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water on mars maybe?

Started by dragar, March 24, 2013, 09:58:17 PM

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ArMaP

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Another version of the panorama, this time with the horizon in the right position.  :-[

I forgot the link. ;D

It's this one.

VillageIdiot

Quote from: ArMaP on March 25, 2013, 12:46:53 AM
Here is the original photo.
Damn if that doesn't look PhotoShopped.

Underneath the overhanging rock on the left, foreground.

dragar

So u think it it fine sand that seems like the liquid im talking about ArMap. For me still looks like liquid.

ArMaP

Quote from: VillageIdiot on March 25, 2013, 01:15:23 AM
Damn if that doesn't look PhotoShopped.
If it was Photoshopped nobody would notice. :)

ArMaP

Quote from: dragar on March 25, 2013, 01:21:06 AM
So u think it it fine sand that seems like the liquid im talking about ArMap.
Yes, just sand, only extreme fine sand.

QuoteFor me still looks like liquid.
If it was a liquid, the sand below it would appear with a different colour, right?
And there would be a "frontier" between the liquid and the dry ground near it.

Also, an extremely fine dust acts like a liquid, the original Diesel engines could use, besides what is now called Diesel fuel, several types of oil or coal dust.

zorgon

Quote from: Edward on March 24, 2013, 10:53:54 PM
And the planet mars is red with a red sky too I suppose you still believe?

We settled the blue sky issue long ago :P Even ArMaP is on board with that. And the new NASA images from Curiosity are now showing blue skies.

As to water  Well this one sure looks wet with reflection. Doesn't look like Mars though. I will have to see the original source. I am sure ArMap has it by now :D

But why all the fuss about water on Mars? NASA already told us day time temps in summer can reach 80 F And ESA already showed us snow and a frozen lake...


The Matrix Traveller

Awesome Photo Z.... I wonder if Mars has "Sinkholes" too.

zorgon

Also this huge river delta



Lakes



Pack Ice Spotted Near the Mars Equator 


Plates of apparent fractured pack ice spotted near the Mars equator (left) compared to ice in the Weddell Sea, Antarctica. Credit: Nature

Glacier at Base of Olympus Mons Volcano on Mars


A glacier at the base of the towering Olympus Mons volcano on Mars (left) compared to an Antarctic glacier. Deposits in the left image are darkened for emphasis. Credit: Nature/ESA/ David Marchant



zorgon


The Matrix Traveller

Water under the Surface of Mars ?

I think so....  :)

VillageIdiot

Quote from: ArMaP on March 25, 2013, 02:03:56 AM
If it was Photoshopped nobody would notice. :)
It doesn't look right. It looks blurry under there and too uniform.

Pimander

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on March 25, 2013, 10:10:17 AM
Water under the Surface of Mars ?

I think so....  :)
So do I.  I base that opinion on the fact that liquid water has existed on the surface in the past and the temperature beneath the surface could allow liquid water to exist for long periods of time - perhaps enough to allow life to survive down there.

ArMaP


ArMaP

Quote from: Pimander on March 25, 2013, 01:32:45 PM
So do I.  I base that opinion on the fact that liquid water has existed on the surface in the past and the temperature beneath the surface could allow liquid water to exist for long periods of time - perhaps enough to allow life to survive down there.
And the pressure is higher, although I don't how much the pressure increases with depth.

Pimander

Quote from: ArMaP on March 25, 2013, 02:16:44 PM
And the pressure is higher, although I don't how much the pressure increases with depth.
Well the Mariana trench on Earth is 10km deep and has a pressure of 1000 bars (1000 times atmospheric pressure).  It is also almost completely dark.   The temperarue is between 1C and 4C.  Is there life there?



QuoteXenophyophores have been found in the trench by Scripps Institution of Oceanography researchers at a record depth of 10.6 km (6.6 mi) below the sea surface.[6] On 17 March 2013, researchers reported data that suggested microbial life forms thrive in the Mariana Trench.[7][8] Other researchers reported related studies that microbes thrive inside rocks up to 1900 feet below the sea floor under 8500 feet of ocean off the coast of the northwestern United States.[7][9] According to one of the researchers,"You can find microbes everywhere — they're extremely adaptable to conditions, and survive wherever they are."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariana_Trench



We KNOW that life can survive in those conditions so beneath the surface of Mars looks like a possibility.

Then there is the alien base at Cydonia.  That looks like pure BS to me though....  :o