North Korea says it will launch nuclear attack on America

[hoss58]

Here is a direct link to the Military News at the Pentagon

Might pay to keep an eye on it for deployment news

http://www.pentagonchannel.mil/

Hey... I get this channel from my cable company. part of my upgrade to an HD converter box  and a flat screen TV.

I wonder if we can get John's take on this topic , he hasn't posted here in a while.

[thorfourwinds]

...when they hack our bank accounts to show us struggling folks a ZERO balance on our minmal bank accounts and make us late on making payments...

Greetings:

Of course, one would not make such an accusation without empirical proof to back up such a claim that Anonymous targets 'struggling folks', as that is not the intention...see below.

And what makes you think that Anonymous has anything to do with ZERO bank account balances - it happens all the time - just ask us...    



Anonymous - the story behind the mask

[thorfourwinds]

NK?NEWS.ORG

[micjer]

N. Korean Satellite Flies Over America Over And Over And Over Again In The Next 5 Days

http://beforeitsnews.com/space/2013/04/n-korean-satellite-flies-over-america-over-and-over-and-over-again-in-the-next-5-days-2457512.html

The North Korean satellite launched into space back in December of 2012 that is said to be for weather forecast purposes but is being widely portrayed in the West as a veiled ballistic missile test passes over the East Coast of America and as far west as just west of the New Madrid fault line over and over and over again in the next several days.




http://www.n2yo.com/passes/?s=39026

[deuem]

Now he is pulling his 50,000 workers out of the factories. Hum! We will know for sure on Tuesday.

[thorfourwinds]

North Korea: experts call for dialogue – and say China must play a part

7 April 2013 14.57 EDT

This 2.5-mile-wide strip of land is all that stands between about 1 million heavily armed troops ranged either side of the border between North and South Korea.

South Korean tourists look towards North Korea from the border city of Paju at the weekend. (Photo: Yonhap/AFP)

The atmosphere inside the demilitarised zone (DMZ), established after the 1950-53 Korean War ended in a ceasefire, mirrors the current state of cross-border relations: prolonged tension, occasional flare-ups, and a return to the status quo.

That precarious arrangement has prevented the two Koreas from going to war again, but it has failed to bring a real and lasting peace, say experts who believe the time has come for the US and its allies to consider a new approach to North Korea unthinkable just a week ago. more

An unarmed Minuteman 3 intercontinental ballistic missile leaves a contrail through the sky in California. The test has been rescheduled for next month. (Photo: Greg Vojtko/AP)


US seeks to ease tensions with North Korea by postponing missile test
7 April 2013

The US has attempted to ease rising tensions with North Korea by postponing a missile test scheduled to take place in California next week, lest this be interpreted by Pyongyang as deliberately provocative.

The US defence secretary, Chuck Hagel, decided to delay the long-planned test launch of a Minuteman 3 intercontinental missile from an airbase until next month over concerns it could exacerbate the crisis, officials briefed reporters anonymously.

"This is the logical, prudent and responsible course of action to take,"

a senior defence official was quoted as saying by Reuters.

The test had no connection to North Korea and could be rescheduled for next month, the official said, maintaining that the US remained prepared to respond to any North Korean threat.

Recent days have seen a rapid escalation of Pyongyang's sabre-rattling against the US and its allies in the region, notably South Korea, something described by analysts as a possible attempt by the North's young and untested leader, Kim Jong-un, to shore up his internal power base.

Along with threats of war, including the use of nuclear weapons, this has involved North Korea reportedly moving medium-range missiles to positions where they could potentially strike South Korea, Japan and US bases in the Pacific. more

[Anynonmouses]

A merry-go-round of idiots ruining the planet and getting us into corporate wars. We no longer need "leaders" making decisions "on our behalf," and I move that we permanently adjourn all governments around the globe. We'll sent the bastards home and take charge of our own lives from now on. Those in favor...? Say AYE. Those opposed--YOU ARE AS BAD AS THE PROBLEM ITSELF! Those in favor of governments ruling over us are dismissed (and thanks for playing). This goes for North Korea as well...GROW UP!

