Eric Dollard Debunks Techzombie's Suppression Hoax

[Amaterasu]

Though We all might be interested...

[starwarp2000]

Yes Amy, been following that on the Energetic Forum: http://www.energeticforum.com/235854-post161.html

Something Eric doesn't need atm, more people creating politics!

[Amaterasu]

Heh.  No One NEEDS politics!  LOL!  But yeah, He needs support and encouragement.  It would be a shame if this BS took this man's work away.

Then...  THEY win.

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Oops, almost missed this one!

No time now, will see tomorrow.
Anything Dollard has to say is relevant & interesting>

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Hey All

Yes it is a sad situation. I have been following it. I told Z about it days ago. A Peggy member that has not posted in some time, 7Redorbs or Adam Bull Was a big part of the fund raiser and was trashed. He was cleared of any wrong doing I will get in contact with him and se if he cares to give us a visit.

Bless
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[Amaterasu]

I became aware of this from 7Red's tweet.  I asked if He was going to posts this or should I.  He asked Me to.  So... I did.  [smile]

[starwarp2000]

Seems to me that this repeating pattern of befriending Eric then turning on him, destroying his work and taking his equipment is a cold calculated attempt to stop him from disseminating his knowledge.
I mean, lightning doesn't strike twice, does it?
The only logical story is that somebody in the background is orchestrating this. Find him, eliminate him and Eric will be free.

[Amaterasu]

Thinking this is a CONCERTED effort.  More that just ONE person is involved in harassing Eric.  A whole concert hides behind whatever immediate melody is observable.

The "elites" DON'T want Us to have free energy.  Period.

[starwarp2000]

Latest on the Eric Dollard Saga

I have been following this epic unfold on Energetic Forum:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/14219-ray-savant-muhamed-techzombie-exposed.html#post234539

Seems like one individual, namely Ray Savant (AKA "Muhamed", AKA "Tech Zombie") has been selling Eric's "Lone Pine Writings" book on his Aetherforce website without Eric's knowledge.
He has registered numerous domains claiming to be Eric Dollard's and is using Eric's name, reputation and works to profit!
When confronted he has started a smear campaign against one of the co-creators of Energetic Forum, Aaron Murakami, and has called Eric himself, a "Meth Addict".

Please read this post that sums it up:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/14219-ray-savant-muhamed-techzombie-exposed-7.html#post236221

Others like 7Redorbs (Adam Bull) who tirelessly promoted Eric's lab and donated time and money towards this project, have been spat in the face!
Both the $100 Adam donated, and the $1,000 his girlfriend donated, have been refunded by Ray Savant.
Eric is "Unaware" of any of this.

So, it looks like Eric will leave this fiasco, The lab will continue using Eric's work for their own purposes, Ray Savant will keep selling Eric's Book and his past papers (Which have been free and in the public domain for 30 years), and the name of Eric P. Dollard will be forgotten, like some distant memory of the past.
Eric can go back to his Meth addiction and it's all hunky-dory! [I don't believe for one minute that he is a Meth user!]

So, it seems we have another Tesla scenario played out in our lifetimes. A brilliant man has been used and abused, his knowledge extracted, his intellectual property stolen, his livelihood taken away, all for the egotistical ramblings of few who know better!

I hope he doesn't disappear again! Eric, there is always a place to stay in Australia!

[Amaterasu]

Ah, geez. 

So sorry to hear how ugly it's gotten.

[starwarp2000]

Ah, geez. 

So sorry to hear how ugly it's gotten.

Yes Am, seems like when someone has an idea, there are always 100 people waiting to exploit it, to profit from it etc.
We need your paradigm more than ever 

[Fruitbat]

OK, lot of talking about conspiracyies going on here.

I don't have time to cover all the ground, my own personal projects keep me busy along with survival, so can any one briefly bring me up to speed on what eric dollard has done? Why should he be persecuted when so many others are not?

Has he finally made in duplicable form the oddly humming box, that will power my house?

IF so, the only way to protect him, is to rapidly disseminate the plans and get some stuff built, all over the world. (Which in case you guys haven't noticed, seems to the be achilles heel of the F.E. movement).

