New Mars Anomaly

[Sinny]

I do apologies as I've robbed this from ATS:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread939693/pg1

Please follow the link as I am also locked out of Photobucket.

It reminds me of the hypothesised nuclear fission blue hue found on the moon.

Tis causing quite a stir.

(To the admins, I hope a link is sufficient, I'm far from perfect in regards to forum postings)

It could be a photo glitch or something mundane - of course, I've come to the correct place to find out! 

[ArMaP]

It could be a photo glitch or something mundane - of course, I've come to the correct place to find out! 

It's something mundane, a crater.

I don't know why Google has those colours (they never really match the colours from the original photos), but in all the photos I saw it looks like something blown by the wind, like in this photo.

[rdunk]

This is probably NOT a photo glitch!!!

I have two nice screenshots of this anomaly, taken from the Mars Orbiter HRSC camera. It looks pretty much just like the Google shot, except it is not in color.

Because "attachment capability" here is not enabled, I cannot post the screenshots to the thread. However, I can provide  the number for the HRSC photo for look-up by those interested.

Still really cannot tell what this anomaly is, in the actual NASA photo. But it is an oddball.

Maybe someone else here can post shots here, from the photo. You can see it better with magnification.

Here is the HRSC photo number --- HRSC: H4408_0000_ND3

The anomaly is found near the lower left corner of the photo.

[The Matrix Traveller]

Hi rdunk,

Is this the one you want to show ?

[rdunk]

Thanks Matrix Traveler!!! Yes, but no!

The Mars Image Explorer for that Pic brings up 2 images, one black and white, and another image under the heading of "context", which is the one that you posted.

The black and white image is the right one, and it has the HRSC number on top of it. The black and white actually shows the surface detail, such as the posted anomaly.It also is the image that has tool buttons at the bottom for selecting  +, -, and full screen. I think the black and white should be there, where you also got the color image.

Thanks much for your help!!!

[The Matrix Traveller]

Or this One ?

[ArMaP]

These are all the photos I could find of that place.

From Viking.
383B16
383B14
466B41

There are two more from Viking, but the resolution is worse.

From MOC
E0701875
E0800995

THEMIS has several
Daytime infrared
I07501006
I07526007
I09860006
I10172011
I16000002
I16911002
I25809007

From HRSC
H6941_0000_ND3
H4408_0000_ND3

Mars Express has a colour camera (although of a lower resolution than the HRSC), so that's probably from where Google got the colours. I will look for those.

[rdunk]

Yes, thanks so much Matrix T. That is the full actual image. If one magnifies a full screen of that image, then an anomaly just like that in the OP can be seen - in black and white.

Still hard to say what it is, but it does certainly look unnatural. I do wish I could post my screenshots by attachment, so all could see the detail of the anomaly in the HRSC image.

Maybe still, someone else here can do that with your "Photobuckets"!

Again FYI all, the anomaly is the black spot you can see in the crater at the bottom left of the image Matrix Traveler posted for us just above - magnification is needed to really see it good .

[rdunk]

ArMaP, thanks for your research! I have looked through the list of photos you posted, and still, it is only the last image in the list, under HRSC that shows the detail of this anomaly. There is another black area farther up above this anomaly in the image, but is obviously not the OP object.

Again, THANKS!

[ArMaP]

This is the real size of the HRSC image.

Click for full size.



This is the colour version, at a much lower resolution (I think it's 50 metres per pixel instead of 15 for the nadir image above)



PS: as you can see the three images are not exactly aligned, as they are slightly different (the satellite keeps moving) and these images are not geometrically corrected.

[rdunk]

Thanks again ArMaP! This is the OP image I have the screenshots on.

So, now what is the thinking on this? Of course, it is anybody's guess, even to whether it is natural or anomalous.

It does seem to have specific form, seems at least partially hollow, and looks somewhat cylindrical.

Ah ha! It must be a STARGATE!!! 

 

[ArMaP]

Thanks again ArMaP! This is the OP image I have the screenshots on.

Yes, it looks like Google uses an exaggerated (as usual) version of the colours from Mars Express photos.

So, now what is the thinking on this? Of course, it is anybody's guess, even to whether it is natural or anomalous.

The higher resolution photos make it look like one of those (supposedly) water/CO2 frozen deposits. That would also explain what looks like wind spread material (the darker "tail"), as the current explanation for those is that, when the CO2 melts, the water below it evaporates and the ground is uncovered.

The way it looks reminds me of a Mars Express photo that zorgon uses as an example of water on Mars, as it supposedly shows a large water ice deposit inside a crater.

[zorgon]

Yes that would be THIS one:

Taken by the ESA...

Water Ice Crater in Martian North Pole

8 July 2005

These images, taken by the High Resolution Stereo Camera (HRSC) on board ESA's Mars Express spacecraft, show a patch of water ice sitting on the floor of an unnamed crater near the Martian north pole.


Map showing crater in context

The HRSC obtained these images during orbit 1343 with a ground resolution of approximately 15 metres per pixel. The unnamed impact crater is located on Vastitas Borealis, a broad plain that covers much of Mars's far northern latitudes, at approximately 70.5° North and 103° East.

The crater is 35 kilometres wide and has a maximum depth of approximately 2 kilometres beneath the crater rim. The circular patch of bright material located at the centre of the crater is residual water ice.

Here is the Full Size... you can see the FISH

[ArMaP]

That's the one.

Funny thing, it's at the same latitude as the other crater, only in the north instead of the south hemisphere.

[rdunk]

ArMaP, for some reason, your pics do not look exactly like my direct screenshots.

Actually my screenshots are pretty much the same as what the Google image shows. At least as far as the anomaly itself, the object does not look like a little pile of ice. Yes, I saw that the ATS comments were also mentioning same as you, but over there, the last tme I looked they had not even noted the actual HRSC photo.

Link to the HRSC photo: http://viewer.mars.asu.edu/planetview/inst/hrsc/H4408_0000_ND3#start

I may need to go over there to post my screenshots (no, I haven't been banned -  )

You may go here to see my screenshots of the anomaly:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread939693/pg3#pid16234194