at Norfolk naval base, December 20, 2012.

With the returns from deployment of the carrier DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER on Dec. 19, and the amphibious ships IWO JIMA and NEW YORK on Dec. 20, the piers at Norfolk's naval base are about as full up as they'll ever be.

Five aircraft carriers, four big-deck amphibious assault ships, a full cast of "small boy" surface warships, along with nuclear submarines and support ships, are crowding the base, giving a comfortably snug feeling to the waterfront. Similar scenes — although not with the gathering of flattops seen here — are taking place at other fleet concentration areas like San Diego and Pearl Harbor.

The Navy makes a point of trying to gives its shipboard crews a chance to spend Christmas with their families, and for a few days  the percentage of ships underway drops to the lowest point it will be all year. But many of these ships will be gone in two weeks as the pace of operations picks up again.

In a decade or so, scenes such as this at Norfolk could become quite rare, as the fleet is in the midst of a gradual shift from the Atlantic to Pacific. Within a few years, about sixty percent of the U.S. Navy's ships will be homeported at a Pacific base – virtually a mirror image of the Cold War emphasis on the Atlantic.

Aerial photos courtesy the U.S. Navy, by Chief Mass Communication Specialist Ryan J. Courtade, Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Ernest R. Scott, and Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Kevin J. Steinberg.

So not only is this real, the website lists all the details like ship names etc...


The DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER makes a hard left turn on Dec. 19 to pull into her pier abreast the GEORGE H. W. BUSH.


Tugs help center up IKE as she maneuvers slowly to the pier. The aircraft of Carrier Air Wing Seven had already flown off to their shore bases.


EISENHOWER, at the far end in this photo, eases into her berth on Dec. 19. In the foreground is HARRY S. TRUMAN (CVN 75), with ABRAHAM LINCOLN (CVN 72), BATAAN (LHD 5), ENTERPRISE (CVN 65) and GEORGE H. W. BUSH (CVN 77).

Defense News


zorgon

#3

EISENHOWER, at far right, being pushed by tugs the last few yards into her berth. Left to right are WASP (LHD 1), HARRY S. TRUMAN (CVN 75), ABRAHAM LINCOLN (CVN 72), BATAAN (LHD 5), ENTERPRISE (CVN 65), GEORGE H. W. BUSH (CVN 77) and EISENHOWER. Newport News and the James River are across Hampton Roads behind EISENHOWER.


The scene on Dec. 20 after the IWO JIMA's arrival brought the flattop total to nine ships.

QuoteFrom bottom to top, front to back, or left to right:

Aircraft carrier DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER (CVN 69)

Aircraft carrier GEORGE H. W. BUSH (CVN 77)

Aircraft carrier ENTERPRISE (CVN 65)

Amphibious assault ship BATAAN (LHD 5)

Aircraft carrier ABRAHAM LINCOLN (CVN 72)

Aircraft carrier HARRY S TRUMAN (CVN 75)

Amphibious assault ship WASP (LHD 1)

Amphibious assault ship KEARSARGE (LHD 3)

Amphibious landing platform dock NEW YORK (LPD 21)

A T-AKE dry cargo ammunition ship

Amphibious assault ship IWO JIMA (LHD 7)

and various cruisers, destroyers, frigates and submarines of the U.S. Atlantic Fleet.

Also across Hampton Roads but not in these photos are two other carriers at Newport News Shipbuilding:  THEODORE ROOSEVELT (CVN 71), now finishing up a three-and-a-half-year refueling overhaul, and the new GERALD R. FORD (CVN 78), first ship of a new class of carriers, that will launch in mid-2013.

DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER's deployment to the Persian Gulf region was extended recently when her replacement, the Pacific carrier NIMITZ, needed to undergo emergency repairs. IKE is home for about two months to have her flight deck resurfaced, then will return to Central Command's Fifth Fleet.

