Real World Probabilities of Extraterrestrials on Earth

[Anthra]

Hey yall,

This is a part of a wee project I've got going, and I thought I'd post it het and see what yall's thoughts, feelings, etc are.

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Traditional science has two opposing theories on Extraterrestrial life. There is the "Drake" side, which tells us that there could be thousands to 10's of thousands of advanced species just in the Milky Way. And, its competition; the Fermi Paradox which questions; "where they all are".

Urban (pseudo) Exoscience tells us that there are several different species of Extraterrestrial. The reality of ET lies somewhere in between, somewhere where real science lives.

If you ask ET, however, you might get a real answer. As it turns out; currently on Eath there are six (6) different Human species, each originating on a different world.
1.       Earth                         Terrestrial Human
2.       Sirian                        Sirian Human (Nordic)
3.       Lambda Aurigae      Lambda Aurigae Human (Tall White)
4.       Pleiadian                  Pleiadian Human
5.       Andromedan            Andromeda Human
6.       Tau Ceti                   Tau Ceti Human

Probabilities

This really is a very simple exercise in probability.

There are six (6) different species of Human; thus any Human has a 0.16666 probability of being any specific species. This value doesn't really mean much on any being's Home World, but IF we are talking about a place like Earth, one that does not have open relations with the others, then I don't think we can expect to see more than one of each on Earth at any given moment, and almost certainly over even a moderate time the average will not be more than one.

So, the probability of an extraterrestrial being on Earth is: 7.14285e-10.  (ODDS: 5 in 7 billion)

[ArMaP]

As it turns out; currently on Eath there are six (6) different Human species, each originating on a different world.

And you base this on what?

[Anthra]

And you base this on what?

Urban Exoscience    The rumors and conjecture that there are atleast that many "human" species visiting, and the fact that there are more than enough 4.6+ Gyr old "G" class stars within 30 ly to support the hypothesis .

[The Matrix Traveller]

According to ancient writings, (NOT me) in this case "The Books of E'NOCH" Quote;

And the angels,

The word Angel used in the translation is Incorrect... As an Angel is NOT of "Terrestrial" origin !

the children of the heavens, saw and lusted after them,

"The Children of the heavens", were and are Aliens !

and said to one another: "Come, let us chose us wives
from among the children of men and beget us children."
   
03.  And Semjaza, who was  their leader, said unto them:

"I fear ye will not indeed agree to do this deed,
and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin."

04.   And they all answered him and said:

"Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations
not to abandon this plan but to do this thing."

05.   Then sware they all together and bound themselves together
by mutual imprecations upon it.

06.   And they were in all two hundred;
who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon,

and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn
and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it.

07.   And these are the names of their leaders:

Semiazaz, their leader,
Arakiba,
Rameel,
Kokabiel,
Tamiel,
Ramiel,
Danel,
Ezeqeel,
Baraqijal,
Asael,
Armaros,
Batarel,
Ananel,
Zaqiel,
Samsapeel,
Satarel,
Turel,
Jomael,
Sariel.

08. These are their chiefs of tens.

So according to these writings....  at least 20 Species came to the Earth and copulated
with the Woman of the Earth !

20 different "Alien Species", each having 10 beings !

Perhaps this is where these 20 different Species produced our different races seen on Earth today.

So we are All "half bead aliens" anyway..    Part "Alien" & Part human !

[Anthra]

I really do not think that they are refering t 2 different species there. What Enoch is referring to is the colonization of Earth by Sirius / Orion. There are at most 2 - 3 species involved.

Taking into account all of the "G" class stars within 50 ly, there doesn't seem to be enough to support many more than 10 different species that would be advanced enough to visit Earth.

[The Matrix Traveller]

I really do not think that they are refering t 2 different species there. What Enoch is referring to is the colonization of Earth by Sirius / Orion. There are at most 2 - 3 species involved.

Indeed.... I Quoted 20 "Species" and NOT 2.... as you stated.

Each of the 20 Species were Represented by 10   

[Anthra]

Indeed.... I Quoted 20 "Species" and NOT 2.... as you stated.

Each of the 20 Species were Represented by 10   

Yeah, sorry; wolf fur in keyboard. ment to type 20. My point is there are not enough stars to suport 20 human species within 50 ly. (We need to limit distance from Earth due to travel constraints).

[The Matrix Traveller]

My point is there are not enough stars to suport 20 human species within 50 ly. (We need to limit distance from Earth due to travel constraints).

But this (the Constraints) is based solely on human interpretation...   

Facing facts we know very, very little about our selves, or the Environment etc. etc.

