Extraterrestrials: What Are They Waiting For?

[Eighthman]

Oh, and there was that guy that wrote 'Hair Of The Alien'.  Claimed that two weird looking females popped up in his bedroom and he got to nail one of them ( a VAST IMPROVEMENT OVER PROBING BY GREYS!  Space Brothers, listen to me!  Just ASK! Offer some 'encouragement'!  Most guys will cooperate, many eagerly)

Anyhow, he had it analyzed and it came back as Really Weird But Human. 

[Pimander]

Dr Lier supposedly has a piece of Roswell metal and he supposedly has removed alien implants... yet he will not let any independent lab analyze them... I wonder why

I suspect Leir removed or pretended to remove a piece of meteorite from at least one (probably more I forget) of his subjects.  The details that made me suspect, I forget for the moment.  specifically, I remember noting that the properties of the "implant" fitted several characteristics that normally suggest meteorite. However, if the object was a meteorite fragment, then it was nothing special apart from the claim that it had been removed from an alleged "abductee".

As usual, it is difficult to say more that whether our "spidy sense" (whatever you call your gut reaction) says true false or maybe.  incontestable facts are a rare commodity.  I have a few that I know but cant prove.  I will keep most of them to myself until I have satisfied myself that I am not being taken for a ride or wasting my breath on anyone who doubts my word.  Honour still counts for something.

[Pimander]

So, there is some order or collective understanding or CONTROL undiscerned at work here, folks. Can't be otherwise

I  see what you mean.  If said said order is at work, then the question of who, what and why the control is in place must matter to more members that me alone?

Any potential explanation is welcome.  I can't say that I am sure myself.

[zorgon]

Anyhow, he had it analyzed and it came back as Really Weird But Human.

Don't get me wrong... I believe in the Visitors... have spent over 30 years studying and looking and those years have led me to awesome contacts in the black world and some stories I cannot even share.

I have posted in many threads that in my opinion 80%ish are natural and local living plasma creatures that were called "Critters' in 1954 by Trevor J Constable and even Jim Oberg sent me a late 1960's NASA report of 'plasma phenomena plaguing their spacecraft (what many today call NASA UFO's ) 15%ish are the black ops craft and I include the black triangle in that group (those I can document ) and 5%ish are the true visitors like the "Venusians" that came in the 50's. (I am of the opinion that they are not from Venus, but said that because in the 50's we were more likely to accept another race that looks like us living on our sister world

No then on that DNA... there is one problem... IF some alien race looks like us... and the words in Genesis 1:26 have any truth at all; Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness."  Then why would we expect that DNA to be Alien  

Here are some Venusians from the 50's I understand Valiant is still alive here on Earth last I checked. Be nice to get him in here



Here is a nice clear sunny day on Venus showing contrails with shadows....



And here is one of our non existent triangle space planes taken by STS 61 in 1986...but of course NASA will tell you it is space debris while at th same time some of their employees in Palmdale are singing a different tune

OH and anyone who says this is the TR3-B gets a free 2 week ban

[Edward]

Nicely said and I agree with you.  Also have to fix money as we currently use it(mis-use it).

Edward

I think what disturbs Me most is that, even in the controlled state most are in, Humans on the whole want to get along - and it is because of war profiteering by the few that propaganda and lies are promulgated to ensure war.  Corporate profit motive ensures that the cheapest and not the cleanest approach to manufacturing is the path taken.  Waste is rampant as "planned obsolescence" abounds in the products produced, again driven by profit.

So...  In order to "[g]et [Our] planet in better shape and stop warring (, monkey-boys)," We Humans must eliminate corporate profit motive.  This will end war profiteering, dirty production, and products made to fail.  And, as most here know, I have shown that free energy is the key to removing all said problems.

Point is, MOST Humans are (or could be, with such motive removed and therefore such lies and propaganda) willing to get along and simple avoid Those They do not like.  Without profit motive, wars would dwindle to nothing.

[Edward]

There is a big Lie going on Zorgon.  But with a lie there must be some element of truth in it.  As the lie gets bigger more truth has to be inserted to keep the "illusion"  a live and well, because no one would believe it other wise.  With that said.  We have to change socially.  Is humanity ready for free energy yes we are.  Amaterasu has it right and in the right path of some of what needs to happen.


Quote from: Amaterasu on Today at 11:12:06 AM

   " I think what disturbs Me most is that, even in the controlled state most are in, Humans on the whole want to get along - and it is because of war profiteering by the few that propaganda and lies are promulgated to ensure war.  Corporate profit motive ensures that the cheapest and not the cleanest approach to manufacturing is the path taken.  Waste is rampant as "planned obsolescence" abounds in the products produced, again driven by profit.

    So...  In order to "[g]et [Our] planet in better shape and stop warring (, monkey-boys)," We Humans must eliminate corporate profit motive.  This will end war profiteering, dirty production, and products made to fail.  And, as most here know, I have shown that free energy is the key to removing all said problems.

