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Started by Ellirium113, May 28, 2013, 06:36:12 PM

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zorgon

Quote from: Somamech on May 28, 2013, 09:34:08 PM
And I am not too sure why people worry about China, they have their own demons to worry about, which are huge as in HUGE :D

Back in WWII The Japanese did not treat China well...

When the tides turned against Japan... China could have wiped them out and we would have supported them :P

I don't think China has any interest in world domination :D

zorgon

Off Topic for a second to make a point...

Quote from: 1Worldwatcher on May 28, 2013, 08:19:33 PMError after error page notifications. really is sad when they can't even admit to the fact of the matters.

What is REALLY SAD is supposed researchers that are TOO LAZY to use google search to seek updates

For instance... in THIS case

Simply put this in google search  "NAVY electrodynamic tether"

And you will find that they launched one recently 

QuoteThe Naval Research Laboratory's Tether Electrodynamics Propulsion CubeSat Experiment (TEPCE) underwent successful deployment tests on March 19 and March 23, 2010.
Figure 1: TEPCE integrated prior to deployment test.

TEPCE is a tethered spacecraft being built by NRL to demonstrate electrodynamic propulsion in space. Electrodynamic propulsion holds the promise of limitless propulsion for maneuvering spacecraft without using expendable fuel. The spacecraft, in its orbital configuration, will consist of two CubeSat end masses attached to the end of 1 kilometer of electrically conducting tether

http://www.nrl.navy.mil/media/news-releases/2010/nrls-tepce-spacecraft-undergoes-successful-deployment-test

See? Still public domain... you just need to know WHAT to ask and WHERE to look

::)

petrus4

America is currently in the process of committing national suicide.  Where that is relevant to this article, is in the fact that China's ascendancy at this point is inevitable, at least as far as America is concerned; which renders the Chinese stealing American weapon designs, essentially moot.

Americans should be a lot more concerned about their own country's problems.  A very good place to start, would be for the public to demand the military to take action against the current government, rather than continuing to show blind gratitude towards said military for invading other countries, and killing people who have nothing whatsoever to do with the country's current internal crisis, which in fact only serves to make said crisis worse.

If you want a truly legitimate reason to celebrate Memorial Day and show gratitude to the troops, then let them assault Washington, rather than Kabul or Baghdad.  I have said it before, and I will say it over, and over, and over again, as many times as it needs to be said.

The threat is not now, and has never been foreign.  It is, and always has been, entirely domestic.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

rdunk

#18
Z could be very right about how this info got into the hands of China! But, IMO, everything related to major design secret/BLACK stuff has no business being wired to any type of connection that goes outside brick and mortar. Nor should it be wired to anything inside that goes outside brick and mortar.

Just dealing with human hands, eyes, and ears to maintain high level security requirements is difficult enough in the world of Black. But, when connections to it in some way are made to the outside, even with encryption, nothing is safe to the absolute.  There is no access available to "outside hackers", when there is no electronic way into the data.

Nothing wrong with designing and maintaining designs with huge high performance computer data and manufacturing systems, but these just should not be accessible from the outside.

No connection, no hacking!!

P.S. - - Why is it that the National Security systems and operations of this country seems to be just as "dumbed down", as  so much of the many other primary responsibilities taken on and assumed by the Federal Government. There are a lot of hands involved in the workings of National Security, but in the end, it is the responsibility of the Federal Government through procedures/regulations/continual security checks, etc, etc, that ensures the "lock-down" of every piece of classified data, to every level required.   

Now to say we are losing complete systems designs of major weapons systems..................if they are going to release such loses, then "major heads should roll" (so to speak), for all of those responsible. That is where the example should be made!!

Of course, we should have a way to follow and find the lost data, and either electronically destroy it, or "however", to ensure it can never be used against this nation. This is not petty theft, and it should be dealt with as a major direct offense as is necessary!!!

Ellirium113

Quote from: zorgon on May 28, 2013, 09:23:26 PM
You all here believe the government can keep all secrets from leaking about Aliens and UFO's yet at the same time you think that top military secrets are just lying around carelessly

Does that make sense?

The most plausible circumstance is that this was a deliberate leak. Also if China wanted to attack the USA, they had the best opportunity under Mao... when everyone in China was under the gun and they had all those nukes. 