Peace and Love,
JD

[1Worldwatcher]

Thanks for the Update TFW!!

As I read the provided articles, it becomes quite apparent that the Global Governments as a whole are taking his accusations quite literally, and there by doing nothing really. I am glad they delayed the test of the ICBM too avoid the issues that could possibly institute a response from NK, but for the most part, I can see only 'ONE' real way to get these events out of the way for either current state of affairs or future "Sabre Rattling" as Sgt. had put it. And we all can probably figure out what I am pertaining by the 'ONE' way.

This is all too hairy of a situation to just sit idly by and ignore, even if the Commander and Chief is doing his own thing, the shadows are dark in those corners too allow for any real visuals of what lays in the shades of Black.

In retrospect, if we take a quick glance at the past decade of time, there has been many a Tyrant that has fallen. Just saying. 

1WW

[thorfourwinds]

Sure could use a translation here.   

North Korea Nukes America - Dream Video - YouTube

Published on Feb 5, 2013

North Korea dreaming of domination over America,
whilst using American produced background music -
Michael Jackson's, We are the World.

Produced by North Korea's official website, Uriminzokkiri,
the video doesn't actually show North Korea nuking America,
it implies America nukes themselves.

Prior to this, large crowds of Koreans are joyous at the re-unification of their two countries.

[thorfourwinds]

"We would win."
John McCain - 7 April 2013








There will be
no 'winner'
of a worldwide
thermonuclear war.

[Ellirium113]

[1Worldwatcher]

ROTFLMAO!!!!!! Ha ha ha ha ha ha!! man did I need that my friend, Hillarious!! If the NK's seen this, they would be at war right now...Ha ha ha ha!!! Too Funny Ellirium....


1WW

[thorfourwinds]

Deadly Climate Change From Nuclear War:
A threat to human existence

Steven Starr, PSR, University of Missouri

Abstract

A tiny fraction of the operational nuclear arsenals, if detonated within large cities, would generate enough smoke to cause catastrophic disruptions of the global climate and massive destruction of the protective stratospheric ozone layer.

Environmental devastation caused by a war fought with many thousands of strategic nuclear weapons would quickly leave the Earth uninhabitable.


Deadly Climate Change and Massive Ozone Destruction from Nuclear War

Nuclear detonations within urban and industrial areas would ignite immense firestorms which would burn everything imaginable and create millions of tons of thick, black smoke. Much of this smoke would rapidly be lofted above cloud level, into the stratosphere, where it would block warming sunlight from reaching the lower atmosphere and surface of the Earth.

Sunlight would then markedly heat the upper atmosphere and cause massive destruction of the protective ozone layer, while darkness below would produce average surface temperatures on Earth characteristic of those experienced during an Ice Age.

The darkness and global cooling predicted to result from nuclear war (along with massive radioactive fallout, pyrotoxins, and ozone depletion) was first described in 1983 as "nuclear winter".

(Courtesy: DeviantArt)

These initial studies estimated the smoke from nuclear firestorms would stay in the stratosphere for about a year. However in 2006, researchers using modern computer models found

the smoke would form a global stratospheric smoke layer that would last for ten years.

The longevity of such a smoke layer would allow much smaller quantities of smoke than first predicted in the 1980's to have a great impact upon both global climate and atmospheric ozone which blocks ultraviolet (UV) light.

Thus scientists predict that even a "regional" nuclear conflict could produce enough smoke to significantly cool average global surface temperatures, reduce precipitation, and vastly increase the amount of dangerous UV light reaching the surface of Earth.

In other words, a nuclear war fought between such nations as India and Pakistan would produce enough smoke to make the blue skies of Earth appear grey.

Although the amount of sunlight blocked by this smoke would not produce the profound darkening of the Earth predicted in a nuclear winter (following a nuclear war fought with thousands of strategic nuclear weapons),

the deadly climate change created by the regional conflict would likely have devastating global effects upon all human populations through its negative influence upon agriculture.

