First PEGASUS EXPERIMENT

[robomont]

[ArMaP]

I see you have a helper, it should go faster. 

[robomont]

clemendon.this guy came up with the idea of the thing.theres a bnch of books on it.found some on the living moon sight too.mercury vortex generator.nothing on how well the thing worked.

but we fixing to find out.will attempt to get welded up tomorrow.
about five hours worth of bending them spread over a week.if i had had a comealong and two straps i may have been able to do a more perfect coils but these are pretty darn close.im still thinking of the best place to put a vacuum port and of what metals.i thinking of mounting it on top with a ac freon tap.maybe crimp it before test.i havent decided.i may see if they have steal ones.its more about the heat melting the silver and copper at the tap.maybe a steel tap line that can be crimped and soldered.just thinking out loud.

im saging my notes on here sorta for future reference

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

You should maybe put the tap line at the bottom, or outer edge of the coil away from the heat, also use 'silver solder' which is much harder to melt.

Just thinking out loud too.

You should meet my older brother, he made a variety of simple metalworking tools like pipe benders etc...

Success, mon Capitain
At least you are doing something, even if you are definitely of the 'tinkerer' variety of inventor (read the green threads in the i.f.) but i commend your commitment & your courage

Go, team Puffy!

[stealthyaroura]

you gonna dab it with the mig or TIG it Robo?
Hmmm the tap, avoid brass,go for a ball type valve tap. mild steel under that chrome?
thinking about the weld. the heat will melt solder and brazing rods so tig or mig it?

[robomont]

yea i was gonna check silver melting point on wiki.the highest ionization temp of mercury is 100°k below the melting point of steel so i am going to be cautious.i hope i dont have to go to that level.there are three levels of ionization.maybe the first two levels will do it.my only real worry is oxygen in the form of rust on the inside of the main collunm.i hope it doesnt break free of it bond and expand much.i dont know if mercury expands in the ionization/plasma state.i know the volume in the gas state.

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

I'm not sure if further expansion happens in the ionised state, but the pressure could build up fast, hope you have a 200psi blowout valve lying around.....
Have to sleep now, long day tomorrow...
Later, guys n gals

[ArMaP]

I remember using silver solder (is that right word?), and if I did it means the melting point is not that high, as I never used any special equipment, just one of those cheap, hand-held torches with a small gas can.

[robomont]

thanks pwm.

silver is about half of steels temp.those cheap torch tips put alot of heat on one spot.gonna ask around tomorrow.

[stealthyaroura]

I remember using silver solder (is that right word?), and if I did it means the melting point is not that high, as I never used any special equipment, just one of those cheap, hand-held torches with a small gas can.

yes ArMaP that is correct, there are different types though for instance the stuff used in jewelry
making is pretty low temp as opposed to the more industrial type.
may as well brass braze it. if it's not going to get that hot,just to be on the safe side.

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Hey Robo
The hardest grade of silver solder melts at about 1423 degrees f
Bless
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[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Hey Robo
The hardest grade of silver solder melts at about 1423 degrees f
Bless
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Yep that's the one, have to heat steel to cherry red to melt it, it sticks just about any metals together, like brass onto steel etc.
Very useful

[robomont]

hmm?
well heres what i thought of.steel brake line.soldered to colunm .then copper soldered to steel.vacuum pulled then heat steel line and hammer flat while hot .thus welding / forging sealed.then cut off copper connection.i will not be done this friday so dont get hopes up just yet.but will be very close.

[robomont]

got it started today.got the coil welded onto the colunm

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Hey not bad

A double helix of dissimilar metals?

I'm intruiged... .....

ETA; Gold for effort.
It does look like an egg whisk though...
Is that intentional?

Go team Puffy