Stuff gets built, but doesn't work, or stuff gets built that seems to work, but then never gets replicated. The other side of amy's paradigm is that when people share their ideas, which is happening more and more these days, as people finally work out how the pusuit of "money" really works, then people who have no ideas of their own, need to build stuff, or at least help the people who are. There are very few people in this field who are prepared to put their money where their mouth is, and of those of us who do, it's not enough.

So how can we help Eric? well if he has given his knowledge freely, and it is known to actually be beneficial, then someone needs to collate it and make a software disc image that can be sold on ebay (for example). Selling his information on a disc, correctly attributed, for a price commensurate with the time and effort that you are saving the recipient in research, isn't morally wrong IMHO, as it GETS the information OUT to a wider audience. After all if someone is  prepared to pay for good information, they are far more likely to then go on and do some actual building. The whole point of this stuff is to get us to a point where energy and resources are not such an issue, so as we have time to evolve a bit more in our mindset as a species. You guys are living at the cutting edge of human thought right now, this idea that we share stuff "not for profit". Stepping back into the real world for a moment though, currently human nature, is to only value "that for which a monetary price has been paid". If I get my hands on a F.E. machine, and manage to duplicate it, I'd expect to find it easier to sell it for a handsome profit over manufacture, than to give it away, although of course, my buyer would likely go away with his machine expecting to manufacture it and make a huge profit... But at least such a hot potato would be out of my hands plus I'd have a useful some of money to make three more, one to use, one to give away or other wise "park elsewhere", and one to (hopefully) sell to another entrepeneur/would be millionaire, so as I get the money to make more, etc.

All I know, is that sometimes you can't give something away because the fact that it is given freely makes it valueless in most people's eyes. (After all, they wouldn't give it away if they had it, would they?) You have to offer them a "bargain".

So whilst as soon as I have my "self lifting" lifter going I'll publish the full spec etc, for the interest of the like-minded, I'll also sell exactly the same information to a different bunch of people with a completely clear conscience, because if they didn't see it "for sale", they wouldn't see it at all.

I'm sure that just because WE are sick of being ripped off and manipulated by people who use money, we want to be generous, but I can absolutely assert form experience, sometimes these days it is easier to sell someone something that they need than give it to them free of charge.

So, if you want to help Eric Dollard, someone needs to collate his work into a package, and sell it widely. IF you want to be super fair, factor in a royalty into your production costs, and get it to him. But for most of us, we can maybe knock up a batch of ten DVD's it'd take creative marketing to take much more than 5$ a piece, so the "profit" even if you keep it all, isn't really going to make a difference to Eric.

OF course, someone will take the idea and start a business out of it, with a view to making a buck, it's how capitalism works at the moment, what with the scarcity paradigm and all! Lets face it, centralised production by someone else WORKS.

Any one get any sense in that? I think I did...

FB!

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Took the words right out from under my fingers, old mate.

We can help Eric in other ways, too.
How about signing up on energetic forums & debunking these false prophets?
How about publishing every little bit of info we have on Dollard (for a small fee, FB is right for many reasons).
I have a few hundred Mb's of data from him, which i will donate freely to the project
We need to collect his video's too. Lectures, anything in the open domain....

[1Worldwatcher]

Took the words right out from under my fingers, old mate.

Have too admit FB, you have stated some very 'Confident' statements there, and I do agree about the whole debacle being somewhat of a drama/disinformation move on some peoples parts, but your words ring with truth of the matter at hand.

We can help Eric in other ways, too.
How about signing up on energetic forums & debunking these false prophets?

This would be a great idea, provided the Mods/Admins or site owner's didn't give you the boot for reading into what you were attempting with your acceptance with in their group.

And as far as the evidence at hand, current videos/Seminars and or the research has already done, there is no real 'Battle Worthy' information, the rhetoric would fly in as it has been doing for sometime now with anything associated with Dollard. In other words "They (Dollard Hater's/Dis-creditor's) would use the same old same old to carry on the defense of what they have as supposed vital inside information to continue the smearing of Dollards name."

Don't see them taking you seriously and I don't see us really doing anything but making matter's worse by this method. IMHO, but is an action none the less to get Dollard too a point of public recognition, just don't think it is the 'Best' idea for what is taking place, not at the moment anyway.

How about publishing every little bit of info we have on Dollard (for a small fee, FB is right for many reasons).

