PROOF That Society is doomed

[zorgon]

Elvis, most of YOUR expressed thoughts are pure drivel! We have had a way of life in this country since its founding, and that "way of Life" is, we have been free do do pretty much as we please, within the bounds of established laws of the people.

Way of life?  Seems to me there is no particular pattern...  We had the MaCarthy era where anything you said and did made you a communist... we had our own Tiamin Square at Kent State, We locked up Japanese American citizens and confiscated their property just because those they LEFT decided to blow up a few ships (and got nuked for it)  Now we have lived to see the Pope resign in the face of sex scandles in the church. Today we have the proof that the NSA/Gov is truly spying on us as we have been saying for years...

So what 'way of life' exactly do we have?

Just asking

It is very easy to spout off such stuff, but there is no basis for it, except in the minds of some - usually in the minds of the far leaning left people.

Well the far right leaning people funded Hitler into power and control all the oil and money

People in the USA do not get "nailed" with the things you say, as everyone is absolutely free to make their own choices in such matters. Each man is as each man does.

Freedom in the USA is merely an illusion.... my parents had more freedom during the NAZI's than we do now...  At least NAZIs didn't grope and humiliate German citizens like TSA does

FWIW, I am not "anti-gay". But what I do not like is to have "abnormal" homosexual men and homosexual women being the basis for state and federal laws being passed that infringe upon the people's rights as a free normal Americans.

Sound pretty anti gay to me...  Biology alone will prove that it is natural   It is something that we were taught in high school in Canada but has since been suppressed. But I won't get into that right now

Homosexuality is very obvious abnormal state for a man or woman, as their basic design provides for copulation together, as a man and a woman, and not with same sexes.

Then explain why your god made homosexual animals

Homosexuals do need help, but, new federal laws will not deliver the help needed to correct the problems.

Now THAT is certainly anti gay   You cannot 'help' genetic makeup... your genes are determined at birth. To say they need help is really dumb

As I said prior, if there are only homosexuals around, then society/man will be gone in less than 100 years. No kids, no society, no man!!

Which is why the study on ducks proved that nature turns ducks gay when the population increases beyond what the pond can hold. So perhaps we are seeing more gays because human population is rising   Nature always takes care of its own... your god programmed that

I am fairly certain that as with other birth abnormalities, over time, early birth detection of homosexual condition/causes can also be established, so that appropriate absolute corrections can be consummated, while in the infant stage.

Wow seriously?  "Ach ja  Ve can creat ze superrace!"  good luck with that

[Amaterasu]

... and hu-mons? 

Could very well be...  Has there been a study of the prevalence of gays in city environments vs those in rural settings?  As in percentages?

[Amaterasu]

FWIW, I am not "anti-gay". But what I do not like is to have "abnormal" homosexual men and homosexual women being the basis for state and federal laws being passed that infringe upon the people's rights as a free normal Americans.

"ABNORMAL?"  Um... Homosexuality (& bi-sexuality) have been a part of the Human story in all history.  What's "abnormal" about it?  If it was something NEW, I might agree, but it is one part of what is normal that any Human might be.

[Gigas]

I'm seein the gender compatibility issue as an epic reverse specie specific natural selection event curbing out of control reproduction rates. Civilizations go through a natural multiplier time period reaching unsustainable numbers where by it goes stagnant by forming same gender companionship.

As sickening as this is to me, it maybe how natural selection operates reducing populations.

[rdunk]

Zorgon said, Biology alone will prove that it is natural   It is something that we were taught in high school in Canada but has since been suppressed. But I won't get into that right now

Then explain why your god made homosexual animals

You cannot 'help' genetic makeup... your genes are determined at birth. To say they need help is really dumb


Nope, homosexuality is not by "natural" design at all! As far as man is concerned, there is no genetic link yet found to indicate a genetic problem, for humans, relative to homosexuality. So, did they teach you in Canadian high school that homosexuality is genetic, by error? Saying it is may be a "feel-good diagnosis", but, if you can find an accepted absolute determination of "genetic proof" for it, please provide us with that information!!   