Nuclear War Fought with Hiroshima-size (15 kiloton) Low-Yield Nuclear Weapons

In 2006, U.S. researchers used a NASA computer model (Model 1E, also used for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change to predict global warming) to evaluate the effects of a regional nuclear war fought in the sub-tropics. 50 Hiroshima-size nuclear weapons (15 kilotons per weapon) were detonated in the largest cities of each combatant nation (100 total detonations).

The studies predicted the nuclear explosions would kill 20 million people in the war zone, the equivalent to half of all the people who died during World War II. The conflict would also significantly disrupt global climate. Up to 5 million tons of smoke from burning cities would quickly rise above cloud level into the stratosphere, and within 2 weeks would form a global stratospheric smoke layer which would remain in place for about 10 years. 



'Regional' Nuclear War Would Cause Worldwide Destruction

The computer models estimated this smoke layer would block 7–10% of warming sunlight from reaching the surface of the Earth. Average surface temperatures beneath the smoke would become colder than any experienced during the last 1000 years. There would be a corresponding shortening of growing seasons by up to 30 days and significant reductions in average rainfall in many areas, with a 40% decrease of precipitation in the Asian monsoon region.

Such rapid and drastic climate change would have major impacts on global grain reserves, which already are at 50 year lows. Grain exports would likely cease for several years from large exporting nations like Canada.

The 700 million people now living on the edge of starvation, along with those populations heavily dependent upon grain imports, would face mass starvation as grain reserves disappeared, prices skyrocketed and hoarding occurred.

Global nuclear famine is the predicted result of this scenario. As many as one billion people could die during the years subsequent to the deadly climate change created by this level of nuclear conflict.

Massive increases of UV-B light would clearly have negative impacts upon marine and terrestrial ecosystems, yet no research is being done to investigate the consequences of such a scenario. Likewise, no studies using modern climate models have yet been done to assess ozone depletion following larger nuclear conflicts fought with high-yield strategic nuclear weapons.   

Nuclear War Fought with High-Yield Strategic Nuclear Weapons

The high-yield strategic nuclear weapons in the operational arsenals of the U.S. and Russia have a combined explosive power at least 500 times greater than the low-yield weapons detonated in the regional war conflict. A large fraction of these strategic weapons are kept on high-alert status (in 2009, more than 2000 U.S. and Russian strategic warheads were on high-alert). Virtually all
their land-based intercontinental ballistic missiles are kept ready to launch within 30 seconds to 3 minutes, apparently operating under the policy of Launch-On-Warning.

In 2008, scientists predicted the detonation of 4400 strategic nuclear weapons in large cities could cause 770 million prompt fatalities and produce up to 180 million tons of thick, black smoke.

Ten days after detonation, the smoke would form a dense global stratospheric smoke layer which would block about 70% of warming sunlight from reaching the surface of the Northern Hemisphere and 35% of sunlight from reaching the Southern Hemisphere.

The resulting nuclear darkness would cause rapid cooling of more than 20º C (36º F) over large areas of North America and of more than 30º C (54º F) over much of Eurasia (Figure 2). Daily minimum temperatures would fall below freezing in the largest agricultural areas of the Northern Hemisphere for a period of between one to three years. Average global surface temperatures would become colder than those experienced 18,000 years ago at the height of the last Ice Age.

The cooling of the Earth's surface would weaken the global hydrological cycle and the Northern Hemisphere summer monsoon circulations would collapse because the temperature differences
that drive them would not develop. As a result, average global precipitation is predicted to decrease by 45%.   

The cumulative effects of deadly climate change and ozone destruction would eliminate growing seasons for more than a decade. Catastrophic climatic effects lasting for many years would occur in regions far removed from the target areas or the countries involved in the conflict.

Under such conditions, it is likely that most humans and large animal populations would die of starvation.

               

Conclusions

The scientific studies summarized in this paper make it clear that the environmental consequences of a "regional" nuclear conflict could kill hundreds of millions of people far from the war zone. Deadly climate change caused by a war fought with the strategic nuclear arsenals of the U.S. and Russia would threaten the continued survival of the human species.
 