    Point is, MOST Humans are (or could be, with such motive removed and therefore such lies and propaganda) willing to get along and simple avoid Those They do not like.  Without profit motive, wars would dwindle to nothing."
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Getting rid of the Profiteering for war, and the manipulation of  money and how it's currently being abused.  I know I said earlier misused but it's blatantly being abused and US along with it.

Also Zorgon don't give the new agers such a bum wrap.  They like you or me are just as prone to making claims that would later turn out to be not what they aimed for or intended.  Such is life and we learn and grow but just like the New agers you, me, them, everyone that is on this path of truth and enlightement  we all are striving for the same goal so let's not lose sight of that.  We are all trying to help each other and the planet. 


Edward

Why humons are not ready I have posted many times  in fact just a few minutes ago here
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=4123.msg54831#msg54831

With the whole 2012 issue that went nuts on the web then was a no show... the new agers taking credit for stopping it... well it just shows how hu-mons truly are still in kindergarten... they will jump on ANYTHING and make up any 'fact' to back their claim

Why is there no disclosure? Why are the ET not helping us?

Well what if there are no ET around here right now (not counting the plasma critters that live here )

[1Worldwatcher]

With the research going into Mt-DNA with in retrospect of allocating the Neanderthal genome with in the species we are, they have found out it still exists, and can even map the process of cross contamination's with this type of research. There by proving the lineage of Neanderthal and Homosapiens interbreeding when the species was quite un-evolved as of yet.

They are also currently looking into the so called "Junk DNA" to decipher what the term of this left over or 'Junk DNA' really is, might not be in our life time, but I am sure when the truth of the matter is told, it will relate us to what we suspect as 'Fact' of the whole "Ancient Alien" theoretical notions once and for all.

Like those Venus Pic's 'Z' very profound images!!

1WW

[Edward]

I couldnt agree with you more.

Edward

We're past the question of "Do ETs exist," and I can tell you why they haven't landed yet en mass...

First off, there are so many different kinds of ETs out there and even among us that you might genuinely freak out to meet them. Some are insect-looking, some reptilian, some have cat-like features and some are eerily similar to ourselves.

The fact is that our own DNA is a composite of several types of alien DNA amalgamated to put us into the basic form we experience today. The wrinkly skin is a combination of reptilian and primate, the musculature and ligaments are a combination of insect and cetacious...we're a junk drawer put-together adapted for this particular environment.

WHY HAVEN'T THEY LANDED YET?

The policy of the Galactic Federation of Light (a like-minded association of many kinds of alien beings, most of which we derive our genetics from) presently monitoring and guarding our solar system and planet, is that intervention is only allowed once we have matured enough as a species. Before full contact will be made with us we must evolve to a point where we can differ in philosophy without killing one another for our beliefs. We are nearly there, in the bigger scheme of things, but not there yet.

GFL representatives have been interacting with our leaders since mankind was injected into this planet. These leaders have thus enjoyed semi-godlike status in the past, but now that our understanding has matured a bit we see that technology is NOT magic, and our leaders are certainly not gods. In fact, aliens are imperfect as well--a tough concept for most to appreciate fully.

Aside from the recovery of crashed intergalactic personal craft by governments around the globe, ETs have given our leaders examples of their craft to replicate, and they have tried to teach us how to create vessels symbiotic to ourselves. We are frequency-based beings, and their craft appear more like living entities than vehicles we're accustomed to because these craft can interact with us via our unique frequency spectrum which some call an aura, our chakras. Once aboard you will notice aches and pains or other discomforts fading away. The ship itself knows how you need to be "tuned" in order for you to be comfortable. Our leaders still can't replicate this in our back-engineering of their craft--yet.

Intrinsic in every craft is a sort of liquid memory film applied to and within everything in the craft. To the eye it seems like the colorful sheen of oil on water being illuminated by sunlight. The metals and metal-like fabrics of these ships contains actual micro processing capability interfaced with this liquid memory substance applied in a process similar to what you see happening via the Hutchison Effect, only different. Metallurgy will undergo a quantum evolution once we learn to infuse various kinds of non-metallic substances right into the metals without using heat. Our so-called leaders may already have a clue; ETs are imparting info to them all the time.

BACK TO WHY THEY HAVEN'T LANDED YET--

Once we learn to accept others who don't look or think the way we do in sufficient proportion, they will land. We are going to see a steady increase of their craft in our skies until no one can deny that they are here. The next step is to discuss openly the FACT that they're here in a way that doesn't cause panic, doesn't create hostility and is scientifically neutral. Baby steps are happening now, and many of us (myself included) have been approached by ETs.

I have met a very tall (7 foot) reptilian who was utterly indifferent to my presence, two short (3 1/2 foot) grays, a Sirian (who looks like a normal human from earth) and an ancient female who looked human with long, silvery hair and features reminiscent of a skeleton with very little muscle and skin tightly stretched over the bone. She took my wife and me off-planet for a "purification" ceremony involving a strange blue liquid infusion of some sort on a planet I was told was similar to (mine) but with two moons and crystalline structures. Very cool place! Very spartan decor...almost none. The furniture was similar to our own, but not glued, bolted, stapled or anything...just smooth and soft. The different materials were blended seamlessly.

