Extraterrestrials: What Are They Waiting For?

[Eighthman]

Well,  the predictions of channelers have interested me because of this enormous sense of Impending, Sudden Change that I have been feeling over the past year.  It is extremely frustrating.

Bashar Assad gets shot every week.  The Euro endures all challenges, no matter how extreme and continues to hang by the thinnest of threads, interminably.  An Amazing, World-Changing Breakthrough happens in stem cells, energy, UFO uncoverage, blatant exposure of record setting fraud and more almost daily.

And then nothing happens.  I feel like a soldier on the battlefield who fluffs up a makeshift pillow to take a nap in a shallow foxhole while machine gun bullets flow overhead.  It's almost enough to make me believe that there is a Matrix.  Sometimes, reality doesn't look very real.

[sky otter]

this enormous sense of Impending, Sudden Change that I have been feeling over the past year.

with you on that one...watching the sky more and only seeing the smoke screen from the planes


i want to address the channeling thing..
somewhere in my many excursioins of learning i had a teacher who said that if and when you got info or heard a voice in your head (meditation - rv, etc) that wasn't yours to ask who/what  it was and because of the laws governing this current third rock who/what had to respond in truth..
if that who / what went silent it told you something..

i don't know if this teacher made it up or what..but it has stood me in good stead along the way..so far
but i feel a change in the force and i think things they are a changing..

just my two and a half cents

[Pimander]

Well,  the predictions of channelers have interested me because of this enormous sense of Impending, Sudden Change that I have been feeling over the past year.  It is extremely frustrating very real.

That is also something that cults or new religions try to cultvate.  If you have a sense of impending doom you can offer your beleif system as the way out.   The aliens will land, or Jesus will return or we can all jump of the passing space ship (comet).

So you convince the population group who are your target by saying what they want to hear and also suggesting that there is a problem that is looming.  You then offer them solutions and something that they need from the cult and people buy into it.  It helps if you can stage some stuff, like UFO sightings or pics of aliiens as back up.  Remember that TV transmission in the UK?

[Edward]

Precisely   The mediums can be channeling LOKI for all they know. Considering that so far all the promised appearances given to channelers have been no shows. and have made the channelers look like fools, seems to me the info is NOT coming from our 'galactic brothers and sisters' but some trickster having a good laugh at our expense 

That is a much quoted phrase... what does it mean?

It means as in the microcosm so it is in the macrocosm. 

Oh I also might add,  some of the channellings could be earth bound humans doing such things as well.


My take on it all is that there are some "channels" that carry a sincere and postive messages. While others I think are there to purposely misdirect and keep people away from accomplishing anything.  But that in itself does have some rewards.   In that hopefully eventually people will start to be able to recognize that(those misdirections) and learn to be more proactive.


Edward

[Amaterasu]

If all these aliens people have claimed are running all over this planet, in secret meetings with governments, abducting people for experiments and just appearing to enlightened chosen ones are real, then getting ONE MEASLY sample of alien DNA should be a piece of cake...


There are THOUSANDS of UFO "investigators" out there. Entire teams of UFO crash recovery teams that have symposiums.  Yet NOT ONE of these hunters have been able to show us a scrap of alien metal or a trace of alien DNA not even a shed skin cell.

Forensics have come a long way these days. We have scientists pulling DNA out of extinct animal fossils in the process of doing a real Jurassic Park scenario

In all these years since Roswell not one tiny fragment of supposedly over a hundred saucer crashes has yielded one tiny scrap.

Seems to Me that the Star Child has been shown to have DNA that is not Human...  I'm sure there's a link somewhere here.

[Eighthman]

But this intense sense of the impending is not mere gloom and doom - far from it.

I want to witness the complete end of the Cabal, the TBTJ Banks, North Korea, Israel as excluding Palestine, the Big Drug companies that waste human effort to allieviate suffering, and the Military-Industrial Complex.

[Amaterasu]

Nicely said and I agree with you.  Also have to fix money as we currently use it(mis-use it).

Edward

Have You read the work in My section here?  I believe there IS a "fix" for the NEED for exchange (trade, barter, money, etc.) to survive - and to survive richly:

Analysis: http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=657.0
PLAN: http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2759.0
Governance: http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2103.0

I look forward to Your thoughts.

[Pimander]

Who says aliens have DNA at all?  And you aren't allowed to say an alien we also cannot verify existing told us. LOL

Bacterial DNA is the same as human (although human has more chemical modifications that are) and bacteria were not even known to exist until recently...

The Star Child skull is - like so many things - not verifiable so far.  I could try to verify the work or commission someone to do it but they won't hand over the tissue.  A year or two ago I couldn't even get confirmation of how they were testing whether it is human.  I imagine they might be paranoid if they think it is an alien but it struck me as very odd.