Yet neither the U.S., nor Russia, nor any other nuclear weapons state has ever officially evaluated what effects a war fought with their nuclear arsenals would have upon the Earth's climate and ecosystems.

Surely it is time for such evaluations to be openly conducted and made subject to public discussion. Nations with nuclear weapons should be required to create Environmental Impact Statements on the likely results of the detonation of their arsenals in conflict.
 
Deadly climate change from nuclear war must become a primary topic in the debate about the need for "a world without nuclear weapons". This discussion must include the dangers posed by the nuclear arsenals of all nations, including those in the U.S. and Russia.

A failure to recognize and describe the omnicidal potential of strategic nuclear arsenals will prevent the abolition discussion from developing the sense of urgency needed to bring about fundamental change in the nuclear status quo.

The nuclear weapons which are kept ready for virtually instant use constitute a well-maintained self-destruct mechanism for the human race. What political or national goals can possibly justify the existence of such a threat?

There can be no "victory" in universal suicide.

Therefore, the U.S. and Russia must recognize the senselessness of continued preparations for a nuclear war, or a "successful" nuclear first-strike, which would make the whole world – including their own country – uninhabitable.

It is imperative that they renounce the first use of nuclear weapons, stand-down their high-alert nuclear forces (which make accidental nuclear war possible through launch-on-warning postures), and dismantle the tens of thousands of nuclear weapons in their active and reserve arsenals.

 
Nuclear weapons cannot ultimately provide "national security" when a single failure of nuclear deterrence can end human history.

Unless deterrence works perfectly forever, nuclear arsenals will eventually be used in conflict. 

We must abolish these arsenals – before they abolish us. 

[1Worldwatcher]

TFW, I want to personally thank you for the time and effort apparent with in the "Cause and Effects" should a Nuclear War breakout for understanding what would lie a head for the Human Species as a whole.

The impact of this event taking place, regardless of the Launch and target areas, would surely put much at risk for many years. I know that NK is not a world power, but even one of these scenario's of one missile being sent, it would be catastrophic for years too come, there by not just being a circumstance of the NK Gov. being at the helm of catastrophe , but the populace as a collective.

My daughter is not here with me right now, but she will appreciate what you have given us for deductive reasoning with in such an event, if it should take Place. When my daughter and I looked into this with in our research, we couldn't get validations of one specific out come of low or high yield situation, as the report here states "Nobody has ever compiled this type of information for public consumption and debate." Quite scary actually, and we (My daughter and I ) Appreciate your vigilance and commitment of the research you have done for all of us here on PRC and our personal loved ones too pass this vital and detrimental information on, too discuss, debate and make some noise for these events to be scientifically researched.

You have did us justice my friend, the importance of our (My Daughters and my question of what would life be like after such an event should it happen.) lack of knowledge and the importance that lays with in these catastrophic and unnecessary events of nuclear war and conflicts leading too such a demise.

The Lunacy of powers with in these country's of apparent disregard for the human race as a whole must be irradicated, for if one leader, anywhere can yield so much threat to the entirety of the planet, and wield it as if it is a puppet on a string with careless and reckless abandon, this is truly a time of reckoning and a very loud wake up call for us all that "It is a time for action, not deliberation and conjecture."

With all the cards on the proverbial table, the time is now, and should be dealt with post haste, and not as a mere "Possibility", because sometime, somewhere, as long as these country's have Nuclear Weapons, someone will eventually use them with no discretion or prejudice, there by leaving everyone else too pay the price for Narcissistic and Egomaniacal ideologies,  with the end game being all for naught.

Spectacular TFW, absolutely and astoundingly put together for explanation,  can't say "thank you!!" enough, as I am sure my daughter will be just as grateful for the insight you have offered.

Let us hope this will not happen, when one has to openly admit that "Only time will tell." with this case and scenario, things are way too out of control with the mindset of some of these country's leaders and dictator's capable of doing such a herendous act against Humanity.

With Great Respect,
Your Friend Always,
1Worldwatcher

[Pimander]

Thor is right.  Lets hope this isn't the first move toward the population decrease that certain forces believe is required.