Radient Receivers

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1WW

I did a basic survey and with all the rain that we have had this year the data is use less. The new ground that I installed is probally in the water table just a few feet away from my cave. So maybe and probally I am going about this the wrong way.

O Starwarp thanks for the last link. I am about half way done reading it.

Tesla said that your capicator has to be the best quality mica available. Well I have been testing with mostly electricolitic caps I know stupid me I have dug in to my junk and found what I think to be mica caps. I will be seeing if there are any improvements. I have beeing looking into the silver mica caps best you can get now, They are expensive.

Well that is where I am at for now.

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1WW

I did a basic survey and with all the rain that we have had this year the data is use less. The new ground that I installed is probally in the water table just a few feet away from my cave. So maybe and probally I am going about this the wrong way.

Well Back , with in all things science and research , may be surprised if lets say you found out that the ground after saturation has become more feasible for such an application ? huh.

The direction you are going is pretty basic and the plans and lay out were going to be a hit or miss regardless, but in all things fundamental with Radiant Receiver, and from what you have discussed this far, let us keep moving forward with what we have and then make changes where necessary.

Getting EMF readings and distances for lay lines would have not changed, may be in magnitude, but not orientation of Earths selective EMF fields.

1WW

[robomont]

the salts in the ground make the best grounds.sand makes a terrible ground.thats why florida has such bad lightning.the sand acts like a dielectric.

a good ground and a good airiel like a pointed rod or wire.is all that is necessary to get a voltage reading.

i hope im not giving info yall already know.

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1WW please post the other pic. that I sent you so Robo can see. Rain again today so no good readings. My comp is locking up and I havent figured it out yet.

good ground and a good airiel like a pointed rod or wire.is all that is necessary to get a voltage reading.

Robo you are correct. What is bothering me is I should be getting a larger voltage reading than MV. I will send links and quotes as soon as I get my comp figured out. The wife down loaded angry birds and a lot of trash with it. I think I am secure after deleating about 15 things but  the comp locks when I try to look at PDF files I will get it fixed soon
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[1Worldwatcher]

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1WW please post the other pic. that I sent you so Robo can see. Rain again today so no good readings. My comp is locking up and I havent figured it out yet.

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Here you go Back:

This is the area leading to the Creek where ground post is running with antenna/Ariel.


This is a picture of the receiver plate mounted 6 ft. -8 ft. high


This 8x10 Oscilloscope reading when in charge state


If there is any editing that needs too be done with the descriptions Back, PM me and let me know, or, you can cut and paste directly with image button on 'Post Reply' page. (The click button next to the You Tube on the right of it.)

With Great Respect,
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[robomont]

the o scope wave form is cool.

you may try a pointy rod instead of a sheet.the sheet may be hindering it due to resonant factors. a piece of barn tin pointed at the sun would do better acting like a solar cell.because of the zinc.maybe.

the signal your getting now could be cleaned up by sending through a transformer maybe.
one thing i didnt understand is are you now getting millivolts?you should get better than that.your tounge can put off millivolts.

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Most of the electricity we pick up comes from house wiring, cellphones etc etc.

Back is in the middle of nowhere, outside, so i would expect very little noise, and in fact that's a very clean signal on the scope.

Have you tried aligning that plate N-S? I know i said it should not make a difference (like the ground wires) but then again i could be wrong

Let's face it, if i was clever i would be rich already

I think a larger plate, mounted as high as possible, maybe change the placing of the ground wires, & crank up an L-C circuit using the ground & plate as the capacitor. Tuning is done by tapping the coil at various points.

Good old fashioned Tesla stuff!

I will try & get some more files posted here, but you may have to nudge me, i'm prone to forgetting stuff (yes i have reached that age )

[robomont]

lc circuit.i figured he already had that.just assumed.thats what his avatar is.

where can a person find a new tuner cheap?how about an automatic tuner?

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1WW

All I have to add is when the antenna is up it is 12 ft in the air. Also if my oscope is close to being in calibration the signal is 98 HZ

The thing that bothers me most is the lack of voltage rise for this design. If I remember correctly Tesla was able to get very high voltage. I can not. I also think the signal that I am getting is some how related to grid power.

Sorry so short but I have a lot to do. I did start a word doc to try to but my thoughts in. LOL on that.