I don't speak "for God", but I do often repeat what he has said (what little I know). If you really want to know the answer to that question regarding "homosexual animals", and even homosexual man, I suggest that you ask God yourself, if you "earnestly" want an answer!!  His answer to most everything is in His Word, which is to be spiritually discerned, for true understanding - ie, just the "reading" of His Word (like we do with most books), may not result in its revelation. 

[sky otter]

well guys..

here's my  view

on the end of the world last dec and on this

what ever your preferrence or opinion
one thing that i know for sure is

before the new anything can be built the old must be destroyed

the minds of those to continue  must be changed
and the feelings/judgement  towards others altered to hold compassion and acceptance

the minds/essences stuck in the hate and judgement get another ride on the destruction train

doesn't matter which judgement you are making... you just bought another  ticket



but hey.. what do i know 

[ArMaP]

before the new anything can be built the old must be destroyed

You can make upgrades.

[zorgon]

Has there been a study of the prevalence of gays in city environments vs those in rural settings?  As in percentages?

most likely but I doubt they will be easy to find in this politically correct environment. But I will look

Found a Wiki article  explaining why it is difficult to do such a study in humans

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_sexual_orientation

Makes sense...

[sky otter]

You can make upgrades.

what if that is what the gays are..upgrades?..hummmmmmmmmmmm

[zorgon]

Man XY Woman XX  there are also additional possibilities XYY XXX XXY  I will dig up the data if it hasn't been wiped of the net

I don't speak "for God", but I do often repeat what he has said (what little I know).

You cannot repeat what god has said... you can only repeat what MAN has written that god supposedly has said

If you really want to know the answer to that question regarding "homosexual animals", and even homosexual man, I suggest that you ask God yourself, if you "earnestly" want an answer!!

This type of cop out answer was PRECISELY what made me realize religion was bunk. Worse than NASA  "Never A Straight Answer"

His answer to most everything is in His Word, which is to be spiritually discerned, for true understanding - ie, just the "reading" of His Word (like we do with most books), may not result in its revelation.

Where is this word written by god himself? I have not been able to find such a book. All I see is MANY books that CLAIM to be the word of one of many gods interpreted by man... and thumped upon by those trying to convince me that THEIR god is the right version.  Sorry that doesn't work for me..

Better idea, since you can so easily quote his word... YOU show me in your God's word where He answers the question about homosexual animals...

Fair enough?  No more cop outs

[zorgon]

As sickening as this is to me, it maybe how natural selection operates reducing populations.

My point exactly  

[rdunk]

Better idea, since you can so easily quote his word... YOU show me in your God's word where He answers the question about homosexual animals...

Fair enough?  No more cop outs

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Z, I haven't the slightest interest in how animals do what they do, relative to their copulation/reproduction. Nor do I for the fowl, reptiles, spiders, and insects. So, I'll not be answering that question for you.

Making any comments on the homosexual subject is like beating on a dead horse anyway. And with no actual descendents from such relationships, that is pretty much what it is - like a dead horse in the end.

I in no way intend any disrespect for anyone who reads my comments here. The facts are facts, and putting any type of "let's make it (homosexuality) look every day common and natural" is absolutely a wrong thing to do, for the "familial continuation" of the peoples of this world. As mentioned earlier, a more important step would be to find the cause  of the problem, and fix them - maybe an absolute prevention/cure for Aids could be found too!!


                                                         

[The Matrix Traveller]

No disrespect, but written in the "Roman book" referred to as the bible it is written... 

"Judge NOT that Ye be NOT Judged."

Hmmmmmmm.

I thought this included church goers as well... or are they exempt ?   

[rdunk]

The Book of Law judges everyone!

Matrix, maybe you misunderstand what I said - I was merely trying to state the facts of the physical matter, in general. I don't believe that I was judging anyone, except if the facts are deemed judgmental of/by whosoever.

And I know of nothing even referred to as a "roman book" by anyone but you! However, I do suspect that your continuing references  to the Bible in that way, is intended total disrespect. That is one reasion I never understand your continuing to often quote scripture from the Bible??   

[The Matrix Traveller]

And I know of nothing even referred to as a "roman book" by anyone but you! However,

I guess "Ignorance" is bliss, to some...   

But a little research may relieve that situation though..