PROOF That Society is doomed

[rdunk]

Obviously, ignorance is bliss for some! Absolutely nothing said will take me down this typical gay debunker's "must be you too" road. I don't fall for such crap as is this!

So yes LE and Elvis, you do need to "move on", as there is nothing in this regard for you here, in the direction you are headed!! 

As regards to the Catholic Church, they have had a significant problem for a long time, both spiritually and in the flesh. But then, God will be the judge of that too!!

Nope, as a Christian I have no part nor relationship with the "Catholic Church". The Protestant Church has no in-betweens (Priests, Bishops, Cardinals, and a few statues) for approaching God and talking with Him, as does the Catholic Church. Here is one scripture that says directly what we can do in this regard:

Hebrews 10

9 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus

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[zorgon]

But, any theologan worth their salt will tell you gay sex has been practiced by the numerous religions of the world for thousands of years.

This is quite true...  In our medieval group we created a plausible timeline History.  That History place us on an Island off the coast of Wales near Tenby called Inys Pyr  or today Caldy Island...

Well our Monk plays a Benedictine Monk as persona... No here is an interesting set of coincidences....

First he is Jewish, and Gay (and very open about it)  So here he plays a Benedictine <onk.  When we creates our History we found a time frame where that island was not used (its a long story with very interesting coincidences that freaked us out LOL ) but for now there was a Monastary on the island...

Just so happened it was a Cistercian/ Benedictine Order and the monks re all gay. The order has been on that island for hundreds of years and there is a great ghost store in Henry VII's time   But they are a gay order selling perfume and chocolate on the internet

There is also this article;

Some Benedictine Monks [still!] recruiting Gay men


Well they DO say that Truth is stranger than fiction...

[ArMaP]

Quite frankly, I have ZERO interest in homosexuals and the homosexual subject. As I have presented in my comments in this thread, my interests are only relative to the real negative impacts of it upon changing the laws and morals of our land, and its very negative impacts upon the people of the world in general.

I think you are looking at it from the wrong direction; the law will not change the morals, the morals are the reason for the change in the law.

Morals, like all other things related to human nature, appear first, and sometimes we do not even notice that we are changing or have already changed, but our actions will reflect that.

As for negative impact, I work near the register office (or whatever that thing is called in English, the office where people go to get a civil marriage), and one or two days after they changed the law there was a gay marriage there. It didn't affect me at all.

Some months later, a woman decided that the best way to end her marriage was with a shotgun, and she did it in exactly the same place where that gay marriage had taken place. That affected me.

[zorgon]

Paedophile Priest 'Exposes Satanic Vatican Rent-Boy Sex Ring' 

The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire Version 2.0

As I recall, from watching that Penthouse documentary Caligula...

It was sex and debauchery that brought Rome down the first time

[The Matrix Traveller]

I have no part nor relationship with the "Catholic Church". The Protestant Church has no in-betweens (Priests, Bishops, Cardinals, and a few statues) for approaching God and talking with Him, as does the Catholic Church. Here is one scripture that says directly what we can do in this regard:

The protestant church is indirectly linked to the Roman church, via. doctrine, within/through
this "Roman book". (bible)

Even though other churches have their own versions of the bible, which was Roman
i.e. of the Roman church, these denominations can NOT agree with each others Interpretations
nor with the Roman church !

If this were NOT the case, then there would only be ONE church.

The Carpenter was reported to have said,   "If a House is divided against itself, it shall Fall."



The Roman church was originally an institution of Roman Government under Government control.

Governments have used the church as an informant institution.

In past Roman Power Structure; "the holy Roman church" as it was referred to was above the armed forces,
along side the court (Law) system.

Check out your history books regarding this !



Re. that "Roman edition" referred to as the bible....

Any bible is just  another version of that Roman Book...

The Kings James Version  of the "Roman best seller"
some refer to as the bible ?       Including other VERSIONS of that book,
are simply Different VERSIONS (Different interpretations to please different believers)

I recall in those writings, it is reported that it had been said, through the carpenter,

"Let NOT you put your faith in anyone, except the Father Only."