Once again, we have a collective of the thinker's with in this thread that are finding something and someone tantamount to finding a UFO in an Egyptian tomb. All the "RE"- publication of his work is mundane attempt at something that more than likely people are aware of already that even gives a Rats Arse about anything he has too offer with in this field. Though I do find it hard too believe or accept that Dollard 'Doesn't' have faithful follower's (i.e. Us here at Peggy) that are still with Dollard's prowess and intellectual understanding of such thing's as the 'Humming Box' and what he has for potentially offering the world with his understanding and abilities with in such fields of research and undeniable necessity of such sciences coming forth and bringing a new frontier to the Scientific way of thinking with in such communities.

I have a few hundred Mb's of data from him, which i will donate freely to the project
We need to collect his video's too. Lectures, anything in the open domain....

See, right here, it says it all, he has people here that not only respect him, but are interested in what he has too say and share with in the Fringe science's we here love to discuss and delegate over for the most part.

I say, if there is someone here that has contact with him, get him to Peggy, explain to him of the request of the people that give a crap about all he has too share, and then, slowly but surely, would help assist him in clearing his good name and be able to get logical and scientific debates with what he has to offer by way of our types of discussion's and litigation's.

We have had so many PRC member's that were vital here just pack up and leave, under different circumstances ranging from "He said, She said" to Health issues, And Dollard isn't getting any younger. We could discuss his research until we are blue in the face, but at the end of the day, we have only discussed without rebuttal from the man being discussed, get him here, let him know we are going to help anyway we can, and most of all, "Let him know who and what we are."

I am sure Zorgon has a Shirt Sleeve long list of folks that have taken to higher ground and just vanished in his possession, and there are some I am sure he wishes he could get back here on PRC to keep the think tank rolling from all angles of conversation, but as he says "Such is the reality of a Forum."

SO, if someone can get in touch with him that knows him or has confided in him already, "E-Mail/Text/Tweet, whatever it takes!!" too let him know there is an open seat he would fit in nicely with our group.

I hope you see my point on all of this, it makes more logical sense to clear his name by proving him right with in sciences and also by being a side by side researcher too clear his name and get the ball rolling for a full disclosure on what has been done with in his research and what "NEEDS" too be done with a a little help from people he can trust, namely Inventor's Group et al Pegasus Research Consortium/ The Living Moon.

With Great Respect,
Your Friend Always,
1Worldwatcher

[starwarp2000]

OK, lot of talking about conspiracyies going on here.

I don't have time to cover all the ground, my own personal projects keep me busy along with survival, so can any one briefly bring me up to speed on what eric dollard has done? Why should he be persecuted when so many others are not?

Eric Dollard is the only person to have duplicated Tesla's experiments! I think that is a good enough reason!
Some people kick up about that, saying bullpoop, I made a Tesla Coil!
Well the joke is on them. What you call a Tesla coil today isn't really a Tesla coil it was invented by a guy from MIT.
Yes, Tesla had Cylindrical Coils, but if you look closely in his Colorado Springs Pictures you will see a different type of coil that 'should' be called the Tesla Coil. It's what we call the Pancake coil today.
So, people make Tesla coils, produce giant sparks and say they have duplicated Tesla. Sorry to tell you folks, but you haven't!
If you ever get to read the Court records of when Tesla was fighting his radio patents against Marconi, you will see Tesla's explanations of how his systems 'really' worked and the theories behind them.
Unless you can duplicate the effects Tesla demonstrated then you haven't reproduced them!

They were:

1. A connection between Transmitter and Receiver: (The Transmitter knew when the Receiver was on).
2. A connection between Receiver and Transmitter: (Modulating the  Receiver modulated the Transmitter).
3. The ability to charge capacitors from his Radiant Energy Transmitters with NO connecting wires
4. The ability to pass this Radiant Energy through the human body and to make the body glow like a flame with no harm to the individual.
5. The ability to affect the rate of radioactive decay of elements with his Radiant Energy.

The list goes on, and on, and on.

The point I am making is that what is being done today is the path that has been manipulated for you to follow. All the work being done today has been done over and over for the last 50 - 60 years, with no result.
So it seems it is time for a paradigm change: to go back to the foundations of Electricity and to pick another path. I have been on that road for 10 years now, and the only person who has ever guided me is Eric Dollard, because he has shown results.