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First PEGASUS EXPERIMENT

Started by robomont, May 09, 2013, 03:32:24 AM

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PLAYSWITHMACHINES

#210
Right, i remember.
Only Elvis is not in the I.G. :D
must have been one of us...

Yes i have learned from the Transfusor project that incredible amounts of current can flow in a plasma, millions of amps.
And we know that 'current' or electron movement, is what creates a mag field.

'pressure' is arbitrary, originally in a (near) vacuum, once it gets compressed in the middle of the tube, pressure in the middle can easily exceed 1000's of PSI, and still exert no pressure on the tube wall.

Hope that explains it, as you know we are all flying rather blind at this point until we get some test models running.

Carry on, brave tinkerers ;D

Sorry Seeker, i seem to have run over your post, here it is again ;)

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Pimander

Quote from: robomont on March 01, 2014, 02:01:35 AM
Really ?the mercury turned red? not
Misread your post.  YOu didn't say what was red so I thought you meant the mercury.

robomont

Yep .red hot on bottom and at top was cool to touch.gotta get a torch i guess.more heat maybe.
My focus is on the pwm saucer project and lifter stuff right now.gonna try a different magnetic setup with high voltage.
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

COSMO

Here's a novel way to generate mercury rotation.  Looks similar to a Faraday motor with a magnet and a little current.  I like the fact there are no moving parts. 

Tell me if I am wrong, but conversely, wouldn't rotation of the mercury in a magnetic field generate current, just like a Faraday generator? 



Cosmo
And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?

PLAYSWITHMACHINES

Exactly, no moving parts, like all the best machines :)

A plasma is a perfect conductor, think of a ring of plasma as a single-turn transformer carrying 10,000 amps at 1000 volts.
Yes, 10 Giga Watts, and you will be sitting in the middle of it :o

Pimander

These are the kinds of energies I felt when I saw a craft.  Massive charges caused by a powerful EM field is what I remember as we got nearer.

PLAYSWITHMACHINES

#216
Sure, such a really high density field would be felt i'm sure of it.

I will gladly be the guinea-pig in this case, i'm kind of used to fields around me & i seem quite insensitive to them, i am thinking that a LF oscillation near the brain's Alpha waves would be very definitely 'felt' in some way.

We may need some faraday-type shielding on the inner side of the ring, i hope not as it is extra weight.. ::)
:D

oops sorry wrong thread, hard to keep track these days... ;)

No, we are not designing a saucer... LOL ::)

Pimander

I have had an idea regarding that.  Why not have 2 or even 3 rings so that the craft does not need to be inside the ring?  3 would be your old fashioned triangle craft interestingly enough. :)

PLAYSWITHMACHINES

Well i still think that in the centre of the field would be safest especially with regards to inertia issues, but hey i hate triangles.

Why build a HV device like a Lifter, and then give it 3 sharp points?
That's why i designed a round one, LOL

robomont

Agreed.if your after corona.the more current.the more corona.the more corona the more wind.as long as the negative radius is bigger than the positive radius .as far as hv goes.a sharp point just takes the least amount of current and voltage to get started.lifter designs perpetuate alot of myths.to confuse the masses.

On the mercury issue.we are striving for it as a plasma.mercury in its solid form will not get the results were looking for.or as its called a mercury arc lamp.its the ionization at hv that will make for high performance.easily reaching voltages that are very difficult to build by other means due to the weight.ie hv transformer to hv diodes.close to a thousand lbs.and barely any current.
This ring could have multi voltage taps off of it.to stagger outputs.because its so difficult to create multiple voltages dc and keep the weight down.whereas this plasma tube can do that for way less weight.
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

PLAYSWITHMACHINES

#220
Well as you know, i am persuing several 'plasma' & 'field' issues right now, in the I.G. area, but i will say this;

Keep doing what you are doing, we will of course offer all our help to this and any other project that peeps want to try out, i am all for that.

If it fails, it fails, and we have all seen it...

If a success,well, i guess it will go 'black'......LOL

Oops, sorry guys.... ;D

ETA: in fact just look around you, any project that actually made it, went & dissappeared! :P LOL

ArMaP

I may be saying a huge nonsense (I don't even know if that sentence makes sense, I know how to say in Portuguese but I can't think of a good translation), but what if we had the electric part of a mercury vapour lamp inside the tube, to use as a "starter"?

robomont

Yes armap.it would need something like that.
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

robomont

My next plan is to cut the top off the apparatus and install a insulator plug with a point for a charge collector.some kind of ceramic that threads in that has a hole for a wire point.
Any ideas.basically a insulator that will also seal.im guessing a rubber stopper may work since its in a vacuum and the heat is not getting to the top.i think i have one of those.hmm?
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

PLAYSWITHMACHINES

How about a spark plug with the 'earth' electrode cut off?

I'm thinking if you did that at each end (or even one end if the other end is 'earth') and you would have a circuit.
Simple enough for the ancients to have built ;)

ETA; use a platinum electrode type plug, platinum should not react with the mercury....