The Word "ONLY"..... meaning singular.
In this case The Father and NOT any other including the "Roman book", called the bible today.

Yet the congregation follow after doctrine, laid down by church hierarchy
who are of the primate family !

Nether did that Carpenter ever make any mention at all, that such a book called the bible
or King James VERSION of the "Roman Book" (bible) would be published.

Nor did that Carpenter ever say to put your trust in the Roman book, referred to as the bible today.   

It is ONLY the human Primate who demands, that one has to trust this book believing falsely that it is
the word of god from the beginning of the all before the earth was ever thought of.

[The Matrix Traveller]

The Only Ones who want to destroy the Earth, are the human species !

It is only the "human species" who want to be doomed !

WHY ?

[ArMaP]

The Only Ones who want to destroy the Earth, are the human species !

As far as you know.

[The Matrix Traveller]

As far as you know.

Who else then, and why ?

But please provide proof... 

[starwarp2000]

What started out as a bit of 'light hearted' frivolity by Zorgs, has now degenerated into a Religious minefield!
Time to discuss the original OP and 'agree' to 'disagree' on your religious convictions.

How the discussion of Mobile Phone useage turned to discussion of whether 'X' Brand of religion is better, is beyond me.
I keep my religious views to myself (Mostly), tolerate other views, and never rundown anybody else's views.
Just a friendly tip 

[ArMaP]

Who else then, and why ?

But please provide proof... 

I didn't say that I know of anyone/anything wanting to do that, I just pointed (using your post as an example) that our opinions are limited by what we know.

[Amaterasu]

Zorgon said, Biology alone will prove that it is natural   It is something that we were taught in high school in Canada but has since been suppressed. But I won't get into that right now

Then explain why your god made homosexual animals

You cannot 'help' genetic makeup... your genes are determined at birth. To say they need help is really dumb


Nope, homosexuality is not by "natural" design at all! As far as man is concerned, there is no genetic link yet found to indicate a genetic problem, for humans, relative to homosexuality. So, did they teach you in Canadian high school that homosexuality is genetic, by error? Saying it is may be a "feel-good diagnosis", but, if you can find an accepted absolute determination of "genetic proof" for it, please provide us with that information!!   

I don't speak "for God", but I do often repeat what he has said (what little I know). If you really want to know the answer to that question regarding "homosexual animals", and even homosexual man, I suggest that you ask God yourself, if you "earnestly" want an answer!!  His answer to most everything is in His Word, which is to be spiritually discerned, for true understanding - ie, just the "reading" of His Word (like we do with most books), may not result in its revelation.

Hmmmm.  If I go to Leviticus - where the most frequent quote about homosexuality I have seen is (I think there may be one or two more mentions - God CLEARLY was preoccupied with this issue), it also tells Me I may sell My daughter into slavery...  Do You have a daughter and are You planning to sell Her if You do?

[Amaterasu]

most likely but I doubt they will be easy to find in this politically correct environment. But I will look

Found a Wiki article  explaining why it is difficult to do such a study in humans

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_sexual_orientation

Makes sense...

Thanks, z.  My bet is that there is higher prevalence in densely populated areas over rural.  But just barely.  Statistically significant, yes; huge, no.  But I guess We'll never know.

[zorgon]

Paedophile Priest 'Exposes Satanic Vatican Rent-Boy Sex Ring' 

Compliments of FacePalm

[Amaterasu]

The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire Version 2.0

As I recall, from watching that Penthouse documentary Caligula...

It was sex and debauchery that brought Rome down the first time

Actually, there is fair evidence that lead poisoning was the downfall of Rome - and it also increased the debauchery....

[zorgon]

Actually, there is fair evidence that lead poisoning was the downfall of Rome - and it also increased the debauchery....

So are you saying Rome fell because they had more lead in their pencil?