ENTERPRISE returned from her final deployment on Nov. 4, and began her deactivation process on Dec. 1. She will eventually move to Newport News for further dismantling.

Sheds cover the ABRAHAM LINCOLN's flight deck as she prepares to cross to Newport News early next year to begin a three-and-a-half-year refueling overhaul, the most comprehensive refit a carrier will undergo in its 50-year service life.

HARRY S. TRUMAN has completed most of her training and is expected to deploy to the Fifth Fleet region later this winter. GEORGE H. W. BUSH completed a major overhaul in early December and is in the early stages of deployment work ups.

All four of the Atlantic Fleet's big-deck amphibs are in the pictures — an event perhaps even rarer than a gathering of five carriers.

The WASP is in port after supporting Hurricane Sandy relief operations off New York and New Jersey in early November. KEARSARGE is seen in the act of berthing, with several tugs around her, returning from rudder repairs at BAE Systems' shipyard in Norfolk. BATAAN will begin her workups for a deployment in 2013, and the IWO JIMA, along with the NEW YORK, returned to Norfolk hours before these pics were taken, back from a nearly nine-month deployment to the Fifth Fleet and Mediterranean theaters.


The ENTERPRISE, in the center with her "65" hull number and big "E" painted on her island, was the U.S. Navy's oldest ship in active commission when she was deactivated on Dec. 1.


While not unheard of, it's always an event when so many carriers are in port at the same time. Parking near the ships gets to be at a premium.


The carrier lineup is reminiscent of the famous "murderer's row" shots of World War II carriers at their anchorage in Ulithi Atoll.


Beyond the naval base are Norfolk's container piers. The Elizabeth River stretches in the distance to the left towards downtown Norfolk.


Home is where the heart is. Cmdr. Matt Barker's family embraces him as he steps out of his F/A-18C Hornet strike fighter Dec. 18 at Naval Air Station Oceana, Va. Barker is executive officer of VFA-131, a strike fighter squadron of Carrier Air Wing 7 aboard the DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER. (U.S. Navy photo by MC2 Antonio P. Turretto Ramos)

Defense News



zorgon

Some comments on that blog....

Lee
Dec 21, 2012 @ 11:08

We have our ships lined up and our aircraft nearby, just like at Pearl Harbor. This article has also told our enemies what ships are in and therefore what ships are out and so an idea of what capabilities are on the ocean. Seems to be a big security breech, at least it was when I was in.

I am glad the crew can be home for Christmas. Need to find another way to do that though.


Matt
Dec 21, 2012 @ 10:41

If you can see behind the ships the have torpedo nets. More than capable of stopping torpedoes. As far as planes, those are located off the ships on land. But close enough if others tried to come in they could mote than easily get to them and fight them off. I see no reason to worry about that many ships in port at once.


Alison
Dec 21, 2012 @ 10:05

Can you spell P-E-A-R-L H-A-R-B-O-R round 2?


Thomas Clark
Dec 21, 2012 @ 08:39

Can you spell R-I-S-K ?


Paul Freed
Jan 01, 2013 @ 19:56

Nuclear target...foolish to concentrate so much Naval power in one area. Never would have happened in the Cold War, and if only one nuke "misplaced" by the old Soviet Union before Russia consolidated it's forces found it's way there by way of some enemy we'd lose a lot more than we did at Pearl Harbor.


Jerry Gossel
Dec 21, 2012 @ 11:18

Well My thinking was What the Hell and then I read the comments and I was not alone ! But then the big Boss is in Hawaii and the Sailors are home port taking care of the wife ! Someone dose not know we are at WAR ! World wide ! I remember getting attacked in Vietnam around Christmas time !


Tech Rep
Dec 21, 2012 @ 12:22

Looks like the real Navy from the west coast is taking care of business right now so these folks can be home with momma for the holidays! Frankly, I haven't seen the CVN piers at NOB that full in a long time.