Hell how many even know HOW all is being manifested, re. the "Processing System"
(Nothing like our Computer Systems) presenting such.

Most on Earth believe we exist in a multi dimensional universe.

This is only what we Interpret via. the brain and believe to be.

But is this, what exists outside the environment of the brains "Processing System" as well,
or is it something entirely different, being decoded via the brain, through or involving another "Processing System" ?

Perhaps behaving like a very sophisticated multiplayer "1st Person Video game" ?     in/of the Mind.

[deuem]

10 might be 2 light vs the sons of 12 went out to populate the Earth? Just day dreaming here..

wolf fur in keyboard

Ok, never heard that one before. An original for sure!

[andolin]

So ET told you that there were 6 different human species originating on a different world ??
And "Urban Exoscience"..Really...
Ok, I'll bite...Which ET told you this (personally), and please feel free to provide some clarity with your terms...I assume that Exoscience still means the "Study of all things unearthly"..or something thereabouts..But you lost me at "Urban Exoscience"..
And MT, As for Enoch and Angels are concerned..Are you referencing 1 Enoch here..I agree angels were probably allegorical...Fascinating book....Enoch lived 365 years before being "Taken by God" There are many astronomical references in there and I find it fascinating that both Enoch and the Mayans (Not to mention many others) have the 365 (Numerical) references....Carry on all and Happy Cinco De Mayo..
Oh and there is also a thread on the Forum regarding Enoch....
See thread here:
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2105.msg28970#msg28970
Andy

[Anthra]

But this (the Constraints) is based solely on human interpretation...   

Facing facts we know very, very little about our selves, or the Environment etc. etc.

Yes, Human understanding on the constraints, but then thats all we have.

And, Facts we know very little about ... Here is a FACT:
"G" class stars are caable of supporting life as it is understood now on Earth. "G" class stars that are at least 4.6 Gyr (billion years) old can support advanced, space faring life.

Yes many would try to talk about the various different dimenstions, most have no idea what they are talking about. For instance; when we talk of multiple diension, are we talking about an actual "dimension" or a "plane"? I'll leave this here fo your thought.

[Anthra]

10 might be 2 light vs the sons of 12 went out to populate the Earth? Just day dreaming here..
  Ok, never heard that one before. An original for sure!

Wolf fur in keyboard ... a most interesting and strange set of events ... well perhaps not really ...

Wolf Fur ... http:wolf.wolfmagick.com  this will assist in understanding. (specifically Tanka ... the black one).

Problem is that it seems to collect under the key tops and prevents full travel of the switch components, resulting in; "no key press".

[andolin]

Quoting Anthra who is also quoting...a statement of "Fact".
"G" class stars are caable of supporting life as it is understood now on Earth. "G" class stars that are at least 4.6 Gyr (billion years) old can support advanced, space faring life."

Key word here is "support"... Space fairing ET (If we assume that they are capable of faster than light traver and/or some other alternative method of traversing Galaxies/universes. Inter-dimensional travel, wormhole, Stargate {Heavens forbid} etc.) would be able to hop to G class systems and establish colonies...So life does not necessarily have to take billions of years to develop on Terra like planets..With a little ET assist, humanoid like lifeforms can establish colonies/bases and supplant, uproot, or even ENHANCE and existing/developing life forms..I think that's what's going on in Enochs tale anyway.
Andy

[Anthra]

So ET told you that there were 6 different human species originating on a different world ??
And "Urban Exoscience"..Really...
Ok, I'll bite...Which ET told you this (personally), and please feel free to provide some clarity with your terms...I assume that Exoscience still means the "Study of all things unearthly"..or something thereabouts..But you lost me at "Urban Exoscience"..

No ET did not tell me that. Reality and a wee bit of logic can go a very long way.

Urban Exoscience: pretty much what you might think; the study (?)/(mis)understanding of things external. Actually, we can determine quite a lot, in a more general sense, from urban myth and legend, and yes, "Urban Exoscience" is the using of this sort of "bullCrap" as viable data. It is the employment of the Terrestrial Collective Consciousness, a data source all y'all continue to overlook. Perhaps we shuld call this "novel data"? (don't scoff: novel science and physics has already provided "field drives" and artificial gravity). So, the whole idea of "novel" something (in this context) is well established and very workable.

[andolin]

Thanks for the clarification.
I like to base my thoughts/statements/research on reality also..
When I see terminology that I don't understand and/or can't find a clear definition of, I ask for clarification.
I understand Exoscience, Exopolitocs, and all the other "Exo" prefaced terminology.
You just threw me with "Urban"...So you are saying that by "Urbanizing" Exoscience, we are localizing it to our Planet..
Ok gotcha now..

Andy