The sequence of the DNA will be different in different species is hopefully what they have analysed but in a discovery that big, I'd want more than data before I am convinced.  There is no way to say whether it is alien from the sequence for sure.  We don't have a sequence from "out there" to compare for analogous sequences so the work will only show whether they are likely to be the same species.  We haven't got sequences for many Earth species yet you know.  In fact we have not even studied most species beyond noting they exist.  DNA technology is powerful but there is so much data to collect yet.

Sorry to give the facts but there you have it.

[Amaterasu]

I agree that the Star Child is "dubious..."  Still, it is a lead that might pan out - though I do find it odd that Those who claim the unusual sequence in the DNA are reluctant to offer the materials for independent review...

[Anynonmouses]

You can present proof right in front of a skeptic, who will ALWAYS default to dismissal, if not attempt to change the definition of what constitutes proof. Therefore, nothing is "provable" to those who revel in appearing correct--even in the face of evidence.

Here we have Ammy referring you to the "Starchild" skull, and the fact that DNA results indicate the skull is not human, or is anomalous to science, and then the cadre of nay sayers who just have to be right to the point where evidence is dismissed due to pure prejudice. Enough horse carp!

I KNOW what I know, and from first hand encounters with several extraterrestrials I have in fact met. I won't be discussing the matter further on this forum because some, like Zorgon, have to be right in their preconceived notions, and you just can't tell some people anything; they don't LISTEN. Fine. Why open myself up to ridicule? I'll shut the hell up about my encounters rather than make the powers that be here uncomfortable. Don't ask me anything about it again--I'm done.

As Ammy says when she doesn't feel like arguing...YOU'RE RIGHT.

Case closed.

Peace and Love
JD

[Pimander]

You can present proof right in front of a skeptic, who will ALWAYS default to dismissal, if not attempt to change the definition of what constitutes proof. Therefore, nothing is "provable" to those who revel in appearing correct--even in the face of evidence.

I want proof.  We don't have any yet is what I am saying.

Here we have Ammy referring you to the "Starchild" skull, and the fact that DNA results indicate the skull is not human, or is anomalous to science, and then the cadre of nay sayers who just have to be right to the point where evidence is dismissed due to pure prejudice. Enough horse carp!

It may well not be human.  That does not make it from another planet or dimension.  Basically if it dies not have human DNA then that is evidence that it is noit human (like a chimp or whatever is not human but not alien either)

I KNOW what I know, and from first hand encounters with several extraterrestrials I have in fact met. I won't be discussing the matter further on this forum because some, like Zorgon, have to be right in their preconceived notions, and you just can't tell some people anything; they don't LISTEN. Fine. Why open myself up to ridicule? I'll shut the hell up about my encounters rather than make the powers that be here uncomfortable. Don't ask me anything about it again--I'm done.

I have seen a craft up close too.  I can't prove it though and it isn't proof it was alien.  The reason I want proof, is that it would be the greatest discovery in history to have incontrovertible evidence.  Of course I would love to apply my knowledge to get to the truth.

Every time we dismiss a nonsense claim, we clear the way and remove noise so that if the real deal is available it won't be buried beneath lots of impossible to prove claims.

As Ammy says when she doesn't feel like arguing...YOU'RE RIGHT.

It doesn't have to be a fight.  What I explained is the truth to the best of my knowledge (with a few details missed for clarity).  If something comes along that changes that position then I'll be the first to shout it to the world.

Case closed.

Hardly, but hopefully it's going to happen.

There are different opinions on here and you are going to have to accept it.  The evidence is not proof.  Sorry.  Grown ups can disagree without having a fight.

[zorgon]

Seems to Me that the Star Child has been shown to have DNA that is not Human...  I'm sure there's a link somewhere here.

I do not have any links to the lab results of the star child skull. I would love to see those and an independent study to confirm it

Please take a minute to provide us with those reports so we can analyze the results

Thanks

[The Matrix Traveller]

Well WHERE ARE THE DANG LAB RESULTS?

Maybe they are non-existent ?

Why?  Perhaps one of 2 Reasons.

They never existed in the 1st Place
or
They now no longer exist.

[zorgon]

I agree that the Star Child is "dubious..."  Still, it is a lead that might pan out - though I do find it odd that Those who claim the unusual sequence in the DNA are reluctant to offer the materials for independent review...

This has been my problem with the whole UFO thing. There are all the Star Child things, Indigoes, hybrids, implants, skulls, metal fragments... etc etc etc, We hear them say "This has been tested by a lab so and so.."

Well WHERE ARE THE DANG LAB RESULTS?
And WHY will they not let anyone else test it to verify it?

The UFO in Turkey... they sent the film to a lab and they tested it. LOL All that proved was that the film was real... not what the object was... but it is a great smoke screen to say "We had the film tested in a lab.." 

[Pimander]

Well WHERE ARE THE DANG LAB RESULTS?

The problem is, no matter what the DNA sequencing results are, it is just a sequence.  We don't have an alien DNA sequence characterised to compare it to or even evidence that non-Earth life is DNA based.  It is an assumption that water based life would likely have something resembling DNA.

Unless "they" have some samples hidden away....