Radient Receivers

[robomont]

the o scope is the answer.all signals that you recieve are energy.if the voltage was as high as you think .there would be sparks in the air.also you can have a gigavolt but if your current or amperage is .0000000000000000001 then you will still have no power.volts x amps = watts.watts is power.thats why i have a hard time believing in the tesla car and a few others.now if you had wardencliff running from a few miles away.then there is a good chance you could drive around in a radient reciever car.

if i had the money i would build a thousand cheap recievers because thats the only way i know to bump up the power/ watts.

i could be wrong but in my personal research thats what i came up with.
your work is not in vain.as even i am learning from you.plus if you fail then we will be hesitant to go down that path again.plus new members    will learn from you and not make those mistakes if thats what they are.
ultimately i thankyou for the effort.we shall overcome.

[starwarp2000]

Energetic forums are a great bunch, we should liase more often

I have extended an invitation to Aaron Murakami (One of the co-founders) and hope to get him here for a chat. (Maybe Eric Dollard too: But he doesn't like or use computers)

So you see for every possible source we have both a 'static' or D.C. and a 'dynamic' or A.C. component.
Steinmetz has done something similar with his math, which i find not only genius, but also very funny, it's so very close to Maxwells original 'quaternions' but at the same time extremely refined.

Yes, it is close to Maxwells 'quaternions', but they were uncalculable for 4 variable problems. Steinmetz simplified them to allow for the 'engineering' of the technology.

it gets interesting, i remember a guy calles Stubblefield who-presumably having read some of Teslas stuff or been to his lectures- had invented something called an 'earth telephone'.
This device not only got it's power from the ground, but it also transmitted signals through it!

Try these for starters, PWM:

http://anomalyinfo.com/articles/sa00005.php

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Stubblefield

http://www.icehouse.net/john1/stubblefield.html

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/0887357.pdf

[starwarp2000]

Ergo Stubblefield:

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Hey All

I am Back

Sorry I had so many things going on that I was stressing to the max.

http://www.earthinginstitute.net/commentaries/gaetan_electrical_surface.pdf

I tried to copy page 5 here but could not.

1WW
If you have not seen it it is some thing for you.

Robo

As you can see there is a huge voltage differential. Current is very small. That is why we dont have sparks ect.

More later after you all have time to look at it

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[robomont]

back .i am not trying to offend you so please dont take this personally.

i had to stop after the second page of lies.that thing is loaded with inaccuracies.

there is no way lightning is 300,000 vdc.the ground where it hit would be molten and radioactive.a lightning strike.300,000vdc x 2000 amps is 600,000,000 watts or 600,000 kilowatts of power.and because of that level of voltage radiation would be created.think small nuke.alpha beta and gamma.
second his ohm details are exactly backwards.ohms are resistence and saying dry ground has almost no resitence to electricity.in fairly land maybe.
at least now you know.

[robomont]

dont be dismayed though.pwm and i are sending you down the right path of research.

[robomont]

i would recommend taking plywood.drill alot of equally spaced holes.put nail in each hole.glue in place.solder wire to each linking all.if you can tell me the voltage you originally got then i can tell you spacing distance between the nails.i bet with a thousand nails you may be able to get some serious power.its in the spacing.i think.

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Hey Robo
No problem
I would ask that you look at it more closer. The first referance is to the average total power of  all stormes are producing not just 1 lighting strike.

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[robomont]

there is know way to say that .it sure wouldnt be by say a voltage rating.the average lightning bolt is around 10,000 volts.the current is a little harder to figure out.

if you can get a voltage reading of the air on a normal day.then i could tell you what your antenna spacing should be.i will relook .

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

back .i am not trying to offend you so please dont take this personally.

i had to stop after the second page of lies.that thing is loaded with inaccuracies.

there is no way lightning is 300,000 vdc.the ground where it hit would be molten and radioactive.a lightning strike.300,000vdc x 2000 amps is 600,000,000 watts or 600,000 kilowatts of power.and because of that level of voltage radiation would be created.think small nuke.alpha beta and gamma.
second his ohm details are exactly backwards.ohms are resistence and saying dry ground has almost no resitence to electricity.in fairly land maybe.
at least now you know.

Well i would like to correct you guys a little:

In my time as a T.V. man i went to houses that had their antennas struck by lightning, needless to say the tv was kaput and so was the antenna.

Having examined the wiring, i found that the copper core of the co-ax cable from the antenna was not only melted, it was completely gone.

So that means the level (& speed) of the strike was enough to completely vapourise the copper core while leaving the (very soft & inflammable) PVC insulation completely intact.

Sad but true. I saw the results.
In effect, a billion watts can flow through a bolt of lightning, thats what happens within this actual universe, & that's what attracted me the most to 762's posts.

We have a new mega-brain amongst us, methinks, let's give him the welcome he deserves

Shaun, i will read stuff & get back to you, mate

[robomont]

pwm may be correct about our new member.if we could get him to come down to more basic things it would help.

back.i read some more and most of his later statements are generally true.its his beginning numbers that are incorrect.

i stand by my statement that multiple attenas or sharp points is the way to go.it can be built cheap but its going to take some time to build.
i would guess pwm would agree with me on this.i would hope you would go forward.just change your path a little.

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Hey Robo

Can we agree that the voltage potential is there but with virtually no amps?

Tesla said that it took time to charge, I believe that I am not getting a higher voltage because of the poor quality of caps that I am testing. I have tested probally 100 caps and find some really funny things going on. For example I have tested 2 new caps form the same co with the same value and ratings1 would charge and the other would not. Tesla said that they had to be the finest mica. None of the caps that I have tested have been mica.

I have my eye on some silver mica that I plan on getting pay day. I will see if that improves anything.

I am intrested in your nail thing. Please give me more info on your thughts on this. I could do a test kind of easy. I have plenty of ply wood and a nail gun.

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[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Shawn, i have some 5.5v nanofoil caps you can try, they are 1.1 FARADS each 
1,100,000 microfarads

The kind of voltage you want, but with the storage capacity of a football field full of ordinary capacitors.
Just PM me with your adress & i will send you a couple
Have 2 go,
Later!

[robomont]

the voltage should be at least 50vdc.the amps may be .01.
so if you have 200 nails then this should get you 50vdc x  2amps.that would be 100 watts.so ten sheets of plywood should get you 1000 watts or 1 kilowatt.that would power alot of stuff.

the plywood wood have 1 nail every inch.use a tape measure to mark off inches on all sides then use a chalk line and snap lines.put a nail everywhere two lines cross.thene solder a continuous wire to all of them.then hook wire to cap.be careful.those caps are dangerous and if it dont kill you it will make you mean for a few hours.air conditioner test meters usually have a capacitor tester.almost any cap will work.find an ac tech and ask him to test them or go to ac supply house.they would test your caps for free.

i just dont know the real voltage that the thing is picking up and if voltage is too high then the cap will short out internally.

i think you are overthinking it or got bad caps.you wont even need caps if you get enough plywood with nails.

[robomont]

high voltage likes points.thats why lightning rods on towers have points.a flat sheet of metal has four points.not real pointy.the more points and the more height are what you want.thats why tesla coils are roundish and so are vandegraphs.to cut down on sparking until a very high charge builds up.if a tesla coil had a point on it then the voltage would leak and the lightning bolts would be tiny little threads.you want to collect the tiny threads.thats why you want points.if im wrong about voltage in the air and its even higher.like on a windy and dry day.then be very careful.remember to have your attenae mount insulated from the ground.like rubber pads or something.the plywood should be a good insulator though.just dont get treeted plywood as its full of salts that conduct.