I need voltage to make this work. That is why I have looked into silver mica caps. They are the best that I can find.

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[robomont]

dry winter air works best.thats part of the reason for tesla in colorado.all the humidity in air is killing it.

[1Worldwatcher]

Might do good at this point to go back and take another look too see if Tesla had issues with this situation as well.

U.S. Patent 0,645,576[4] - System of Transmission of Electrical Energy - 1900 March 20 - Commonly referred to as the radio patent; Related to wireless telegraphy; Wireless transmission of electric power through the natural media; Cites well known radiant energy phenomena and the experiments of William Crookes; Corrects previous errors in theory of behavior when used by the methods and means of Mr. Tesla; Discovery of highly important and useful facts which heretofore have been unknown; Deprive dialectic of air when impressing electromotive forces of a certain character and magnitude unto it; Conductivity of the air increases with the augmentation of the pressure and the rarefaction; Law of conductivity of the air is quite different from heretofore established; Illustrations of the facts.

System of Transmission of Electrical Energy

Apparatus to Utilize Radiant energy W/Designs

Inventors: NIKOLA TESLA, NIKOLA TESLA
Current U.S. Classification: 398/202; 250/372

Apparatus for converting radio frequency energy to direct current
US 4685047 A
ABSTRACT
Apparatus for and methods of converting radio frequency energy into direct current for generating electric power includes a dipolar antenna for receiving radio frequency energy and a circuit connected thereto for converting the radio frequency energy to direct current. The circuit has a positive output line connected to one pole of the antenna and a negative output line connected to the other pole of the antenna. A positive transmitting diode is in the positive output line and a negative transmitting diode is in the negative output line. First and second bus lines and a pair of tuned circuits of opposite polarity couple the positive output line and negative line to the bus line with one of the bus lines being connected to ground. Each tuned circuit includes a first bridging line connecting the positive output line to the first and second ground lines and a second bridging line connecting the negative output line to the first and second ground lines. Each bridging line has a diode therein oriented at a polarity which is reverse with respect to the input diode. The bridging lines of each tuned circuit are connected to one another by an inductance and have capacitors disposed between the diode and the bus lines. A direct current device is connected to the positive line of the circuit.

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And just for the record, I was always under the interpretation that when there is electrical or Frequency based objects with in atmospheric conditions, that this would not initially effect the conductor pate do to the resonance it was emitting?

Though I do remember the 'Why's" Tesla chose Colorado as a testing ground, but thought that he had stated somewhere that as along as frequency is obtained and oscillation was acquired that the Arid/Humid theology was thrown out the window.

I can't remember any more for sure, very tired, been fishing all night, just want too help and contribute to Backs current debacle, cause if Tesla was able to do this, we should be able to at least reproduce same effects with in measure. Not?

And if I remember right PWM, Back lives in an area that is surrounded by radio tower's and cell phone towers, may be wrong here, but he can jump in with that information to either validate or contest this to be what we had discussed previously.

1WW

[robomont]

i believe dry air works best.ionized before a storm works too but b careful.im sure tesla had it dialed in better but these things i mention will get you pointed in the right direction.there may be something to that antennae design.i dont  know.that schematic above is basically the same thing as the avatar.only using more.there may be something to having more than one by setting up a resonant frequency that supplies an even higher power output.i dont know just speculating.

this last week.candy crush has been begging me to update even tho i deleated the game.i personally dont trust free games on the internet.call it a hunch.

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

ok i've been reading a bit.
Energetic forums are a great bunch, we should liase more often

I would like to point out a few things that may clear the field somewhat.

There are several sources at work here, all of them quite natural and as you would expect from Nature they all react with each other.

First of all you have the huge potential difference between earth & sky, somewhere in the Gigavolt region.

Then you have oscillations in that potential, like the Schumann resonance etc, all they way up to 'cosmic wind' ultra-high frequencies.

Then you have the earths own magnetic field, locally quite weak but on a planetary scale it's strong enough to bend high energy particles into the polar region.
This field has oscillations, too, as in Ley lines etc, certain sensitive peeps can even feel them (dowsers or water diviners).

So you see for every possible source we have both a 'static' or D.C. and a 'dynamic' or A.C. component.
Steinmetz has done something similar with his math, which i find not only genius, but also very funny, it's so very close to Maxwells original 'quaternions' but at the same time extremely refined.