Yetis are highly-evolved trans-dimensional light beings who come and go into and out of our 3-D reality at will. If you ever see a yeti it is for one of two reasons...either you are prepared sufficiently in your evolution to interact with them or the yetti is trying to offer a clue as to the fact that they exist. They are the beings who mother Earth herself has formed;  true natives of this planet completely in tune with her.

Whenever possible without drawing unwanted attention ETs can and do mitigate harmful radiation, can repair and do repair our ozone and ionosphere, and they can energize certain crystalline energy fields within and around our planet to mitigate earthquakes and other magnetic anomalies from destroying mankind as mankind threatens the planet with explosions, war and toxins. They are always behind the scenes cleaning up after stupid humans on behalf of our planet, as well as us.

Again, the more we learn to respect one another, clean up after ourselves and reach out to the cosmos the more likely we'll be to have our grand interaction en mass. Each of us can help move this process along. I'm doing my part...are you?

Peace and Love,
JD

[Edward]

So, there is some order or collective understanding or CONTROL undiscerned at work here, folks. Can't be otherwise.

Yeah, something is going on and the more I think about it the more I feel we are all in a "bad" situation on so many levels and we all need to really come together and make changes in our personal lives and collectively.


Edward

[Eighthman]

Thank you, Pimander.

This is the critical point that frustrates me about ETs - you get all these folks talking about wars or conflicts between alien races (Reptilians come up a lot, we just don't like scales I guess) but I don't see it.

First, if they have telepathy/some expanded consciousness, that sort of conflict would be nearly impossible (an intensified version of Bill Clinton's remark, "I feel your pain" but yeah, REALLY!).

Second, there MUST be some sort of command or control that prevents Full Disclosure from happening, as discussed.

AS for Valient Thor, the whole story sounded so crazy, I never gave it any credence.  But.... this sort of situation might hide a lot of conspiracies ("that sounds just crazy, so it must be false").

Example: I know a guy who does technical consultant work for the government, frequently. He has an incredible memory and skills.  He will tell you astounding stories about high security stuff BUT ALSO tell you stuff that is not credible and ridiculous.  I do believe THAT THIS IS A DELIBERATE TECHNIQUE of self protection practised by high security people ( like Gordon Duff, for example).

[The Matrix Traveller]

Q.      WHAT Controls ?

A.       LIFE !

You are experiencing what Your LIFE is presenting to you.

The "Understanding" Lays in the Recognition, between "flesh" (The Experience) and what is experiencing
both the "flesh" and it's Environment it is Interacting with.

It is your LIFE which has both "presented" your experience, and is Experiencing that.


When this is Understood, then we will move forward !

Until then, just another day at the Office I guess... 

[Edward]

OH and anyone who says this is the TR3-B gets a free 2 week ban

Looks to me as some part of the Aurora Program IMHO.  But that's just me. 

Edward

[Eighthman]

Oh, and two other points:

The DNA thing is absolutely true.  Years ago, Celera did the genome thing and concluded that DNA is NOT a blueprint, just 'guideposts'.  So, you could have lots of DNA that appears human but really isn't.  In addition, I would point out a recent TED lecture in which a scientist asserted that DNA/RNA in human mucus cavities was surprizingly different, unexpected and unexplained relative to the person. 

AS for New Age 2012 Ascension types, I wonder...... if they sincerely get psychic messages, could they be like a group of broken radios?  They suffer from distortion and static but maybe...... taken collectively, they could be correct - such as, there is a Cabal,  there are things such as 'Archons',  we need to get our act together before Disclosure happens, etc. 

What would an Extraterrestrial viewpoint be like, looking down at the earth?  Would it appear as the channelers generally present it to be?

Maybe, yes.

[Edward]

Oh, and two other points:

The DNA thing is absolutely true.  Years ago, Celera did the genome thing and concluded that DNA is NOT a blueprint, just 'guideposts'.  So, you could have lots of DNA that appears human but really isn't.  In addition, I would point out a recent TED lecture in which a scientist asserted that DNA/RNA in human mucus cavities was surprizingly different, unexpected and unexplained relative to the person. 

AS for New Age 2012 Ascension types, I wonder...... if they sincerely get psychic messages, could they be like a group of broken radios?  They suffer from distortion and static but maybe...... taken collectively, they could be correct - such as, there is a Cabal,  there are things such as 'Archons',  we need to get our act together before Disclosure happens, etc. 

What would an Extraterrestrial viewpoint be like, looking down at the earth?  Would it appear as the channelers generally present it to be?

Maybe, yes.

Also some of the "channelling" may not be coming from what those people think it's coming from.  As above so below right?  So who's to say some entity/being is not misleading someone to fit their own adjenda.


Edward

[Eighthman]

No offense, Matrix Traveller but I think we must avoid explanations that fall into the solipsism category.

Even if our reality is a movie projected onto our retinas (and senses), as long as it appears to be a shared experience, we search for answers.

OTOH, if all of you are just part of my experience (as the sole genuine reality), I'd like to know when do I 'wake up' and do something More Fun.