Those "nets" you see behind the ships are not torpedo nets, they are intended to serve as a barrier to keep small boats out and keep oily overboard discharge or other hazardous materials in. I suppose they would be a barrier to torpedoes if anyone actually used them anymore but that is not their primary purpose. There is a 24 hour small boat patrol along the piers to keep lokly-loos and potential threats away. As for air attack, it is highly unlikely, but there are folks keeping that watch 24/7/365.

Capabilities wise, there is no breech. Anyone can find out what ships are in port at any time and ship comings and goings are announced in Navy press releases these days. A sail up or down theankly, I haven't seen the piers at NOB that full in a long time. The aircraft are not "lined up just nearby" since the air wings these days are spread all over the US. Some are in the general vicinity of NOB, some are much further away. As I stated earlier, there are people watching the coast 24/7/365 and any kind of massed surprised attack is highly unlikely. Small boat attack? Sure, that's a much more real threat but the damage is of a smaller scale than something like Pearl Harbor.


Shane Crawford
Dec 26, 2012 @ 13:54

    Tech rep.You have hit the nail on the head concerning all the worries others have. I would be more worried about a small boat attack or a dirty bomb then anything else.


C McGrath
Dec 21, 2012 @ 12:43

Got to admit that is impressive. The show of might on two levels: massive fire power and display of strength; the confidence that says 'we can have our people home for Christmas and know we can still defend ourselves'.

No nation on the planet could take on this much fire power. Merry Christmas and wishing all serving members a joyful time with those they love and protect.



zorgon

I guess we have just gotten cocky and complacent again, assuming that no one out there can possibly take us on :P

And yet... unlike Pearl Harbor that requires an entire strike force...  today it would only need on small yield atomic bomb right in the center and its game over...


Ellirium113

Maybe they ought to paint them all up as targets since it seems absurd to say the least. This at a time when North Korea is claiming to now have nukes that can reach US mainland. Better hope North Korea does not decide it is time to run another "test".


N. Korea: Our nuke missiles can hit mainland US

QuoteNorth Korean nuclear-equipped long-range missiles can now reach the US mainland, an editorial at a state news and propaganda website claimed. The UN Security Council has leveled further sanctions against the rogue nation over its recent nuclear test.

The article at the Uriminzokkiri website claimed that Pyongyang is a "fully independent rocket and nuclear weapons state," warning that the US was no longer safe by being on the other side of the Pacific Ocean.


"The United States should be acutely aware that the US mainland is now well within the range of our strategic rockets and nuclear weapons," the editorial said. The piece was signed by a member of the Korean National Peace Committee, a state propaganda body.

http://rt.com/news/north-korea-nuclear-missile-us-526/

So what could be the motive for doing this?

sky otter



my thoughts are that they knew about this sequester then and are saying
now that the shipyards might close and all the workers will be without work

with defense spending as an item..having the ships already parked and the men onshore
seems to give the big o  some advantage that they are already parked..no time is needed to
bring them all in..they can be decommisioned as they sit

just one of the dominoes ready to be pushed

can you smell set-up


President Barack Obama talks sequester woes in Virginia shipyards (Watch live)
Published: Wednesday, February 27, 2013

The sequester is a package of $85 billion in automatic budget cuts that will go into effect Friday unless Congress takes action.


Virginia is among those states that would be most affected by the spending cuts, according TD Waterhouse. Specifically, the state's shipbuilding industries are projected to suffer.

http://mainlinemedianews.com/articles/2013/02/27/region/doc512cf8ba31468096548420.txt

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Obama visits Va. shipbuilder in warning call on sequester's impact

NEWPORT NEWS, Va. —  President Obama visited a nuclear submarine factory here Tuesday to warn that allowing deep cuts to domestic and defense spending to take effect on Friday will have severe consequences, blaming Republicans for failing to compromise to avert the automatic reductions.