Now i'm not a math person really, but it seems that the simpler explanations are the best ones.

This is all standard textbook stuff, we havent broken any holy 'laws' of human physics...........yet.

Now it gets interesting, i remember a guy calles Stubblefield who-presumably having read some of Teslas stuff or been to his lectures- had invented something called an 'earth telephone'.
This device not only got it's power from the ground, but it also transmitted signals through it!
Re; that last post Bill, reminds me of fractional antennas....sacred geometry at work??

I will try & dig up the (very meagre) info i have on this, it seems we should be looking at a dual-purpose machine here.

Just look at the very first 'hertzian' radio, and the Radiant reciever, and the ground system, they are nearly identical.

I get the feling that the copper & zinc are just using the acidity of the soil, & it's just a chemical action.

But who cares, if it's free, it's free, right?
Later!

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PWM thanks for giving your thoughts. I have strayed from the the initial reason for this thread because all the long I had a bad ground

This link provides info about Tesla origional patent that I am trying to copy.

http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-685,958-utilizing-radiant-energy

In my opinion it is all about getting a capicator to charge to hi voltage. That is something that i have been unable to do. Untill I can do that controls are worthless.

If you look at the link it is very simple. I have been only to charge to average 250 mv. I should be able to get much higher. I am trying to figure out why I cant. It is my opinion that I do not have a cap that is good enough to store what I am recieving. I am getting ready to order some silver mica caps the best military grade . If that does not get me a higher voltage then I have to re group.

Option 1 is quit.

2 I have read his pattens about building caps and try to build some my self

3 Believe that the Gmt has hidden the way to build such caps. I can believe

4 Tesla was full of crap on this idea. I dont believe

With the average of 200v per meter from ground to the sky in theory I should be able to get lots of volts with my set up. Yes it might tahe a long time for it to charge but I cant get over the 300 mv threashhold.

I guess what I am saying i look at the link. If you can help then please do if not this thread will fade because I have no more to add.
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[1Worldwatcher]

@ Back:

We have been trying to assist, but without being there and with very little too good description's of what is and what is not being acclimated, I can only suggest you do the check list provided by the Radiant Energy Patent's Tesla has offered Back.

Having described my invention, what I claim is—

1. The method of utilizing radiant energy, which consists in charging one of the armatures of a condenser by rays or radiations, and the other armature by independent means, and discharging the condenser through a suitable receiver, as set forth.

2. The method of utilizing radiant energy, which consists in simultaneously charging a condenser by means of rays or radiations and an independent source of electrical energy, and discharging the condenser through a suitable receiver, as set forth.

3. The method of utilizing radiant energy, which consists in charging one of the armatures of a condenser by rays or radiations, and the other by independent means, controlling the action or effect of said rays or radiations and discharging the condenser through a suitable receiver, as set forth.

4. The method of utilizing radiant energy, which consists in charging one of the armatures of a condenser by rays or radiations and the other by independent means, varying the intensity of the said rays or radiations and periodically discharging the condenser through a suitable receiver, as set forth.

5. The method of utilizing radiant energy, which consists in directing upon an elevated conductor, connected to one of the armatures of a condenser, rays or radiations capable of positively electrifying the same, carrying off electricity from the other armature by connecting the same with the ground, and discharging the accumulated energy through a suitable receiver, as set forth.

6. The method of utilizing radiant energy, which consists in charging one of the armatures of a condenser by rays or radiations, and the other by independent means, and effecting by the automatic discharge of the accumulated energy the operation or control of a suitable receiver, as set forth.

TESLA PATENT 685,958 METHOD OF UTILIZING RADIANT ENERGY

Which is also what I had posted with in my response to you and with in trying to figure out what has too be done, from a far, it is granted we can only contribute what you are describing.

I hope you do not give up, if you do, it is all for 'Nil' and deserves your furthering for, if anything , personal gratification of figuring this out.

Give more insight, send me some more pictures and explanation's give us a template of what it is that you plan and also, waiting for the property mapping of the possible lay lines of influence, these are what we have to 'Have' from you and our participation.

I wish I could jump in the truck and drive over to your home, Back, but that is not going to happen, so we need more data. More facts, and more information.

I have a feeling you are going to find Geometry is going to be fundamental with in getting all 'Possibilities' researched.

1WW