There you go making sense again...Zorgon, you ought to be a superhero.  ;)



So if this tech was deliberately leaked then I am thinking there is already a suitable advanced replacement. This also would give them more cause for their internet control bills in the form of a false flag.

robomont

@rdunk.
you dont see the sport model plans or the tr3b designs in chinas hands.
the new fighter f22 f35 planes are junk.anybody who thinks those planes will secure the us skies is lieing to theirselves.
this is done to drain chinese resources.we have a whole fleet of ufos.they are on standby.the company that manufactured them has since dispersed the guts of the manufactering and closed up shop on them.there is now no proof they even exist.
this is all being staged to look like we are weak.to draw our enemies in.we have moved all our defenses to the center of the country.with drone bases stationed around the border of the country.this is all prep for the big one.all under the view of being weak and incompetant.
notice the military isnt restocking our tanks and heavy gear.our national guard has almost no equipment in their yards.
its all smoke and mirrors.
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

zorgon

Quote from: Ellirium113 on May 28, 2013, 11:12:50 PM
There you go making sense again...Zorgon, you ought to be a superhero.  ;)

Hehe  well thing is even if the stuff wasn't on electronic media there are always the old school spies that copy papers :P Afterall wasn't that the main stay of MI-5, KGB and CIA?  spooks out spooking each other to steal anything and everything...

And yet even those old fashioned spies never got us any UFO/Alien secrets :D

Hey someone just sent me this!!!  Too bad it didn't come with free Coke :P


zorgon


robomont

is that you deum.arent you near china?

then of course zorgon is russian blood.

so is this a commie site?

big red flag with zorgon on it.
its all coming together now.
im so a conspiracy theorist.
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

LSWONE

Quote from: zorgon on May 29, 2013, 10:23:55 AM
Chinese Cyber Squad



LOL!
I think my kids play that same game! I knew a few guys that would dress up to play PC games. This totally reminds me of that.

As to the topic, I think it is highly unlikely anything good is kept on any TCs on the floor and a section of the LAN reachable to outside.

Somamech

Quote from: zorgon on May 28, 2013, 10:05:08 PM
Back in WWII The Japanese did not treat China well...

When the tides turned against Japan... China could have wiped them out and we would have supported them :P

I don't think China has any interest in world domination :D

True that, and why I get so sick of hearing Jewish story's as the only point of suffering in WW2.  The Chinese have a story which is just as good :(

No I wouldn't think at all that China have a Big Map in Mission Control that includes territory's not in their control whatsoever  ;)

I also listened to a very good interview on ABC last night with an author who has just released a book about Russia and the lack of faith in Putin these day's.  The Author made a very good point in that Russia had the best 19th century economy in a 20th century world.  China is no different in those regard's, and what their manufacturing hub is now producing, may not be so in another ten year's, and could you imagine having over a Billion folke's pissed at you as a leader in that country ? :D

If for example the west collape's further than it already has, it still has Mil, and people still have a desire in an environment that most of the world envy's.  I think the West is becoming a little more Enterprising when it comes to the individual and how to act, and one example would be how I can see I could undercut in price but not quality on some item's I have in mind.  The Caveat is that I don't have world domination in mind.  Having worked in the proto industry for many a year that is usually every company's downfall... They all want to be BAAL :D










Somamech

LS you have 7 gold now

Good Grief man I feel like I am mining the stuff for you alone at some times :D

LSWONE

Quote from: Somamech on May 29, 2013, 07:48:43 PM
LS you have 7 gold now

Good Grief man I feel like I am mining the stuff for you alone at some times :D

Can I trade those in for Zorgon plush dolls, Sommamech Trading cards?  ;)
So how do you get gold?

Thanks,

LS.

Somamech

Quote from: LSWONE on May 29, 2013, 08:11:25 PM
Can I trade those in for Zorgon plush dolls, Sommamech Trading cards?  ;)
So how do you get gold?

Thanks,

LS.

Through gut's and determination soldier ;) LOL

Kidding mate :D

It would be cool though if we could make enough cash to hook people up with the SG Serie's or something like that for fun!

For what it's worth web based gold seem's worth more than a Flag :D




Sgt.Rocknroll

Quote from: zorgon on May 28, 2013, 10:05:08 PM

I don't think China has any interest in world domination :D

Really? ???

Then you don't know anything about the Commies ::)
Non nobis, Domine, non nobis, sed nomini Tuo da gloriam