Some interesting reading...

[simon_alex0327]

Found this link if anyone is interested....
http://www.exopolitics.org.uk/option,com_docman/task,doc_download/gid,71/Itemid,161/

[Amaterasu]

Though I surely trust You, I get a twinge clicking a link that says, basically, "read this!," with no indication of content...  Can You give a clue for Us visceral reactors?

[thorfourwinds]

Documented Evidence:
Moongate exposes the greatest cover-up ever perpetrated upon the American
people. The author compiled evidence from unclassified sources including
official government publications, NASA photographs and movies, news
articles, and books by authorities in various fields.

Moongate is written for the layman and scientist alike, with mathematical calculations included in the
appendices. It contains many color photographs and footnoted references.

Incredible Findings:
• NASA's True Link to Military Space Operations
• Secret Weapons Developed Under the Cover of the Civilian Space Program
• Suppressed Gravity Research Discoveries
• The Real U.S.-Russian Space Race
• Secret Discoveries that Put Apollo Astronauts on the Moon
• The Moon's True Nature and History
• The Great Energy Cover-Up

About the Author:
William L. Brian II is an engineer who has worked in a writing and editing
capacity in private industry. He received B.S. and M.S. degrees in Nuclear
Engineering from Oregon State University in 1970 and 1972, plus an M.B.A.
from Portland State University in 1976. Although not considered an expert in
the space sciences, he has the mathematical and conceptual skills to verify
the cover-up from a scientific standpoint.

LIST OF  COVER  PHOTOGRAPHS
Lower Left:
The Apollo 11 rocket, carrying astronauts
Armstrong, Aldrin, and Collins to the first Moon landing, is
shown lifting off the launch pad from Cape Kennedy on July
16, 1969. The rocket was 363 feet tall, weighed 6,400,000
pounds, and was designed to send 100,000 pounds toward
the Moon at 24,300 miles per hour. (NASA Photo)

Upper Left:
A photo of the Moon taken by Apollo 17 when
leaving lunar orbit. The left half of the Moon in this picture is
part of the near side visible from Earth, while the right half is
part of the far side which is never visible from Earth. The
dark areas are the seas, or maria. The Sea of Tranquility,
where Apollo 11 landed, is on the far left. (NASA Photo)

Upper Right:
Apollo 16 astronaut John Young is shown at the
peak of one of his jumps as he salutes the American flag on
the Ocean of Storms. The Lunar Roving Vehicle and Lunar
Module are in the background. (NASA Photo)

Lower Right:
The Apollo 16 Lunar Module ascent stage is
shown lifting off the Moon on its return to the Command
Module. The photo was taken by a color TV camera left on
the Moon. (NASA Photo 72-HC-273)


DEDICATION
This book is dedicated to the following groups and in-
dividuals:

The astronauts and other space program personnel who
knowingly or unknowingly sabotaged the cover-up.

George Adamski, Howard Menger, and others who were
courageous enough to share their experiences with the public
in the face of unwarranted ridicule.

Researchers such as Immanuel Velikovsky, Baron Karl
von Reichenbach, Wilhelm Reich, and others who have
battled the status quo of science attempting to bring their
incredible discoveries to light.

Beth Brian who typed the manuscript and contributed
extensively to the editing.

All other supporters and contributors who value the truth.

[simon_alex0327]

Sorry for the confusion. It is a download link for the pdf for the book "Moongate the suppressed findings of the US space program" by William L Brian II. Thought everyone would be interested. Haven't had time to look at it yet, but sounds intriguing!

[starwarp2000]

Sorry for the confusion. It is a download link for the pdf for the book "Moongate the suppressed findings of the US space program" by William L Brian II. Thought everyone would be interested. Haven't had time to look at it yet, but sounds intriguing!

Thanks for that, simon/alex  Something else to read 

[Elvis Hendrix]

Thanks.
Thats todays reading sorted

[Amaterasu]

Thank You so much - and to Thor as well for bringing in some of the content!

[ArMaP]

An interesting book, but with some strange things.

The most noticeable is all the talk about photo that supposedly appeared on the 1971 Encyclopedia of Discovery
and Exploration and that supposedly shows the Apollo 10 Command Module in orbit above the Moon, showing "the  Moon's atmosphere appears as a dense band of blue on the lunar horizon."

It's this photo.



The photo was identified by the publisher (I suppose, it's only referenced as David Paramor of Aldus Books) of the above mentioned encyclopaedia as being photo "69-HC-431", but when the book author asked for that photo from NASA he got several photos showing different things.

That's no surprise, as that photo is not photo "69-HC-431". I don't know what's the photo number according to that naming system, but in the Apollo naming system is photo AS09-24-3633, and it shows the Earth, as we can see on photo AS09-24-3634 and on photos from AS09-24-3653 to AS09-24-3660.

That shows either bad investigative skills or intention to deceive.

But it surely was an interesting read.

[Elvis Hendrix]

Yea that photo got my attention too.

Hey Armap your a clever guy, riddle me this..

Do you know if the biggest observatories have any mandate to keep away from the moon?