Obama spoke before hundreds of workers, including several wearing hard hats, at Newport News Shipbuilding's supplemental module outfitting facility to illustrate the human cost of the $85 billion in spending cuts, known as the sequester
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-visits-va-shipbuilder-in-warning-call-on-sequesters-impact/2013/02/26/3f6a9152-8045-11e2-a350-49866afab584_story.html

robomont

Nice thread zorgon. This is the big tease for north korea.
My own theory is a bio attack off georgia by nk.then it will look like the cdc screwed something up.this will cause civil war on top of all the deaths from the bug.then nk can pound us while the prez is distracted by the uprisings.
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

burntheships

Bob Woodward has blasted President Obama for his decisions concerning
budget cuts, specifically decisions related to national security, calling Obama's decision " a kind of madness" he has not seen
in a long time.

QuoteAnd so we now have the president going out because of this piece of paper and this agreement, I can't do what I need to do to protect the country. That's a kind of madness that I haven't seen in a long time.

Seems The White House is not happy he wrote about it.

Quote
Well, they're not happy at all and some people kind of, you know, said, look, 'we don't see eye to eye on this.' They never really said, though, afterwards, they've said that this is factually wrong, and they -- and it was said to me in an e-mail by a top --

Blitzer: What was said?

Woodward: It was said very clearly, you will regret doing this.

Blitzer: Who sent that e-mail to you?

Woodward: Well, I'm not going to say.

Blitzer: Was it a senior person at the White House?

Woodward: A very senior person. And just as a matter -- I mean, it makes me very uncomfortable to have the White House telling reporters, 'you're going to regret doing something that you believe in, and even though we don't look at it that way, you do look at it that way.'
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/02/27/woodward_white_house_warned_me_youre_going_to_regret_this.html

It does seem madness, considering that 100 troops were just deployed to Niger to set up a drone base, yet we are going to leave nuclear bearing ships sitting at dock?

Woodwards comments here;

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/02/bob-woodward-blasts-obama-madness-88160.html

and here

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/02/27/woodward_obamas_decision_not_to_deploy_carrier_a_kind_of_madness.html
"This is the Documentary Channel"
- Zorgon

robomont

Stress of the job .like when olbummer said he could kill ameeicans with drones.i think that was in response to the anonymous video posted.it was basically a direct threat.i cant blame anonymous though.the stuff being caused by the whitehouse needs to be addressed.
Then you got kerry running loose.who knows what hes up to.
May need to turn up the a/c at the whitehouse.its seems to be getting hot.
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

zorgon

So send in the Drones to Iqaq, Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan..

Patrol the US/Canadian Border with hunter seeker killer drones...

Deploy 30,000 drones over American soil...

Decide it's okay for drones to take out Americans...

Remember what I said in the ROBOT thread that is just takes one madman?


burntheships

Quote from: sky otter on February 27, 2013, 11:47:03 PM

with defense spending as an item..having the ships already parked and
the men onshore seems to give the big o  some advantage that they are
already parked..no time is needed to bring them all in..they can be
decommisioned as they sit

just one of the dominoes ready to be pushed

can you smell set-up

Indeed sky, yes.  ???
"This is the Documentary Channel"
- Zorgon

robomont

Yep.check recent anonymous youtube post.
If its not a meteor or the economy.they always got something to scare us with.

Better get the tin foil hat ready.the way things are shaping up its gonna be a strange summer.

Matter of fact.dont go on fb.you have all been warned but i hope im wrong.

Ps.if things get much worse .i may have to leave and help my brethren of the nation.lets all hope for peace.
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

Amaterasu

Quote from: burntheships on February 27, 2013, 09:28:56 PM
This would be shocking, then I see that Obama has
ordered it. It seems that there is no end to the
idiocy in that Administration.

A chilling thought, this is not idiocy, its planned.

Idiocy?  Unlikely.  There is an evil plan behind everything this puppet does.  I smell false flag.
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