I went on an astronomy forum just for the hell of it once and asked the same question.

The result was almost instantaneous, I was branded a kook looking for UFOs....

It was as if someone was angry at me, and waiting for the question...

Elvis

[ArMaP]

Do you know if the biggest observatories have any mandate to keep away from the moon?

I went on an astronomy forum just for the hell of it once and asked the same question.

The result was almost instantaneous, I was branded a kook looking for UFOs....

It was as if someone was angry at me, and waiting for the question...

That looks like the Unmanned Spaceflight forum, where talking even in the possibility of finding extraterrestrial life results in a ban.

And no, I don't know if they have a mandate to keep away from the moon, and I don't know anyone that I can ask about that, maybe Zorgon does.

[Elvis Hendrix]

Thanks for the reply, It just seems mighty fishy to me.
All that  exquisite  hardware...
we need someone on the inside.

[LSWONE]

Yea that photo got my attention too.


Do you know if the biggest observatories have any mandate to keep away from the moon?


Elvis

This is what you will get from Palomar.


Can the moon be observed with the Hale telescope? And if so, is it possible to see the landing sites of the Apollo moon missions and possibly the equipment they left behind? They told me at the Hubble web site that the moon is too close and too bright for observation by the Hubble telescope.

    The 200-inch is rarely pointed at the moon, probably for the same reasons as the Hubble -- the full moon is some 60000 times brighter than even the brightest stars, and although you wouldn't set anything on fire (I estimate the total power collected to be about 0.02 watts), you'd certainly stress the highly-sensitive imaging systems on the scope unless you took special precautions.

    Even if we could point at the moon (perhaps putting a huge Mylar filter over the end of the tube), the blurring effect of the atmosphere ("seeing") and of the telescope itself ("diffraction limit") would limit the detail we could resolve. The smallest angles we can distinguish through the atmosphere are about 1 arcsecond (1/3600 degree), which at the distance of the moon, covers a little under 2 km -- not enough to see any signs of our prior visits. Even if we could eliminate the blurring of the atmosphere (through advanced techniques known as "adaptive optics"), there is still an inherent limitation of 0.025 arcsec for the 200-inch scope, which comes to 50 meters on the lunar surface, not quite enough to see the LEM base or rover tracks.




I know when I point my camera at the moon it all looks very bright and thus need to some filters I purchased online. Still not a good image though. I need to save some cash for a good telescope.

LSWONE.

[Elvis Hendrix]

This is what you will get from Palomar.


Can the moon be observed with the Hale telescope? And if so, is it possible to see the landing sites of the Apollo moon missions and possibly the equipment they left behind? They told me at the Hubble web site that the moon is too close and too bright for observation by the Hubble telescope.

    The 200-inch is rarely pointed at the moon, probably for the same reasons as the Hubble -- the full moon is some 60000 times brighter than even the brightest stars, and although you wouldn't set anything on fire (I estimate the total power collected to be about 0.02 watts), you'd certainly stress the highly-sensitive imaging systems on the scope unless you took special precautions.

    Even if we could point at the moon (perhaps putting a huge Mylar filter over the end of the tube), the blurring effect of the atmosphere ("seeing") and of the telescope itself ("diffraction limit") would limit the detail we could resolve. The smallest angles we can distinguish through the atmosphere are about 1 arcsecond (1/3600 degree), which at the distance of the moon, covers a little under 2 km -- not enough to see any signs of our prior visits. Even if we could eliminate the blurring of the atmosphere (through advanced techniques known as "adaptive optics"), there is still an inherent limitation of 0.025 arcsec for the 200-inch scope, which comes to 50 meters on the lunar surface, not quite enough to see the LEM base or rover tracks.




I know when I point my camera at the moon it all looks very bright and thus need to some filters I purchased online. Still not a good image though. I need to save some cash for a good telescope.

LSWONE.

Cheers,
Wow they seem to have telescopes for everything.

But they don't seem to have one for looking at the moon.

Elvis.

[zorgon]

At 08:01 PM 12/5/2006, you wrote:
> Dear Mr Kardel
>
> I have been wondering for some time why there are no images of the Moon from Mount Palomar. I have searched the web and have not found any. I may have missed them though.
>
> Could you possibly let me know if there are such images and where I might find them?
>
> Thank you
> Ron Schmidt
> Las Vegas NV

From:
Scott Kardel <wsk@astro.caltech.edu>
Date:
12/6/2006 9:34 AM

Hi Ron,

I haven't seen any images of the Moon from Palomar either.  It is possible that some were taken long ago, but astronomers would rather explore the Moon with spacecraft and use the big telescopes for observing much, much fainter objects.

Clear skies,

- Scott

W. Scott Kardel
Public Affairs Coordinator, Palomar Observatory
Telephone: (760) 742-2111
E-mail: wsk@astro.caltech.edu
WWW:www.palomar-observatory.org

[zorgon]

Wow they seem to have telescopes for everything.
But they don't seem to have one for looking at the moon.

Mike Deegan London UK

10 inch telescope


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